Homey D. Clown

What logic brought you to 5? What offseason moves and late season developments last year(spiller showing he has some serious talent... etc) gives you the impression that the team has gotten worse? Or was this a prediction of lowered expectations so that if they win more you'll be pleasantly surprised? 9 - 11 wins are very attainable if they stay healthy, 7 - 9 wins if the team endures another record setting number of players on IR, or if Fitz goes down.

Since Lil' Donte no longer sleepwalks in our secondary, anything the teams does will be an improvement. Seriously though My bet will be a mix of Scott and Moats, and possibly Byrd cheating in towards the line of scrimmage on 2 tight end formations in what some teams call a "Press Nickle"

Don't Worry, Whitner doesn't play here anymore, so we're good now.

This: http://youtu.be/kJBKyTfCjCc And yes....for that long.

Training camp starts tomorrow!!!!! http://youtu.be/0MiVjitccnE That is all......

I wouldn't be opposed to that theory, matter of fact, I'm sure it all has to do with jettisoning a player. It was clear before the season started to me anyway he was a player in decline.

Or.... Maybe, juuuust maybe the Bills cut their losses with Lee Evans because he is no longer able to play at a starting level, run any routes other than a go route, get enough separation from defenders, or make plays that would extend drives. Since he has done so much since leaving Buffalo, it couldn't possibly have been that stuff...

Add: chan Gailey will make him a pro bowler....

Agreed. If an employee was doing something illegal where you work, would it be fair to shut the whole place down? No. If your manager knew about the activities but chose to look the other way, would you expect your boss to get fired? Hell yes. Let the courts punish the guilty, and the NCAA rule on NCAA violations. The courts will bring to justice those that were guilty. Hopefully in time the victims families and of those hurt the most benefit from the courts, and not from some NCAA decision. Joe paterno would have probably gone to jail for not taking action, but that's a legal issue, and the courts to decide. Thats just how I feel about the whole thing.

I honestly think this is more true than most people think. Training camp will tell the tale, but if he doesn't grasp the offense(Vince Young), then there is little chance he makes the team. I wouldn't be sad if he doesn't.

I do see this from time to time, but what's a Prolly? Is it short for something? If so do people know that in these new-fangled forum type thingies that you can type full words, since you're more than likely not driving down the interstate, trying to get a message in before a cop notices you're texting, or that you get more than 143 characters per post? Or does Prolly in fact want a cracker? Good times.... I like these "Deep thoughts from Jack Handy" type threads, such a break from the usual "I hate the Spiller pick" "Ralph is cheap" "Fitz sucks/is great" threads...

run for cover to hide from the Baby Grand Piano rainstorm outside, the frog and locusts storms that followed. Then get a weather report for hell to see if it was snowing....

I like that he's cheap about the blackouts... More than 1 million WNY residents and they can't find 70,000 people to sit in the "Ralph" for 7 home games? In this case Ralph is Cheap, and I like it

Hating the Spiller pick at any time, hindsight or not has no merit. the old "we had holes to fill across board" logic is ridiculous at best. If the Bills didn't pick him, he'd be lighting it up somewhere else, and then the front office would be getting slammed for not taking the guy. We had a hole to fill at RB, Spiller was the best player on the board, and we filled it. No Marshawn was not filling that need, he was not even averaging 4 yards a carry at that time, and Freddie had not exploded onto the scene yet, not to mention there were no elite, impact/game changing or pro bowl caliber player on the roster at that time. So with that said, and what were are learning about Spiller as he is developing into a great pick, what reason other than Blind hatred do you have for not liking the pick? What other player picked in the top 20 would you have selected? Exactly... none. It's funny how a thread about Marshawn can spin into an "I hate the Spiller pick" conversation, if you can't like the guy now, what would it take? a Hall of fame career to finally sway you?

no doubt... Like him or not, that was a great run to watch. I loved how it looked like some of the defensive players had several shots at him and still missed.

I am interested in the unknowns about this guy, and will be watching the battle for the #2 slot closely, but I think a lot of people take Donald Jones for granted, he must have more talent than we have seen given his unfortunate ankle injuries last year. And let's not forget Marcus Easley. Just because he hasn't played a regular season game yet, he has shown some serious talent in a very limited amount of evaluation time, and it has been said by many who have seen him practice that he is by far the most athletically talented player on the field. I honestly want to keep all 3 of these guys, and hate to see the Bills lose any of the players I have mentioned. Nevermind the overachieving Roosevelt, this will be one of the toughest decisions for the coaches to make by far. My guess would be this for the players kept as WR depth: 1. Stevie Johnson 2. Donald Jones 3. David Nelson (Although I like him, his production was sketchy last year) 4. Derek Hagan 5. Marcus Easley 6. TJ graham If they went to 7, I'd add Roosevelt to that list.

I have a feeling we're getting a little ahead of ourselves with the notion they're going to pitch a ton of shutouts, but it is fine with me to see people believing the defense will be greatly improved and getting excited about it this year...

Easy schedule, VY won't even challenge for anything more than the #2 spot, the team does have some very talented receivers on the roster, There's no doubt the team has depth in many areas, more so than any time in the last 17 years by a wide margin, and lastly The patriots went to the Superbowl, haven't lost much in the offseason and have the right to be considered #1 until someone else proves otherwise. I voted for easy schedule.

Better athlete yes, better player, by what standard? Ability to run a complicated offense, and lead a team? No.

Yeah, It hasn't been all that quiet over there, I just think we're all noticing that the national media is getting tired of paying attention to their "look at us" coach and all the wind he blows, and the fact that they really haven't made any noteworthy moves.

He better not mess this up!

+1 -- It was just a matter of time, but I really was happy to see him go because he is an average back at best. I just wish we would have been feeding Fred the rock all this time instead.

What facts do you base this assumption on? have you done a financial study on the revenue that needs to be made on local luxury suite sales, along with season ticket, and single seat sales, coupled with local advertising above the NFL licensing, revenue sharing and television contract profit disbursement income, minus stadium operating costs? Or did you just read all the propaganda written and force fed to fans around here and the local media fueled by Russ Brandon? Last time I checked, the team really doesn't have a problem filling seats beyond what most other teams would consider capacity, and that they were ranked somewhere in the middle for profits, considering the team has been dreadful to watch the last decade, give or take a game here and there. I am all for expanding the fan base, it just makes good sense, but there is no real financial reason the team would ever need to be moved, other than to coerce another city into building a big new shiny vulgar stadium. I have been to Dallas' new stadium, and while it's nice to look at, I could honestly give 2 ***** about anything more than my view of the game. If you need pretty concourses, overpriced shops, and restaurants, then that place is for you. If you want a great talegating experience, excellent seating in a neat part of the southern tier, then I'd take the pile of concrete in Orchard park every time. I go to watch a football game, and the Ralph does that quite nicely... now if I could just take a piss without missing a third of the game, then I'd be in heaven.

sweet link... I didn't know they had that up on NFL.com yet.

I agree with the team's decision 100%. If the area wants to keep the team, and the product is good, they won't even have a problem with this.