BringBackFergy

I’ve seen better manners at our neighborhood butcher shop. At least the butcher talks to/about the meat and doesn’t just grade it. Pitiful what we have become as fans.

Your posts are well thought out and persuasive. Still, the combine and the draft are nothing more than a talent show to assess and bid on the best physical specimens who can "get the work done that needs to get done" for a bunch of stuffy guys in suits. Money shouldn't even factor into the equation...it's a red heron.

Game? Game? This is no longer a game played by men who smoke and drink beer on the bench. This is a business pure and simple. So when you see the limos, the red carpet, the dress suits and tie clips/cuff links, just hearken back to this thread and re-read what has been said. Cheer for one man's bench press and vertical jump over another man's. Watch their combine performances...."dance for me #5...dance!!". It's about as subhuman of an event as one can imagine.

Is it so difficult to understand: If you scream at the tv that a certain young man doesn't have the physical tools to perform at the NFL level...or we shouldn't pick this guy over that guy, you are perpetuating what most of us have read about since third grade. Don't judge based on physical traits. Don't create an arena of meat trading.

I respect you as an individual human being with an individual thought process, intelligence, dedication. But while you sit back, drink bottled water, snack on unsalted pecans shouting at the tv screen "We don't want him because he's too short!!" or "Pick that guy, his arm is really strong"...I'll read a book about how our ancestors did the same thing over 100 years ago and question whether we truly have advanced in our treatment of individuals. Do we judge them by looks/physical attributes or what they contribute to our society?

What's the price tag for a human brain? What's the price tag for walking around with a walker at the age of 55? I think I made my point. While GM's and coaches huddle in a nice clean room trying to project which guy will last the longest, the rest of us try to argue why one player (say Tyrod) isn't worth a 2nd round pick but is definitely worth a 3rd round pick. When's the last time someone judged you based on your value as an abstract pick? I feel sorry for a guy like Tyrod. Used and sent on his way. Another reason why the combine is nothing more than a disgraceful exhibition of Choice, Prime or bottom shelf meat.

Your comparison is faulty. We don't look at potential employees teeth or ask them to run a 40 down the hallway toward the break room. We judge them based on their minds. The NFL combine and draft is a glorified cattle stockyard which minimizes what these men (and hopefully women in a few years) bring to the table as individuals. I'd wager $100 to say that 95% of the current NFL players would play for free if the owners likewise took a huge paycut. They inherently love the game, the money only perpetuates the idea that these men are treated as chattel to trade, sell, buy and throw on the fire pit when done.

I'm glad you brought this up. All we ever hear about is bloodlines and genetics. How many times have we heard an announcer say "Now here's a guy that plays a lot like Luke Kuechly"....that, in an of itself, is a slap in the face of each player's own individualized style as a player. If these men want to play the game for bragging rights, I'm ok with it, but to pay even one lousy nickel, you are perpetuating the idea of in dentured servitude which we have worked tirelessly to eradicate for well over 45 years.

So just because they get a check, we are excused as a society from judging these young men for their muscle tone and ability to jump, rather than their minds?

#property #assets #chattel

Signed up for what? These young men are treated like chattel from Little Loop all the way through the combine. Fathers of players sit in a smokey room at a tavern and pick kids from the district. They have them over to their houses to "play football" but what they're really doing is scoping out speed, strength and agility under the guise of "fun and games". Little kids are "selected" based on their athleticism and are then carted from town to town so the coach can showcase what fine athletes he has found in his own district. You telling me little John or Saquon have even the slightest notion they are being put through a mini combine at the age of 9? They have no clue. Meanwhile, Coach Peterson (with his tight Bike shorts and whistle) starts making calls basically saying "I HAVE this kid that I FOUND and he'd be perfect for your needs". Then the kid gets the same treatment through high school, college and on to the gold standard of "property transfer"...the NFL. It's sickening when you think about it.

While all y'all are salivating over who we'll "get" or who Beane will "select", all you're really doing is perpetuating the idea that we can judge, bargain shop and compare young men based on physical traits like hips, arms, chest, jumping ability, speed and agility. It's a meat market mentality and now we all sit in front of the screen and watch a Hollywood atmosphere (cameras, red carpets, interviews, fancy clothes) as young men (black, white, Fiji islands and latinos) get "selected" by "the man". I don't put Beane or Pegula in this category...they get a pass. But guys like Dorsey, Bellichick, Gettleman, Jerry Jones and coaches like Pete Carroll, Andy Reid and Mike Tomlin are choosing men who will be forced into service for a team or city for whom they may not wish to work. Next thing you know, they'll be checking the players teeth, or making them carry loads of bricks on their backs with some goofy reason like "we need to check the teeth because it helps us understand their hygiene practices" or "carrying bricks on their back is a sign of their ability to carry a team when they are down in the 4th quarter". I feel bad for these young men. They don't understand the symbolic nature of what they have gone through. The first thing that happens when they get "selected" is they put on a team hat....talk about branding. It's ridiculous. I probably won't even watch and I would suggest if you have even a rudimentary understanding of "human rights" you would do the same. Peace out!

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Beane’s “I don’t know” answer was not in response to whether we are trading up, but rather, “How do you pronounce this reporter’s last name”. Honest mistake.

Wtf?? This board was fun for awhile. Going downhill fast.

Anyone have any good recipes for crab dip?

Welll, maybe they’re should be one or too pinned threads two avoid duplicate threads on absolute nonsensical hot takes for the first round pick(s). In the “olden” days our posts would be consolidated. Now their are posts for every thought that pops into a person’s noggin (Josh Rosen at 5? Josh Rosen at 12? Mayfield has a cramp...draftable? Sell me on Josh Allen. Can we get Darnold for a cup o’ sugar and a new set of tires?) So yeah...enjoy the pick. Think about it. Then come up with a really interesting take, and include it in an existing thread regarding that player. Go Bills!!

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Because I was always taught “when in doubt...don’t”. Meaning: If none of these guys are a “lock” then build your base. Win the war...rather than the battle.

Nahhh. Sucker’s bet.

Yeah. That worked out well. Why? I am thankful for your contributions to the board and look forward to more of your profound contributions.

Ya know what? !@#$ the New York Football Giants. We’re staying at 12. That’s the smart move.