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Week 6 Postgame Thread KC at Bills
appoo replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
would again like to repeast that the Bills were playing 5-6 man fronts, and the Backers rarely came up until well after the Ball carrier got the ball...they were almost always playing pass out of Shotgun. They were perfectly happy allowing CEH getting 5-6 yards a pop. You saw what happened in the 4th when the Bills D decided to play run. -
Week 6 Postgame Thread KC at Bills
appoo replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I have more questions for Daboll than anyone else, honestly. You can't just give up on your QB after a sucks for a few drives. I mean once you got the TD by runningm you, gotta see what Allen had left. Yet when they get the ball back down 13 - 10, they went back to run/safe short throws. And punted. Same in the 3rd. You can't do that with someone like Allen. -
Week 6 Postgame Thread KC at Bills
appoo replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
The Chiefs literally just did it to the Bills. -
Week 6 Postgame Thread KC at Bills
appoo replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Honestly I thought Daboll gave up on Allen too soon. He was bad in the 1st Q, but he should have gotten back to the spread offense in the 2nd and 3rd. He didn't go back to it until the emergency TD drive that Allen spearheaded. -
Week 6 Postgame Thread KC at Bills
appoo replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Yup. If you're gonna play bend but don't break. and intentionally give up the run, then you better get points when you have the rock. I mean Mahomes is the best QB alive. If you give him opportunities, he'll kill you with the big play, so I don't neccesarily mind the game plan on D. It actually worked to a certain degree. Afterall the Bills were THIS close to having the ball, down 6, in Chiefs territtory, with just about 5 left. -
Week 6 Postgame Thread KC at Bills
appoo replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Bills D played 6-7 in the Box. They wanted the Chiefs running, to avoid the big play. They hoped to get 3rd and long stops. The last part is where the D failed. -
Week 6 Postgame Thread KC at Bills
appoo replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Bills only had the ball 4 times in the 2nd half. 1st ended with a Cole Beasley drop. 2nd ended with Moss getting stone walled on 3rd and 1, 3rd was the TD, 4th was the INT at the end of the game. That's really not on Allen. When they gave him the opportunity to sling it in the 2nd, he showed well. -
Week 6 Postgame Thread KC at Bills
appoo replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Allen played well in that 2nd half, so I'll have that as my primary take away. 3rd down D was atrocious, but on Mahomes big 3rd and 12, there was a BLATANT OPI on Kelce, where he quite literally screened the defender off the WR, that got him open. -
Gameday Thread Week 6 2nd Half Bills vs Chiefs
appoo replied to Chandler#81's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
That was BLATANT EFFING PI on that 3rd and long. Edmunds was literally screened by Kelce 15 yards downfield to get that WR open -
Pulling guards don't have DLineman assignments. Except maybe on screens? Pulling guards LEAD through the hole, not make the hole. He wanted to push Edmunds out or to the right of the hole, clearing a straight path for Henry. Instead Edmunds forces the play back towards traffic. Not sure what else you could have expected out of him. He's got 300 pounds of human being, flying at considerable speed and strength, that he HAS to take on. I mean his literal job is take that guard on, and stand him up in the hole.
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My bad! Should have actually realized that based on earlier conversation
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That I disagree with. I'm fairly happy with LB + DT play. Unhappy with DE play, REALLY unhappy with backup corner play (can't emphasize enough how much we need Tre and Levi back - at least they have the basic athletecism to hang with good NFL WRs. About all you can do with Normal right now is make him a boundary corner) By Edmunds? His only real job there is to fill the gap and force the RB away from it. That play was CLEARLY designed to go right of center, led by the pulling guard. Edmunds got there first, and basically broke that play up. That's a successful play by Tremaine. Klein overplayed.
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right gap assignment, scrape backer. Thought even if Klein correctly scrapped, I have my doubts in his ability to stop someone like Henry for no gain. Sometimes you just gotta respect talent
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That was the center who got to Edmunds in this play, and that's just something Edmunds has to win in this defense (I mean he's faster so that's a match up you like if you're McDermot/Frazier), but they're not going to be happy with Quenton Jefferson for the reason you point out. He took the path of least resistance, in such a manner that it gave him no shot at getting to the RB, but also easily freed up the RG to ALMOST reach Edmunds in the 2nd level as well. He needs to go under the guard, take the hit, rather then slide in behind, and basically out of the play.
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Btw the 2nd play in that clip is a reflection of why play action is such a weapon. Edmunds didn't trust that was going to be a run until he saw the RB with the ball, rather he was probably thinking play action pass, and by then Lewan was already on him. And if Edmunds doesn't shed Lewan, that's probably a 10-15 yard run, even more if he makes Poyer miss
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In that first play, you immediately see Poyer fly to spot, and Edmunds doesn't even take a scrape step, meaning he's not looking for the last defenders hip, as a target. So that's gap assignment for Edmunds, and contain responsibility for the safety. He deserves credit here for avoiding the block and making the play with force, but you give just as much credit to the scheme in this instance. It's why you play it. Edmunds isn't wasting time trying to figure out which gap to fill. Not a great way to describe a corner back
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We seem to run a lot of gap assignment on defense. At least that's my thoughts when I'm watching the D. It's not a defense where backers are necessarily reading the olineman and RB. They diagnose run, they diagnose a side, and they fill a gap, trusting the DTs to fill gaps as well, and for the DEs and corners to contain. If you're watching Edmunds in the wrong gap, it might be that's actually an assignment thing. This actually might be in response to the Rams gashing the Bills D. The Rams I think use a lot of zone blocking scheme, and if you have linebackers, who read, react, fill - it's easy to open up cut backs in the middle for a RB to find. A way to counter that is with gap assignment football. The Raiders also use such a zone blocking system with Jacobs, who's a one cut and go player, and they held Jacobs to 3.2 YPC, on 48 yards. The Titans are also a heavy Zone blocking team, and again the Bills stifled the run. I don't have the film to breakdown, but my first guess is after the Rams game, the adjustment was to goto a intentional gap assignment defense - I mean I saw Tremaine a few times go straight into a gap on the snap, after seeing run.
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I mean the Bills held Henry well in Check, and basically shut off the middle for running. Think that would have to do with Edmunds? I mean he's among the last of our problems He's not
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At this point, I'd just settle for DEs who can set an edge and know how to keep contain. Getting back Milano, Tre and Levi Wallace goes a long way in helping this defense get better on down and distance. Especially with the Chiefs. containment is going to important with a mobile QB and a dangerous RB who move really quickly to broken containment
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Is it time to admit Ryan Tannehill is pretty good?
appoo replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
He's a better version of Trent Dilfer. Which is to say he's excellent in what he does (play action football, accurate when clean, where he can show off a strong, accurate arm, plus athlete so a threat to run), and is now smart enough to know what situations to avoid. You wouldn't ask him to carry the offense like they did in Miami, but you give him a pretty good OLine and strong running game, he can get you a SB. -
Postgame Thread: Bills at Titans
appoo replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Clowney was basically himself - super quick off the line, probably won a few battles in that he pressured and bothered Allen. He got 2 batted balls, one on Allen, and another when #5 threw it right at him. -
Postgame Thread: Bills at Titans
appoo replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
They are acting like the victims and it's super irritating. Very much reminding me of the Patriots acting like the victims after getting caught cheating -
Postgame Thread: Bills at Titans
appoo replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Fair -
Postgame Thread: Bills at Titans
appoo replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
if there is a person to criticize here, it's Brandon Beane. The depth on D is clearly not good enough, and he needs to assess his DEs better. You can't wait until week 5 until you find out that you're DEs are done.