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Any takes on why Prince Tega is falling this far? I thought it was surprising he fell out of the third round, and he's still there in the 6th...

So correct me if I'm wrong, but most of the time we saw empty backfields, there was still 11 personnel on the field. We'd just split a RB and TE out wide as well. Put them in interesting orders, though, like putting the TE on one side (or a TE and RB on one side) and everyone else on the other, forcing a CB over to cover the TE, would be interesting. Especially since they'd be more likely to be in their base defense or nickel defense then in a dime formation. Still, you could end up with the same situation you talk about here.

You want to be the one to tell JuJu that he's average at best? How about Tyreek Hill, drafted 166th overall? Stefon Diggs, #146? Davante Adams (#53)? John Brown (#91)? Keenan Allen (#76)? T.Y. Hilton (#92)? Antonio Brown (#192)? AB may have gone insane this past year, but he was one of the best to play the position. WR has become the one position where you can find great players all the way through the draft as long as you know what you're looking for. There are so many different college WRs out there that can each do at least one thing REALLY well. If that WRs skill set matches up with what you want them to do, you can have a star that was drafted late. Now let's look at the Chiefs WRs: We have Tyreek Hill drafted in the 5th round, Demarcus Robinson in the 4th, and Mecole Hardman was #56 overall. Sammy Watkins was their 4th WR, and he was drafted in the top 10. If you're arguing that we should replicate what the Chiefs have done, you'd be rooting for us to draft those "Great Value brand weapons."

This is very different. Julio Jones was a better prospect than Lamb. More importantly, the OTHER draft prospects are incredibly different. We have probably THE deepest WR class there has ever been coming up this year. Even if you don't get the top two, you're still probably going to get high impact starters throughout the first two to three rounds of the draft. In Julio's draft class? Not so much. There was him and A.J. Green, then...no one. The next WR off the board? Jonathon Baldwin went to the Chiefs at 26. Titus Young was the fourth WR off the board to the Lions at 44. Other than Torrey Smith and Randall Cobb who went in the late 2nd round, and who were never great, but more role players, there's not a single other good WR in the draft other than those top 2. If you did not get one of the top 2 WRs, you essentially didn't get a WR at all in that draft. Now, if you look at that and still think "Hmm, we should STILL pull a Falcons and make a desperation trade that we hope will work out in order to get one of the top two WR prospects of the class, when there are PLENTY of slightly lesser prospects" then there's really no hope for you as a scout, and I'm glad you're not part of the Bills' organization. Keep in mind that it's not "top two WRs," but "top two WR prospects." There's a definite difference between the two that a lot of people forget.

Let's be honest, it can't NOT be this play

I'd really like a poll in this thread, in order to see how concerned people are in one glance. Can you make one for us OP?

*Facepalm* I just remembered that that is correct, the Bills haven't gotten to 10 wins in a season since 1999...

The NFL REALLY needs to stop putting the Giants in prime time slots. I get that NYC is a big market, but they make for an absolutely s*** product on the field. The two Steelers games, the two Giants games, the Redskins game, and the Pats/Jets games are all going to be horrible. The rest...could actually be pretty darn entertaining.

Honestly, despite Mayfield looking like the best rookie QB last year, at this point I'm putting Mayfield at 4th in the 2nd year QB rankings. Darnold, Allen, and Lamar Jackson all seem like better players right now. I just can't help but feel like those three put a lot more work in to improve in the offseason, while Mayfield is still at where he was last year.

Thanks Virgil!

Interception!!!

How does Ducasse still have a job?

The effort to get onto the ball there. He whiffed on picking it up, ran past it, then kinda just stood and looked at it afterwards instead of just diving on the ball. It would have been 4th down, but we would have punted it, forced them back inside their own 20, instead they got the ball at midfield

Oh god, Barkley, that was pathetic...

I'm really amused. We've completely stuffed the Colts run game, so when they just made a 4 yard run on 2nd and 10, the Colts team feed got all excited and was like "He found a seam! He's had our two best runs of the night so far, now!" I'm just sitting there like "calm down, Sassy Pants, it was a 4 yard run."

Didn't someone mention that they were disappointed by Singletary's showing so far? After this drive, I'm not...

Our defense is fun to watch...

Wait, all I have is the Colts feed, but I swear I just heard them say something about an injury to Josh Allen. Did I hear right? Is Allen injured?

I'm wondering if the run D is looking so good because they don't think Brissett can hurt them, and so are keying in on the run, or if it's actually just so good?

As weird as it sounds, I can't help but feel like despite the end of that drive, it was still a win for us. We moved the ball down the field with some quick rhythm passing, Josh showing that he can throw underneath, taking what he's given. Not the worst start ever. And if this was a real game, and we could keep doing that, we're going to wear the Colts D out, gash them later on in the game.

I have trouble with Matt Ryan being just mediocre, and Eli and Newton being "greats." Goff and Wentz are somewhere between the "greats" and "is what it is" category. Trubisky is still fairly young, but I can't help but feel like he should still be in the "is what it is" category. All that being said, plus my personal belief that Rosin, Haskins, and Murray don't have a snowballs chance in hell of being great due to their situations, especially their offensive lines, and I have to agree with you. The future is much brighter in the AFC than the NFC. However, you do mention that in the NFC there are 5 upper echelon QBs, 3 on their way out the door, but the same is true in the AFC.

Giants and Dolphins strike me as falling into the "suck for luck" category, the Fins on porpoise, the Giants due to a horrible front office. Redskins drafted a QB, but I still don't expect them to be good. Falling into the second category would probably be the Ravens again. They lost a lot of talent on D, with Suggs, Smith, Mosely, all jumping ship, not to mention John Brown. Additional teams that strike me as a team where I can't recall any big moves they made or anything that would suggest they noticeably improved at all would be the Titans and Lions. They just seem like teams that are treading water, rather than improving. The Steelers fall into this category for me as well. I don't think they'll be bad, per se, just that they haven't really improved at all from last year, and maybe got a bit worse. Bengals keep trying to redo their OL, but it keeps falling apart on them; the Red Rifle can be fairly decent behind a good line, but has shown he's bad behind a bad OL, which they now have, so I don't hold out much hope for them. I have no faith in Chuckie being able to build a team out in Oakland. The Cardinals are consistently believed to have improved greatly due to the new QB/coach dynamic, but I can't help but feel like they're severely overrated. I'm still looking for them to be picking in the top 5 of the draft next year after doing nothing to improve their OL.

Definitely. I don't see how the best safety tandem in the game can be rated 86 and 80. Hughes only an 83? Although I am amused that Ed Oliver is already considered better than all but 10 Bills players...

The Bills had just two guys rated higher than 83, with Micah Hyde at 86, and Tre White at 85. White was tied for the 19th highest rated CB. Both of those two guys got snubbed in my opinion. Who else do you think got majorly snubbed? Here are the rankings: https://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/player-ratings?i=1&t=3&s=ovr_rating:DESC&=undefined

No, the official website has him at 63 as well. https://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/player-ratings?i=1&p=QB&s=ovr_rating:DESC&utm_campaign=mad20_hd_ww_ic_soco_twt_m20ratingshubtw&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cid=58923&ts=1561998385092 When you filter by QB like I did in that link there, Tyree Jackson is 64, Jones is 63, like in the video. That's EA Sports own website, too.