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I mean, it's not like it's this guy's job to do so...

I don't know, this list seems kinda messed up. I get that it's his favorite draft prospects, but Greedy Williams in the mid-30's? When he's projected as a top 10 pick? Something seems wrong there...

So a little less depressing, I was a grad student at Penn State, and in my first semester there, taught three Penn State football players in a lab class; Johnnie Troutman, who played a couple years as a guard in San Diego, Nick Sukay, who was briefly on the Bills practice squad (I thought it was REALLY amazing he was on the Bills, but he didn't last long), and Jared Odrick, who was projected to go in the first round. We didn't have any picks anywhere around where he was expected to go (we were drafting early, he was expected to go late first), so unless he somehow fell to us in the second, I wasn't expecting too much, and was just thinking it would be cool to follow his career, root for him personally. The problem? He got drafted by the Dolphins! I'm just sitting there on draft night, stunned, thinking "how the hell can I root for you now!?"

It's literally only our plays. As long as there are 10 plays total or more, it's possible to figure out the top 10.

I was impressed with the breakdown. Thought they had some interesting things to say, especially with regards to how Allen has been going through his progressions. Also, I had seen some "Is Robert Foster a #1 Receiver?" threads in the past, and had kinda chuckled, shrugged them off, remembered the preseason and the early games, didn't even bother to go into the thread, and just thought to myself "Nope, definitely not." This breakdown really made me rethink that. Foster is demanding all kinds of attention from safeties. The Lions at least rolled coverage his way a lot. He was definitely impressive in this game, and so it's not just Allen that we can talk about making progress. Foster's become a much better route runner, a smarter receiver, on top of being incredibly fast. Now if we can just get him to be able to catch a bit better, maybe just catch it on the first attempt, rather than having drops or him having to double catch it sometimes...

So the only free agents I'm currently seeing for next year from the defense are Kyle Williams, Lorenzo Alexander, (technically) Vontae Davis, Jordan Phillips, Lafeyette Pitts, Eddie Yarbrough, Dean Marlow, and Mike Love. If Williams and The Lorax want to play again next year, I'm sure they'd be welcome back with open arms. Jordan Phillips I'm having trouble seeing leave, considering he seems to love it here, and he's been a good rotational player that I don't think anyone would want to see leave. I figure he'll probably be resigned in the offseason. Beyond that, no really earth-shattering losses. Simply by the fact that we're not really losing anyone next year, unless they decide to retire, I think your goal of keeping the defense intact is already accomplished.

I mean, it's interesting? But like people are saying, there's no context. And how their stats were rookie season only seems to lightly have a correlation with how they end up. The guys who are just bad tend to stay bad, while others grow with experience. Stats alone are never going to tell you all you need to know. Sometimes you just need to do the eye test to see if a guy has what it takes to eventually become special.

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Not a chance in hell. The NFL has their favorites and tries to prop them up at every opportunity.

Even if it wasn't if it was the Chiefs catching the ball, and the Chargers were on defense, that flag would have been thrown.

And where's the helmet to helmet penalty on that catch?

Wow, Chargers get the ticky tack penalties, Chiefs get away with the big ones. Refs deciding games again. What a disgrace.

Finally a call on the Chiefs...

I'm actually kinda surprised how okay most people would be with Greedy. I figured more people would be shouting for offensive players, but I kind of like the BPA approach. Stars are more important than starters. And locking down the top 2 WRs of an opposing offense, forcing defenses to throw at Hyde, Poyer, Johnson, Milano, or Edmunds? Not the worst way to play defense. We just need to make sure the OLine gets upgraded, and fast.

You seem to have selected "Other." Is the last name the reason you'd draft him? Or should I put up other options?

I've seen a couple mock drafts where people have the Bills selecting Greedy Williams with their 1st. On the one hand, he is one of the highest rated players, generally assumed to be a top-5 pick like Jalen Ramsey or Denzel Ward, and a defensive backfield of Williams, Taron Johnson, Tre White, Micah Hyde, and Jordan Poyer would be ridiculous, and would be in place for years. On the other hand, the offense obviously needs work, at just about every position. Despite this draft having much better defensive players than offensive ones, offensive players are who we need right now. So, what are your thoughts?

Let's see, McDermott has been drafting well, getting starters at the least, stars at the most from picks in the first round through the fifth, has developed players so that those young guys have made a big impact on the season, and with one more good draft/free agency, and/or continuing to develop his players, puts the Bills in place to make waves in the NFL going forward for a long time to come. McCarthy, on the other hand, has squandered some of the best years of one the NFL's most elite QBs in history. Tough choice, troll...

The great thing is, it's not even JUST Allen. The past two drafts have netted viable starters to studs to absolute stars all the way down into the 5th round. Just look at the draft picks: 2017 - Tre White (star), Zay Jones (making significant improvement and is a viable starter), Dion Dawkins (viable starter), Matt Milano (stud). The other two picks, Peterman and Vallejo, haven't worked out, but only missed on a 5th and a 6th? Those are crap shoot rounds. 2018 - Josh Allen (likely franchise QB), Tremaine Edmunds (star in the making), Harrison Phillips (good rotational player and showing signs of being good for a long time), Taron Johnson (stud of a nickel back), Siran Neel (word still out on him), Wyatt Teller (viable starter). Ray-Ray and Proehl seem like bad picks, but a 6 and a 7? Again, crap shoot rounds. Other 1st and 2nd year players making an impact: Levi Wallace, Robert Foster, Jason Croom, and Isaiah McKenzie. For once, we're actually drafting well, and those draft picks are having a huge impact on games, even ones pretty deep into the draft. I'm excited for these Bills, despite it being a losing season, because it's anything but a lost one. There's been a hell of a lot of development that will pay dividends in the future. I can only imagine what the Bills will do if the players they have, especially Allen, keep developing, let alone if we also keep drafting this well. The future sure seems bright in Buffalo.

Yeah, as I was putting the title name in, I was originally going to just go with "Angry Runs." I typed it in, stopped, looked at it, went "nope," and added some more details so that people didn't get the same impression you did. Oh, absolutely, especially that one against the Vikings. If I had seen it then, I would have posted it, but I'm happy he got nominated this go around. You're welcome!

I was amused by this, thought I should share. On "Good Morning Football," they do an award each week for the best "angry run." Josh Allen got nominated this week. I won't spoil it with who wins, but it was fun. http://www.nfl.com/videos/good-morning-football/0ap3000000993230/Most-impressive-runs-from-Week-12-in-the-NFL

I've always felt the all white uniforms were boring. Give me some color

Yeah, I seriously don't understand the idea of throwing in "Wide Right," the "Music City Forward Lateral," Stevie Johnson's "This how you do me!?" drop, Rex Ryan's arrival... Not sure how highlighting horrible plays/decisions equates to "hype up." Also, generally in a hype up video with a song playing over it, you generally want a fast-paced song that gets the blood pumping, not one where you keep thinking "wait, can I sing the next line yet? No? Okay, how about now? Still no? D*** this is a slow song..."

Didn't get to see the game, all I got was the highlights on NFL.com, plus the "every A.J. McCarron throw" video there, too. To be perfectly honest, he actually looked pretty good. The supporting cast around him wasn't great, and you see a lot of dropped balls that hit receivers in the hands, but there were some good plays in there on his part, and even his throwaways seemed to be smart plays instead of trying to force it. As far as I can tell, everyone was really disappointed with the Bills by the end of the first half, and put that on McCarron because he was the QB and they were down 20-0 at the half, but even his bad plays weren't atrocious. His two INTs were on a tipped ball and on a route that they repeatedly ran against the same guy. I had seen the highlight of the INT previously, and so when I went through the "Every Throw" video, I saw a curl route at the top of the screen, and the throw going there and thought "okay, here's the interception," but then it was a completion. And then did the same thing a second time. And a third. And then finally the DB jumped the route really quickly, making the interception, because he had seen it come against him already so many times. That honestly seemed more like a playcalling problem then a QB one. So it seems like the first half was horrible defense from the Bills, along with bad penalties and crucial drops to stall drives, McCarron starts gelling with the rest of the offense more in the third, then kicks it into high gear in the fourth. For those that actually saw the entire game, not just all the throws, how accurate is my summary? I wish the video was all drop backs, rather than throws. The plays where he gets sacked, or runs for it but ends up well short of first downs or whatnot, if there were any, weren't included, and that would have probably given me a better overall picture. But does that seem to be consistent with what people who actually saw the game in full thought?

It's true that it all hinges on the QB, but exactly how many games do you think Tyrod actually WON for us? His style of play was more geared towards not losing rather than winning. Very rarely did he lose us games, but very rarely did he win us games, either. As long as the games this year's QB wins for us matches the number of games he loses for us, then with a slightly worse offense and a slightly better defense, theoretically, we should have the same record as last year. And considering that Daboll will likely put our QB in better positions to win us games than the previous OC did, I'm hopeful that whatever QB we end up with for the season can tread water as well as Tyrod did.

That's fair. But that's also the point. I want to be able to make that comparison, instead of being forced to compare those performances with one where the third string Oline was a turnstile when it wasn't committing penalties. So the competition goes up? Good. I want to see how he reacts to that, if he can overcome it. Does he connect on those deep balls if he has someone other than Robert "I'm too good to dive" Foster trying to catch them? Has his footwork and mechanics improved? It's a little hard to tell when he's scrambling all the time. But his pocket presence was good, and there were definitely flashes of greatness there.