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I'm looking forward to Allen playing with the second strings like the rest of the rookie QBs are. I'm wondering how the comparison would have been with Allen vs the rest of them then. At the very least he would have had an actual offensive line.

I've been thinking similar things. I'm now wondering how all the "we should have draft Rosen instead of Allen" people will react to this?

I've had enough of these announcers in the Chargers/Cardinals games. They are such homers, they are having trouble recognizing basic things. Like how a throw that forces the WR out of bounds, uncatchable, is not in fact a "great throw," a "very, very good throw," or a "really positive play."

I can't argue. I haven't seen too much of Rudolph or Jackson, though. Is he still the worst if you include those two?

"You want that thing rigid...like you on the dance floor." This on top of the previous "Dora is exploring the backfield" quote. I am so happy these guys aren't national announcers, and are just Cardinals guys...

Oh jeez, I just realized Geno Smith had come in for the Chargers. Geno's so bad he's backing up Cardale Jones? If Rivers goes down, the Chargers season is over.

So I haven't been paying TOO much attention, but it seems like Rosen has been rather pedestrian. The worst of the rookie QBs. How do all of you see it so far?

We get it, Josh Allen pissed in your cereal. I've heard of NFL standing for No Fun League, but I've never seen someone so dedicated to the cause. Everyone here is so happy that you've already closed the book on Allen before he's even played his first regular season game. With that kind of predictive power, you must be winning lotteries left and right, correct? Mind telling me the next megamillions number?

Can whichever Bills fan that punted Magnetar's puppy off the bridge just apologize? Jeez, I've never heard of someone who so wants to hate something he claims to love...

So is anyone else getting the feeling that both the Jets and the Bills are being underrated by a lot of people this year, and for the second consecutive year, both will surprise a lot of people when they start putting together some wins?

I think you misunderstood. My understanding of what Tasker was saying wasn't that they hated playing against him because he was so good, but because he had such a strong arm. If you're coming away with bruises every time you knocked a ball down, you'd probably not enjoy having to knock those balls down, either. At least, that's what I got out of it.

What about nickel corner? Shaq vs. Murphy? Harrison Phillips vs. Washington for the 3rd DT rotation? Siran Neal as a big safety possibility? Swing tackle battle? Let's be honest, there are a bunch of competitions that are going to have a huge impact on our season. It's the reason I'm looking SO much more towards the preseason than I normally do (it definitely isn't because I'm trying to distract myself from worrying about my thesis defense in less than a week. Totally...)

So my question would be, why wouldn't we just wait until the Chiefs inevitably have to cut one of their ridiculous number of good RBs?

I'm with Rev. People were predicting 2-4 wins last year, instead we get to the playoffs. People are discounting the Bills because we have too many unknowns, but that's the problem. We don't know how good or bad different position groups will be. The defense has more talent than last year, but the entire offense is a question mark. However, depending on your opinion of TT, JA, and a healthy KB, you could make the argument that the offense should be better than it was last year. Hell, last year we looked absolutely horrible on offense all through the preseason and into the season, but we did get somewhat better, and we got wins. People are saying we play tough divisions with the NFC North and AFC South, but you could say the same thing last year with the AFC West and NFC South. The Bills this coming year honestly seem like one of the most difficult teams to predict. I don't think I'd be surprised to see a 4 win season, but I also don't think I'd be that surprised to watch another Bills playoff game.

So people have been talking about spending sprees and whatnot, but what I want to see is for one or two big ticket free agents coming in with front-loaded contracts so that the big impacts on our salary come when we can most afford to pay it, and when there aren't a lot of guys we're trying to resign. That way, when we ARE trying to resign our own players, these big ticket free agents are relatively cheap. Build for both next year AND the future.

I don't know, he looked faster than that on tape. Still not the fastest, but he looked quick, which can help create separation. That 40 time might be a little misleading...

So pretty much, you want us to take a draft strategy from the Browns' playbook and go winless because were don't have a QB and passed on all the really good ones?

Personally, I agree with the original premise, but for different reasons. In a draft where 5-6 QBs could go in the first round, and no agreement on who is the best, or what order, I honestly can't see the browns passing on Saquon #1, then taking the third QB in the draft at 4, if not higher. With good WRs (finally), plus a bridge QB, AND Saquon taking the pressure off everyone else in the offense, its a MUCH better situation for them to be in than if they took a QB at 1, then if they had to hope Saquon fell to them at 4, or a lesser but still good player. If they did anything else, they're essentially committing themselves to further futility.

With a halfway decent QB, Jordan Matthews can be at the very least really solid, if not really good. E.J. Gaines was the forgotten man on the defense. When we didn't have him, we were in trouble, and QBs threw in that direction. I love Kyle Williams, but he's declined. He would be more of a nostalgia signing than a good player signing. Beyond that, everyone else is forgettable. Anyone else we resigned should be a cheap, depth signing more than anything. Anything more, and they're not worth it.

Personally, I feel like Peterman's a much better fit for this offense than Tyrod is. Without the offensive strategy of the past few years that played to Tyrod strengths, i.e. deep throws, improvisation, I don't think Tyrod will ever be as good as he was the past two years. Especially considering the current strategy seems to play to all of Tyrod's weakness, i.e. quick decision making, throwing people open, medium throws, throwing over the middle, and rhythm passing. I honestly believe Peterman would do a better job as the starter. That being said, I'd personally put Peterman as the starter regardless of Tyrod being healthy or not, and let Peterman develop, see what he can do.

See, my problem is that people keep saying not to worry, Tyrod's been better in the past, the running game has been amazing in the past, etc., and it's going to be fine. Granted, the defense DOES look a lot better than anything Rex ever did. But Tyrod's strengths are the deep balls and improvisation. His weaknesses are rhythm passing, making quick decisions, and throwing over the middle and medium distances. What does the new offensive game plan require? Rhythm passing, quick decisions, throwing over the middle, and throwing short to medium distances. There's been very few deep balls up to this point. And improvisation isn't really worked into the game plan too much. So I feel like Tyrod's abilities were maximized in the previous offensive game plan, and he can only get worse from here on in, not better. That type of strategy DOES seem to play into Peterman's strengths, though. So I can't help but feel like Peterman would be the better option going forward. Other problems I'm seeing is that although Zay Jones looks like a beast, he's still a rookie. Rookie WRs don't normally put up WR1 stats. And aside from him, who else do we have at WR? Jordan Mathews is pretty much it, and he hasn't played with the Bills at all, and won't until the regular season starts. Hard to see him making much of an impact. Clay's shown he can have an impact on games here in the preseason, but if Tyrod gets put back in as the starter, he's just going to underutilize Clay like he's always done. Finally, Shady is another year older. He's over the hill as far as RBs go. At this point in their career, RBs are starting to go into a decline. Who knows how much of one he'll have, and it probably won't be noticeable, but he probably won't be quite as good as he was last year. And don't forget that we really don't have a settled RB2 situation. No one's really stood out like Gillislee did. And who knows if the offensive strategy will put Shady in as many opportunities to succeed as the previous one did. I'm seriously worried about the offense this year. I honestly believe Peterman is the better option at QB. I think the defense will get better, but the offense will take a big step in the wrong direction. Quinn up there asked what teams on our schedule we're afraid of, and called a bunch of our opponents soft, but does anyone doubt that those teams are saying the same thing about us?

Yeah, this is a pretty horrid summary. When Tyrod has all the time in the world and doesn't get rid of the ball, that's not the line's fault. When Tyrod's first option isn't open so he panics and runs out of a perfect pocket straight into a D-linemen that's there for containment, specifically because he does that, that also isn't the line's fault. If we had a pocket passer instead of a scrambler, the pass blocking grade would probably be better. Sometimes stats don't tell the whole story. This is a case where stats don't tell much of a story, period, and so this piece is kinda trash.

Eh, "some catching ability" is something to work with, and he's got the body type to be a good pass blocker, if trained for it. Give him some coaching and I'm guessing he'd at the very least eventually be fine in the passing game. His run game ability is obviously very good. I'm sold. If he's there in the 5th, I'd be more than happy if he was the pick.

You mention that you're not concerned with drafting a pass catching back, but I was thinking more of the problem that Mark Ingram down in NO had, at least early in his career. He was having trouble getting onto the field in the NFL because he was completely one dimensional, so other teams knew that when he was on the field, it was going to be a run play. Everything I saw in those highlights was him as a runner. Is that because he's not good in the passing game at all? If he's out there during a passing play, is he going to be able to be an asset in some way, whether it's as an additional blocker or as an outlet? Or will he be a liability on passing plays? Or not on the field at all for them? Just like you said, I'm not worried about him replacing Shady in the passing game. But if Shady's hurt or needs a breather, would we be able to pass at all with Perine out there? That's what I was asking about.