Not at the table Karlos

His foot touches OOB before the screenshot.

There was plenty of easy choices for him to take. That’s a lot of people’s issue with him. He either ignored it or struggled to anticipate it coming open. The one Simms said he should have thrown to Cook that you keep disagreeing with was lack of anticipation. He should be able to understand leverage and momentum but he struggles with it at times. Big reason why RAC was poor most of his career.

This. He has some issues reading defenses. He himself has said he doesn’t watch a ton of film. Maybe he needs to. He also needs to see receivers open and struggles to anticipate them coming open. Not a good combo with current WR group. The front office understood this for a bit then got back to their Carolina obsession with big plodding WRs.

Your brain can’t see reality. Got it.

Seems every other week we have things to learn from. It’s been 7 years, he should know these things already.

This is stupid. There’s no way to prove you right or wrong with out actually making a change.

I agree with pretty much everything here. From the top of my head the route Kincaid ran on the play before James Cook TD was open a lot. Posts or in breaking routes a couple times. Hollins on one iirc and MVS on another. Hollins deep shot. Like I said in the edit of my previous post I when I say receivers are open I’m including every passing option. I apologize if there’s confusion because receivers means WRs. I should use a different word. My issue is Josh missing open options. Not saying the WRs can separate and are good because I’m not, they’re bad.

I understand how passionate you are about them not being able to separate but yesterday there was receivers open. You were at the game. You should have saw them. I'm in no way shape or form saying these receivers are good at separating or anything like that. They need an upgrade or 4 badly. I’m saying there was open receivers (TEs and RBs are included in this) and Josh went elsewhere. Something he’s had issues with at times throughout his career. That clip doesn’t really say much of anything besides the receivers are meh.

Most plays have a player running a deeper route. You need to spread and stretch the defense out or else you’ll have receivers carrying defenders to other receivers and nobody will be open. Need to open up space for the offense to operate. At times the plan may be to take a deep shot but if the play is covered it’s on the QB to go elsewhere. The qb goes through their reads and picks the best option to throw. Some of the deep shots were Allen running around. That’s not part of the play design. Josh is aggressive and wants to go deep. Josh makes the final decision on where to go with the ball. His decision making isn’t the greatest despite his talent and stats. Where did you watch. There was open receivers a lot. My view was pretty much the all22. I lost count of how many times I was screaming someone was open and Allen bailed or threw elsewhere.

Why do people keep using this? There’s receivers open. Josh is ignoring them. He’s had this problem his whole career. His talent covers for it a lot but he could be easily the best ever if he could play smarter. His talent level is crazy good his decision making not so much Allen struggles to play within the structure of the offense consistently. He wants to play backyard football when he doesn’t have to. It’s great he can do it when it’s needed but it’s not needed as much as he does it. There’s a decent amount of times a receiver is open at the top of his drop, he looks elsewhere then runs around. Just throw the ball to the open guy. He doesn’t have to make highlight reel plays every single play. Tom Brady brought it up to him in one of his podcasts. Said he’s stubborn and has to do things his way and told Josh that he doesn’t have to force things deep when there’s a safer option shorter. Josh scoffed at him and rolled his eyes. It happens in games they win and in games they lose. However when they win everyone acts like everything is fine and there’s nothing to improve even when there is. It’s oh we won everything is perfect. Then oh we lost everything sucks.

The Hollins throw was absolutely one of them. How is throwing the ball 10 yards away from where the receiver is supposed to go a good throw? A flat footed safety not moving should not dictate throwing a ball the opposite way a route is designed to go.

He can make them he’s just very inconsistent with them. For each one of these highlight plays there’s 5 deep throws that were poor.

Safety was standing still. Ball should have gone where route was designed and where the receiver was going. If he ran the normal route the ball lands 10 yards away from him because the route was going inside and Josh threw it outside The safety was standing still. Hollins was running with speed. In what world is someone standing still going to catch up to someone running full speed in that short of a distance?

The route is going towards the middle of the field. Josh throws it towards the sidelines. Not that easy to stop your momentum and change direction. The safety wasn’t moving so no reason to worry about them. That ball should have been thrown where the route was going, inside. Josh decided to make it difficult and throw outside

Deep shot to Kincaid didn’t. Was too low giving defender a chance to almost pick it. More air that drops in Kincaid hands. If he doesn’t drop it, should be a walk in td edit deep shot to Kincaid later in the game.

His decision making wasn’t great. Josh definitely passed up easy plays for deep shots. His deep ball has never been great. He throws frozen ropes with a low trajectory that are very hard for a receiver to track and run under. If it’s not a perfectly placed ball it’s most likely sailing over their head or going to the defender that was left in Kincaids dust. Diggs first year here Josh was better at putting more air on deep shots but they’d be under thrown some and receiver would have to slow down. He’s regressed back to frozen ropes.

Lmfao you need to watch the all 22 when it comes out. There were open receivers. Josh like he has during a lot of his career ignored them for low percentage deeper shots that he struggles to throw. Once he stopped ignoring them a crazy thing happened, they marched for a TD. It’s all on film.

Josh was the biggest issue yesterday. He was bad. Horrible decision making all game

Brady was OC with the panthers before coming to Buffalo. So not a rookie.

Problem is when there are open receivers Josh decides not to throw to them and tries to make a bigger highlight reel play to that’s either a low percentage chance for completion or they’re covered. It’s been a problem Josh’s whole career. Once Josh started choosing the shorter open receiver yesterday the offense marched right up the field for a score.

Iirc Coleman caught his TD after being hit in the head by a pass

There was a few times Josh had wide open receivers and chose to throw a lower percentage pass to someone that had a defender on them. He’s done it a lot throughout his career and it is a problem.

He does have the final say on where the ball goes based on what he sees and thinks the defense is doing. A lot of Josh’s plays are running around off script. Josh chose to throw to Hollins. I highly doubt the coaching staff said ignore open receivers short for Hollins deeper. Josh has had problems taking what the defense gives him outside of a few games. Tom Brady told him he needs to take safer sometimes shorter throws vs throwing into coverage trying to make a big play. Josh pretty much scoffed at him and rolled his eyes. The underneath stuff was there for a lot of the game. Once Josh started talking it they started marching for scores. When he wasn’t the offense stalled and he looked bad.

You said it your self it was his worst game as a pro. How in the world is it not on him. His decision making in the first half put the team in a hole. Josh was a major part of the issues yesterday. Yes the receivers let him down at times but it’s not all on them. People need to stop thinking he’s perfect and can’t do any wrong. He’s an extremely talented but flawed QB.

First half Allen was pretty bad. Second half was a combination. He was making a lot of poor decisions. Receivers were getting open. He made decision to go elsewhere for some reason. It’s been an issue that he’s been able to overcome for the most part the last few years. He ignores shorter open receivers for covered deeper receivers. Tom Brady mentioned he needed to take the safer throws for maybe less yards instead of forcing things on a podcast or something and Allen kinda rolled his eyes at it. He’s one of the most talented players to ever play in the NFL and does amazing things that maybe 1 or 2 other qbs can do. It masks his issues for the most part but when he’s not on his floor can be pretty bad. He needs to learn to take what’s open(was better first couple games this year), make safer throws, and put some air under his deep balls(Kincaid wide open and ball is thrown low trajectory and almost picked when it should have been an easy TD). His deeper shots are hard to track for receivers because they come in low.