Agreed about moosehead, i added that in the "richmonds entire post" thing...but...
sierra nevada is absolutely craft beer...whats your beef with it? because its "too big" - so harpoon and dogfish head are also not craft beery enough for ya either?
if you dont like sierra nevada I feel bad for ya, Celebration is widely regarded as one of the best IPAs by "Beer snobs" the world over, and Torpedo is an excellent year round IPA as well
and again, no where in the thread topic does it exclusively say "craft beer"
but please, enlighten me with what YOU consider to be craft beery enough for ya....
yum....that and Southern Tier's 2XMAs are two of my fave christmas beers