OldTimer1960

Swope would be interesting Boy, he (Jonathan Meeks) is WAY off the radar. Can't find anything on him...

He has been in trouble a ton of times. It isn't just a one-two time thing with Rogers. However, in round 5 he may be worth the gamble...

Certainly those two address needs... (Poyer and Furstenburg).

Interesting players remaining on the board: RB: Stephon Taylor (Stan), Andre Ellington (Clem) - would have loved to nab Marcus Lattimore, but SF just selected him. These two guys could be nice additional RBs. OL: Oday Aboushi, David Quessenberry, Luke Marquardt - interesting guys who might be able to carve a niche as versatile multi-position backups. DL: Jesse Williams (NT Alabama), Brandon Jenkins (DE FSU), "Q" Smith - Surprised the hulking Williams is still available, teams apparently don't like him as much as the analysts did. Brandon Jenkins and "Q" Smith are pass rush specialists. Smith is particularly interesting with high production. CB: Think Jordan Poyer is still available. TE: Matt Furstenburg (Maryland), Chris Gragg (Ark) - both undersized, but fairly fast pass catching TE prospects LB: Michael Mauti (Penn St) - would likely have been selected by now, but has significant injury history. QB: Would they take Tyler Bray or Zac Dysert as possible long-term backups? I don't think they would, but Bray (especially) has great physical talent. Overall: I expect another pick on defense, but not sure who. I think Western Kentucky's Quantarus Smith would be interesting as a pass rush specialist.

I agree on Lattimore, but it depends on whether their doctors think he will every recover fully.

Might be good value to nab another RB prospect with Fred Jackson aging. Some good ones to look for include: Andre Ellington Jonathan Franklin Marcus Lattimore (would be a nice gamble, I think) Stephon Taylor On the OL, my favorites left are: Barrett Jones Brian Schwenke Oday Aboushi David Quessenberry Luke Marquardt CB is still a need: Jordan Poyer BW Webb LBs available include: Khaseem Greene Kevin Reddick Michael Mauti DL: Jesse Williams NT Alabama is available Brandon Jenkins (DE Fla St) - was injured this year and Tank Carradine took his spot Quanteres Smith - good pass rusher I would strongly consider another QB with lots still available Matt Barkley Ryan Nassib Tyler Wilson Tyler Bray Landry Jones I don't think all could be good long-term backups that could become starters. I think they'd take another WR, but Quinton Patton is well regarded (at least according to what I've read) It would be nice to get a TE prospect, but pickings look slim to me. One guy to watch might be Maryland's Matt Furstenburg who is fast, but not very big. My $.02 worth: I'd strongly consider one of the Centers (Jones or Schwenke) or one of the RBs (particularly Franklin or Ellington who is very fast).

I could see them drafting another QB as early the 4th. There are still decent QB prospects there. I wouldn't be upset to see them take any of Tyler Wilson, Matt Barkley, Ryan Nassib, Landry Jones, Tyler Bray or Zac Dysert or Matt Scott soon. They all have a chance to be good backup QBs with a chance to be more, especially Barkley (IMHO).

No, I was HOPING for WR. While Goodwin might be very very fast, he has not produced much at the collegiate level in terms of pass receptions.

I don't disagree that he might be helpful on a few plays a game, particularly on handoffs on the end around. My problem is that he hasn't been productive at WR and didn't even put up particularly good kick return numbers in spite of his obvious speed. I'd have preferred Hugh Thornton (OG) or Quinton Patton (WR) who was productive in college.

I am somewhat disappointed with this pick. He is clearly very very fast, but didn't do much at Texas either as a WR or a kick returner. Not sure I see what good his speed is if he doesn't catch passes or return kicks well....

Damn, wanted Keenan Allen and Chargers just took him.

Not much left at TE other than Mark Furstenburg, but might be too high for him. Maybe Chris Gragg from Arkansas. Wouldn't mind another WR here. Keenan Allen must not be fully healthy to still be available, but if it is just a matter of waiting for him to recover, I think he could be a great pick. Quinton Patton is also interesting here as is Terrance Williams. OL prospects include - oops Brian WInters just went. Hugh Thornton (OG), Terron Armstead is a true ATHLETE and could eventually play OT. David Bakhtiari, David Quessenberry (OG) LB: Quanterus Smith Could really want a CB, but I don't see much left Safety has been really picked over

I think I'd have preferred TE Gavin Escobar who went with the next pick, but this guy is supposed to be a very good athlete with the ability to cover TEs down the field. With his off-field problems, I am sure they did their homework. He is supposed to have a big passion for the game....

I am very happy with this pick! Woods is smooooooth and started as a Freshman at USC.

Bummer, I was hoping to nab him. Still Gavin Escobar and a couple of good WRs available.... Hopefully, they make it to our pick

I'd be pretty psyched with 2 of the following: WR: Keenan Allen, Robert Woods, Justin Hunter, Quinton Patton TE: Gain Escobar, Zach Ertz, Vance McDonald (better in round 3) OL: Terron Armstead (OT), Larry Warford (OG), Manelik Watson (OT) DE: Tank Carradine, Margus Hunt LB: Manti Te'o, Kevin Minter, Arthur Brown, Corey Lemonier DB: Jamar Taylor, Jonathan Banks (CB)

While I would like to help the defense, I think the play is to take the best WR and best TE they think is available in round two. Their pick of: WR: Keenan Allen, Quinton Patton, Robert Woods, Aaron Dobson, Justin Hunter TE: Gavin Escobar, Zach Ertz, Vance McDonald Based on what my favorite sources say about these guys, I'd love Keenan Allen (if healthy) and Gavin Escobar, but there appear to be several good prospects at those two positions that most analysts think highly of.

As has been pointed out, none of us knows - even the pros are wrong a lot when evaluating QBs. I picked Ryan Nassib. My rationale is that he elevated his team to a level above their talent level, had them improving as the season wore on, is reported to be very driven, succeeded under a lot of defensive pressure. In short, his intangibles seem very positive.

I like Dobson as a possible Bills' pick, too, but I don't like your description: "covered when hes not type of receiver". I think you meant "open when he's not type of receiver".

I think of him as way too small to last very long. Have to get him the ball relatively close to the line as he'll get lost down field at his size. He MIGHT be great, but I'd rather have a "normal sized" prospect than swinging for the fences with a VERY undersized guy. Austin would not be a favorite pick for me. I think it is too risky given his lack of size.

A glimmer of hope: Fitzgerald had 9, 8 and 8 catches in the three games before Kolb was injured against the Bills. Kolb did not return after that and Fitzgerald struggled.

I would not be upset if they don't take one. My view is IF they think any of these guys are good starting QB material, then they should just take that guy at 8. If not, then I don't see too much value in taking one in the 2nd or 3rd just to say they took one. In a league that is very QB-starved, if any of the teams think these guys can play they will get picked early. With all due respect to the "but, Kaepernick, Dalton and Wilson went in round 2 (3 for Wilson)" argument, those are extremely rare examples that happened to have been clustered in a 2 year period. Further, while all looked good so far, the book isn't closed on any of those guys. I wonder what Dalton would look like without a truly elite WR in Green and who knows if defenses will find a way to make life a lot harder for Russell Wilson... I do think Kaepernick is likely to continue his success. I think the actions of KC, Oak, Ariz and Buffalo acquiring veteran options speaks volumes about what the NFL scouts think of these QBs. That being said, Smith, Nassib, Manuel, Barkley and Wilson all have some positives that might allow them to be successful in the right situation. I do think that Buddy Nix is blowing smoke when he says that there are 2 or 3 guys in this draft that will be very good starting QBs.

Or guys that stop others from scoring TDs...

Justin Pugh will likely go by early round 2 based on what I am reading and hearing. I would be leery of Mathieu in early round 3 mostly because of his very signicant off field problems and because he is quite undersized. He could top out as a good nickel corner - would need to be great to do more at his size.

I wouldn't be too happy to move down that far unless we got significant compensation and then traded up from 23 again. Example 23 and Vikings' 2nd for 8, then 23 and our 3rd for a pick in the top 15. Even then, I wouldn't mess around. If they like a QB enough to think he is the answer as a good starter, take him at 8. If not, then take the best player at another position - you could consider moving down at that point.