OldTimer1960

I don’t think they can wait until 54 to get a WR if they want one who can contribute much this year. Why is that a waste? Neither Beasley nor Brown are young.

Until they bring in at least two NFL caliber WRs, I’d argue that McKenzie would make this roster as it is presently constructed. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think that it would be terrible if signs elsewhere, but the cupboard is flat empty ar WR after John Brown and Cole Beasley. I think they need to draft 2 WRs early, preferably 1 in 1st and 1 in 2nd or 3rd.

I don’t want to give away pick 54 to move up, but Jeudy, Lamb and Ruggs are a level above the next group of Jefferson, Higgins and a few others.

I wouldn’t overlook TJ Yeldon who is already on the team. I think Yeldon lost playing time to Gore due to Gore’s career status and leadership. I think Yeldon has proven to be a capable pass catcher out of the backfield in the NFL.

I think Brady may have won enough such that he can consider other options

Agreed. I don’t see a very good option in FA, but 2 WR in the first 3 rounds of the draft is OK with me. If they think taking a shot on a young underproducing vet like Funchess or Permian is worth it, then they should do so.

I don’t understand why many here have such a negative opinion of Higgins. OK, he is probably not in the Lamb, Jeudy, Ruggs tier, but he sure looks like a very good prospect still. The Bills are positioned in the bottom 1/3 of each round - not the top 1/3 as we grew used to for many years. The prospects available at that spot are different than what we are used to.

The FA WR group, other than Cooper, is very blah. I hope that the Bills don’t pay much for any of that group. Funchess is still young, but to date hasn’t looked like any kind of answer as a starting WR. If they can get him at a price that makes sense as maybe a 4th WR and they take a WR early in the draft (round 1 or early in round 2 by trade down or up) it could be semi-interesting, Is Funchess a competent ST player?

Your logic makes sense to me. Still, doses it make sense to spend another #1 at CB with Tre White to pay? I guess that, if they can extend White, then he’d be 30 by the time Fulton’s rookie contract is up. Maybe that does make sense!

I wasn’t necessarily advocating for Ruggs (but I do like him), rather I was not seeing the comparison to Tavon Austin.

But at 22, is there anyone available who has star potential at any position? I don’t know that any of the DEs like Epenesa or Gross-Matos are potential stars, nor would I think that any of the OTs like maybe Josh Jones would be, either. Do you agree? If the idea is take a good, not great, player at a premium position like DE or OT over good, not great WR - I can understand that. But Bills don’t pick in round 2 until 54th overall and, while WR is purportedly deep, pickings could start getting slim by then -at the very you might miss out on your top few of the 2nd tier. I know that the Bills have other needs, but I see 2 NFL WRs and a special teams player at the position on the Bills’ current roster and little help likely at the position in FA. I agree - don’t reach at the position in round 1, but I’d be worried about missing out by waiting until 54 as well. But what “star” do you think is going to be available at 22?

Ruggs is 3” taller and 14 pounds heavier than Austin was. That is a significant difference.

Shenault measured 6’ 5/8” and 227 pounds. John Brown is listed at 5’11” 178 pounds and Cole Beasley is 5’8” 174. Shenault is almost 50 pounds bigger than Brown. I’m not the biggest Shenault fan (at least as a 1st round option - somewhere in round 2 sign me up), but he isn’t at all similar to Brown or Beasley.

All positives that Bills’ decision makers believe are very important. Thanks!

Other than an uncharacteristic uptick of 14 in 2017 and 10.5 in 2018, isn’t a 6.5 sack guy about what Campbell is? He had 6.5 sacks last year for Jax. I’d be a bit worried that he is on the downside of his career and that 2017-18 were the exception rather than the rule for his production. That was a highly talented defense he played on. Not arguing, but rather asking?

Would you rather have a younger maybe still ascending Lawson with no trade required or 33 year old Campbell for more $ and have to trade a pick?

That would be interesting. Why such low cost for Campbell? Is it because of his age and salary?

That would be nice, if possible. Any trade for a starting DE is going to cost significant draft choices, thus diminishing what they can do in the draft.

The Bills will be in the market for pass rush help, especially if Shaq Lawson leaves in FA. I know that 40 time does not necessarily predict pass rush ability, but once you get past Chase Young and Chaisson there are not any speedy 4-3 DEs. Perhaps Yetur Gross-Matos will run fast (declined to workout at combine), but after that you are looking at guys who run 4.9/5ish 40 yard dashes. For comparison, Shaq Lawson ran 4.7 and one of this board's favorite whipping boys when he played here - Chris Kelsay ran 4.75 at the combine. Again, I completely understand that straight line speed for a DE isn't the end-all for pass rush ability. This doesn't mean that they can't find a competent pass rushing 4-3 DE early in the draft - maybe guys like AJ Epenesa or Bradle Anae can be more productive than their speed suggests, but I think the Bills should be looking to re-sign Shaq Lawson and supplement him with a draft choice rather than trying to replace him with a draft pick.

Perriman is a very good athlete with little production in 4 NFL seasons and has bounced to 3 teams in those 4 years. He had a little uptick in production late last season after the Buccaneers’ starting WRs were injured. I think it would be just a shot in the dark if you sign him and hope that he makes any significant impact.

Next year’s 1st and a 5th this year won’t be enough get you back into the end of round 1.

I watched two of his games and Reagor looks very good to me.

Jerry Butler was excellent- if he hadnt gotten hurt he would have had an even better career.

I would have a hard time giving up pick 54 just to move 4 spots from 22 to 18.

I like what I’ve seen of Ayiuk and Reagor. I’m neutral on Higgins and I wouldn’t take Shenault in round 1 - I don’t think he solves a WR problem (at least not this year).