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unless the ball hadn’t been actually spotted. In which case whatever.

ive enjoyed it a lot but year three of a new regime with a top qb pick on board is on schedule to contend. It’s Goff, Wentz, Wilson, Big Ben, Kaepernick, da bears, ravens, etc... didn’t expect this win total, and am enjoying that, but I do expect this to be a year that we are supposed to have a chance and disappointed we didn’t have more chips on the table in a season we should have been starting to go for it and also happened to get a lot of breaks. the flip side of your post is a lot of people don’t seem to think we can do what the rest of the league does so we should be happy getting less. I had fun. Especially compared to usual. We could all have a lot more though.

Yup and at 1.5 TDs per game I’d take a few extra turnovers to get a few more big plays- in general. a 24-3 season is excellent. I’m not knocking it. But we will have to start scoring more to be a real contender and unless we suddenly become an elite running team it’ll come on joshs arm.

To say he only has 2 ints is a great post if it was the only intent. He added TDs to try to show he’s still slinging it and being productive while not throwing the picks, but then rounded it up with the rushing. Which overstates his case. It’s ok to note that. Under 2 TD passes a game doesn’t play as well as 2+ when saying a guy is producing without turnovers

the original posts point was that the TD to turnover ratio was good for an inaccurate guy. To present rushing TDs within that thesis isn’t particularly honest. i wasn’t debating if he was productive or good or... I was sticking to the OP calling out he has 22 combined tds as an “inaccurate” passer when a quarter are runs

count rushing stats all you want. to say josh Allen is an accurate passer due to his TD to Int ratio and count rushing tds is not terribly accurate unless you are making some back door argument that his runs are super accurate passes. In which case you should just say that. jackson fights being called a running back and I didn’t say his rushing means he’s inaccurate. I said you can’t sneakily roll in his rushing stats to use numbers to prove he is accurate. I think that should stand on his passing stats, for better or worse. Or at least say you are using his rushes as “completed passes” directly.

it can be. Without context it can cut both ways. low accuracy percentage and low turnovers probably speaks a bit to him not really putting it into windows that he might need to down the line for instance. There are probably a few of those games I’d be fine with the right turnover if it corresponds to 3 more big chunk plays too. Plenty of them staying safe was fine but as we get into the playoffs and games speed up, windows get smaller etc... it’ll be interesting to see if he can make the big plays more consistently

Probably worth clearly pointing out that and if calling it about accuracy to only include passing tds. That he has rushed for a bunch of touchdowns doesn’t speak to accuracy. it’s a fair topic but the OP stacked the deck a little

obviously you mentioned the rams and cowboys. seahawks have traded high picks Multiple times in this regime including a first patriots for cooks! kc for Frank Clark steelers for Minkah! texans went a bit wild bears for Mack saints have dealt several for draft picks (Ingram and Davenport) obviously some flops like browns with obj or cincy for Cordy Or emergency moves like the vikes getting bradford I just rattled off nearly half of the current front office regimes just off hand on my phone including most contenders and pretty much anyone you’d likely refer to as a credible front office. you can’t be scared of making moves to win.

yes on the rams you overshot by 10% and for our cap that’s nearly a 30% overstatement. he’s not cheap but you high balled it quite a bit to push your point. Nothing wrong with saying 18m a year is a lot.

19m 21m for the last 2 years. so an average of 23 through the remainder (10% less than 25m) and thats ignoring 24m of that staying with them - so more like 18m if we made the move

im talking about 100% of front offices in the entire league doing it. Every team picks years to over index in talent to try to get there.

Also they often don’t work. We just don’t see those high lights or remember the run of the mill walk back to the huddle

plenty do. In fact every single one (but maybe excepting the pats) tend to do so in cycles of reloading for more serious runs.

that’s nowhere near the hit that comes with him. Heck that’s not even what the rams are at with the 40m signing bonus on the books for them.

so many young WRs move around, and many via trade

the can’t win with me players is a bit overstated. the pats did it with a drug dealing murderer. Michael Irvin allegedly stabbed a rookie on his team with a pair of scissors. Plenty of arrogant schmucks with rings.

meh. if you were super high pre draft you might as easily say “even though I can’t say I’m right I’m glad the teams rallied around him” both sides will see what they want around a guy with potential that has not put it together yet

i... uh... are we to the point that you have outrage about a non call that would’ve been declined? honestly, you are only getting so many PI flags regardless of play. It’s, in some ways, better not to get it on a catch. yea, you’d think you’d see some outrage if completely fabricated out of thin air. Odds are we didn’t hear the words or missed a camera angle

unless he really bottoms out, those guys tend to hang around even if they don’t put it together. Hard to move on from a “he can do it all with just a little more polish” guy early

we are missing a WR, could use a TE1, a RB2, a RT and I’m not an Allen hater but It being ok that he’s sub 60% because he’s pushing the ball deep doesn’t jive with the lack of big chunks actually completed we need more skill and more confidence on offense to hang with the big boys consistently.

On the flip side - days like these are examples of low expectations too. Had we pushed more chips on the table would we be considered a team like the ravens right now? But so many people, I believe our FO included didn’t look at this as a year to challenge as a true contender

at this point you want to burn some clock to not tie it and lose on a fg

quite the headline. I refuse to accept this as a bills mafia fansite

At least for sooooome seasons having a viable competitor might’ve knocked them down a seed with an extra loss or to the wildcard if the #2 was similarly good