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just amazing what a physical specimen he is while being such an inconsistent and often small presence. dude is huge, and while he’s known to flash the immense potential, he also has stretches where he plays like he’s 5’2, 120 lbs and doesn’t have any instincts.

I’m cool with it as a decent upside backup with experience.

the saints and eagles are no longer in position to be great because of the qb position, primarily. If either team had a real starter this year they’d be handling things differently essentially all the marketing during the bad years worked, and now a lot of fans are paranoid about doing things that good teams do

they will. You just have to either write it as an option or do a restructure. Worst case you just don’t spend the cash and roll it over

His dead money this year makes it almost impossible wouldn’t be shocked to see it down the line though

Would Mack even be there?

it’s a consideration, but even early in the year drew didn’t seem to fully trust him, which is a red flag. I don’t think sanders is a bum or anything but given the option, I wouldn’t hesitate saying brown is the guy I’d want this Sunday. and I’ve been one of browns critics too, with him being streaky outside that excellent year for us. I just think he’s got an extra step still, fits in the room, etc... but who knows behind the scenes.

having watched 100% of sanders snaps last year, I’m comfortable with my assessment sanders peak was excellent. Brown is still much closer to his ceiling though.

Sanders isn’t the Pilar of consistency either

He’s not as good as brown, but he’s an nfl starter on the outside and we needed one.

it’s amusing watching fans essentially point at a cash to cap strategy

I would be cool with the jets overpaying him

dont love Hendrickson but maybe he’d live up to it. Just not buying this high on him though.

it’s not so much motivational, as common sense negotiation. Everyone knows taysom is going to give 110%. taysom sees himself as a starting qb. To get him to tag 4 years onto the deal to achieve the accounting trick, it has to be reflective of how he sees his upside. if he plays as expected (not an entrenched starting qb) he gets his freedom to chase the next opportunity. If he shocks us, the saints didn’t screw him with a deal where the starter has a 4 year $20m contract and is holding out. it looks bizarre or like made up money but there’s plenty of rhyme and reason behind it

this contract (ie the 12) was signed a year ago as an elite role player with possible qv upside. It was an over pay but that discussion is old history.

Do you actually think he plays under that higher rate? the guys getting 12m for his qb play to day, and even that’s probably high but they didn’t want to eat dead money

there’s no “getting away with” anything here.

I enjoy that he’s both way overused and always injured but only really had a year of snaps....

ultimately it gives them the option to retain him as a franchise qb on the near impossible shot he earns it

every contract is voidable without penalty as long as you don’t have future year guarantees. you are getting hung up on the word and neglecting to think of the concept. dude just signed a 3 year extension essentially and has a signing bonus but not guaranteed salary. He’s never going to see year 2 of it. it’s him giving some cap flex but telling them the only way he’s there past this season is if he’s an elite starting qb, or he opts to renegotiate. Basically the huge sum gives him control of his next step.

Unfortunately, unless you think there’s any risk of them wanting to cut mahomes the next couple years- true specific move keeping the same dollars on the books is a trade of guaranteeing they will pay them for increased flexibility in how to account for them. Could spend them this year now, or roll them over and be in the same spot later as they were before. the only way the ink on paper here makes them weaker is if in the heat couple years you want to separate from the player and can’t reasonably. It’s all upside for this example though.

Checking the timeline it appears the Saints kicked the can straight into the year they are losing a hall of fame qb. Seems to me it’s a pretty excellent strategy to win now and rebuild when you don’t have a shot anyway. Pointing at them misses the point Happens to the best of us sometimes!

he’s in fact accelerating how quickly he’s getting all the same dollars. You’ve missed the mark completely here.

Yup The restructuring plus sitting out pretty much locked in this year. you can sometimes argue it’s fine to eat the dead money to save cash but his salary is fine for a player of his caliber this year.

there were definitely some self inflicted growing pains swept under the rug of “cleaning up the old regimes cap mess” i do think there’s been growth though.