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That's pretty irrelevant, actually. But fwiw, he's known as a very high character guy and hard worker. I think he went to the wrong team and won't win there.......... but he's kinda' reminiscent of Fred Dean........same size guy..........gifted pass rusher.........considered a malcontent in San Diego because he wanted to get paid........went to the Niners and everyone found out he was just a great player and good teammate.

Coming out of college.......Lindsay at 4.39 and Hunt at 4.62...........that's almost a quarter second difference and we've seen it with Lindsay's highlights.........he looks like the fastest back in the league in the open field. We've come to accept 4.5 as fast for RB...........I want real speed.........if he's healthy he's that. Not that his career trajectory is a lot better than Hunt's.........to me they are both guys who put up huge rookie years and are likely to flame out pretty quick..........but I prefer the cheaper, faster back in a walk year.....always a huge factor...........over the slower, more expensive one who knows that if he blows up the team will just pick up his roster bonus and he won't get a chance to get a big pay day.

I never saw that since he has been a Brown.......so I went to his 2019 and 2020 highlights on youtube and saw one such play........against Miami, not a fast flowing D. Hunt and Singletary are both 4.6 guys............Singletary is more efficient on the ground.......Hunt is better as a pass catcher. With all the undersized LB's in the league it's hard to get to the edge........Shady found that out in those transition years between Philly and Buffalo when Chipper got sick of him trying to bounce everything and then when he had to watch Karlos and MG break inside runs off for 5.5 ypc. The gap between the guard and tackle is the new "outside" in the NFL........and Singletary was quite good at that in 2019. We do need more speed because defenses have our entire running game timed up with two 4.6 kinda' backs.........but I don't see Hunt as that speed or quickness guy.

Do yourself a favor and read a post thru before responding with snark. I said Hunt has averaged a measly 4.2 ypc in his past two years......which is since he came back from his high profile suspension to join the Browns. You read it wrong and responded with snark.........I gave it back to you. If you are going to half read the post, inaccurately complain about the context and talk sh*t........ then don't whine when you get it back and your feelings won't get hurt.😘

I don't know the exact definition of "elite" back.........but what Hunt has done the past two season in Cleveland has not been anywhere close to that. When I watch him I keep expecting him to do more with the opportunities. To make those plays he made in KC. Decades of watching football tells me when you see that over a couple hundred carries.......that's what you got. From an analytical standpoint.......4.2 yards per carry represents exactly "replacement" level for a RB. His Y/R numbers in the pass game are way down from KC too. I like Njoku.........I'm a Hurricanes fan.......saw all of his games........but he's a tough fit on this roster as an "upside" option.........especially when Dawson Knox is kinda' like a rich mans version of him already. They need something different more than they need two similar ones.

Kareem Hunt = Shady McCoy ? No. The position is diminished and the quality of player at the position is also diminishing. A guy like Hunt would have entered the league as a backup 20 years ago.........there were lot's of quality backups back in the day and sometimes they got their shot and had a good year or two then flamed out. Hunt reminds me a bit of Barry Foster.........same build......good pass catcher........lead the NFL in rushing yards with 1690 at 24...........not much after that.

Leonard Fournette blew up the playoffs. He was a much better RB prospect than Hunt. Generational even. But he ran for 3.8 during the regular season and has been below league average in that regard all but the season prior to the Jags releasing him. He's a career 3.9. What I am saying is that you are making an enormous assumption when you project him to be much better than he has been in the last two years in Cleveland..........which is the only way he's worth a pick and $5M in roster space. Why you assume Njoku would re-work his guaranteed 5th year option $ when he is going into his walk year...........I don't have any idea. That's illogical. If Cleveland releases him......the option is void, it's only gtd for injury........then offer him a very cheap deal to like Daryl Williams. If not, not a fit. And I am sure Hunt would want more money to re-work his deal and, as I said, statistically he is not trending up he's treading water so fans probably shouldn't be in favor of that.

Hunt has been with Cleveland two seasons and Singletary has been in the league for two seasons..........you should ask those 10 year old's to do the math for you.

Hunt had 198 carries last year. Singletary had 156.

Again........$11M in 2020 cap space for those two. Don't be ridiculous. Kareem Hunt had almost 800 carries in college........he was a pretty explosive player his first couple seasons in the league..........since then, not so much. His per play production in Cleveland is WAY below those first two pre-suspension seasons in KC.......both on the ground and in the air. One of the things people need to adjust to is this idea that RB's don't hit the wall until around age 30............the RB position does not get the kind of athletes that it did when those numbers were reasonable to expect. There are some who say that 26 is the new 30 for RB's.....look at Leveon Bell as a Hunt-like example. But sometimes guys just lose that extra juice earlier than that. So I don't care what age Hunt is.......he's not some stud RB of yore.......his two years of diminished per play production and the amount of touches in his first 6 combined college and pro seasons support the idea that he is showing the mileage.

He'd make a pretty fair personnel man.........I'd like Dunlap and Rhodes in this defense.....the problem is it's hard to fit older players who aren't worth long term deals into tight salary cap spaces. Almost easier to sign a big $ Trey Henrickson to a 5-6 year deal than Dunlap to a 2 year deal.

It's all just discussion but $11M in cap space and a second round pick is a big investment in those two.....seems pretty unrealistic. Njoku is a talented player who can't get his sh*t together despite being in a good offense and them badly wanting him to..........Hunt is a lot of baggage and not a lot of actual running back.........he's literally a league average runner the past 2 seasons(4.2) versus the seemingly pedestrian Singletary (4.8). Yes Hunt is an improvement as a receiver but he isn't some HR hitter at this stage of his career.

Fwiw.......that was Ray Rice's ONLY reported off field violence issue. Hunt has had multiple.........the fact that he didn't succeed in knocking the woman he assaulted unconscious in this one instance of violence of multiple should not put him in a different classification.

Oh you know I value CB play WAY above RB...........I like Levi but I am not certain he is even in their plans. If they give him an original round tender........I think he's gone. For nothing. Lindsay is a more explosive runner than Etienne........if he's healthy he could even be the lead back. And yes he was injured last year but all backs get injured. Etienne looked greatly diminished last year. Hunt has been a 4.2 ypc back each of the last two seasons. Nice player but if you want to add speed Lindsay is much faster.

Or maybe that they simply don't think they need to be much above average in the run game(they were 19th and stronger in some areas) and they can improve it with scheme. They literally had a RB who averaged 5 yards per carry as a rookie in 2019..........and still used a third round pick on another RB.........so I don't think adding another RB would be some admission that they think their RB's stink. My personal favorite is making a trade for Phillip Lindsay after Denver gives him a second round tender at a $3.4M cap hit. Do the same with Levi Wallace and swap players. Denver #1 need is at CB.....they need multiple....... and they play a zone system. That dude is legit fast and has also produced and it will be a walk year. Better than trading a good pick for Hunt and then paying him $5M cap hit next year.........$5M in cap space got JJ Watt in Arizona........it's a lot this year.

What should be taken away from KC is how they handled getting upset in their first AFCCG after the 2018 season. Their defense was bad. They didn't just run it back..........which is all that the Bills spending has accomplished so far this offseason...........the Chiefs aggressively attacked their personnel issues and won the SB the next season. Hopefully the Bills aggressively address their lack of pass rush from the front 4 and need for more playmaking ability on offense.

That is such a bad take. What he did was stupid and unacceptable..........the argument is whether or not he's paid for it...........and he was punished and served his punishment. That's the reasoning.......not that what he did wasn't so bad.

Njoku did next to nothing last year and has a $6M+ cap hit............that would require some major payroll restructures to create.........so what are you going to do? Sign him to an extension? What would it be worth for someone who has been a bust so far? And if it's not an aav of big $ per year why would he want to do that going into his walk year where he is looking to break out? I just don't see how Njoku is a fit in a trade scenario. And Hunt certainly isn't worth a second or third round pick.

They are in the position the Bills were in recent offseasons...........not seen as a real contender..........so they will have to pay a bit of a premium............but that shows that there is some normalcy in the market and that below market is still a discount at this point in free agency. That Barrett deal was a relative steal for the top pass rusher in the first wave of FA.

In a normal year I wouldn't have been surprised to see him get $25M aav but I thought he would get $20M aav at least this year. I mean Watt got $15M aav.

Looks like he took at least a $3M-$5M discount. No state income tax, but still.........great deal for Bucs.

How do you weight Melifonwu's very recently over-drafted bust of a brother against Melifonwu 2.0? Sometimes there seems to be a correlation, sometimes there isn't.........but those two are pretty similar athletes. When you see something like Star Lotulelei playing balls out in his rookie year and then cruise controlling and cashing checks for the rest of it (and then opting out knowing his $ was guaranteed)..........and seeing his bro decide not to play in the NFL when he wasn't lined up for a big rookie contract like Star.......perhaps sometimes the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

You stated it in a very nonsensical way...........improving in the areas they need to catch the Chiefs........pass rush and more explosiveness on offense.........wouldn't make them more vulnerable to defeat elsewhere........those are pretty universally desirable traits..........but yeah they need to focus on getting better as a whole more than specific matchups with KC. Example........don't reach over a stud LT prospect who could be a $20M player down the road to pick a gimmick player like Kad Toney or a RB like Etienne in round 1. We all thought Cordy Glenn was going to be the LT in Buffalo for 8-10 years.....rosters change fast in the NFL.

Toney reminds me of a much less accomplished/productive version of this guy: In college.........even at the highest levels.........elusiveness without speed works. Warrick was amazing..........but he wasn't fast(4.58)..........he had a decent pro career.........sorta' Cole Beasley like production at WR and a solid punt returner(where making the first guy miss played).............but he never really materialized into that kind of big play guy in the pros that you expect from a 1st round pick. I suspect Toney is more of a 4.5 guy as well........he doesn't look fast on tape. Elusiveness without speed in the NFL is Devin Singletary..........it may work if they aren't expecting it.........but once they get some tape on you defenders just make sure not to over-pursue because they know you can't run past them if they don't.

No, he is just a RB...........and a running back with a lot of mileage.