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Some of the angles people take......."I didn't know this was a political board" when they are rapid to get political...........or my new personal favorite is the ginned up "half of my family is in medicine".

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Oh hell.......you can find similar runs from Mike Gillislee and Karlos Williams in that offense. That offense was VERY RB friendly........like the current Baltimore offense. People remember some of Karlos big runs but also MG had runs of 44, 50 and 60 in 2015 and 2016. McCoy left hundred of yards on the field in his first season in Buffalo by refusing to follow the dance steps of Roman's inside zone rushing attack..........he admitted as much and bought into the gameplan in 2016.....and even though he was physically diminished from the 300 carry guy he had been in Philly by that point he had a GREAT season..........but so did whoever filled in for him. McCoy was mostly a celebrity in Buffalo. They got some nice performances out of him and once he got his act together he was a solid teammate but Roman's offense was going to produce big time anyway and once McDermott got there McCoy was washed up. That was ultimately an astonishing amount of money to waste on a RB to get one excellent season out of 4.

Quick, give this guy a $40M deal

And the funny part about that is that it's not anything I haven't been preaching for two decades on TSW. Years of pointing out the astonishing running tally on drafts that the Bills had neither used their first #1 pick to draft a QB or trade up from it to do so.........McBeane ended that and how is that working out? Years of pointing out that you couldn't do worse than the Bills were doing if you just used your first round pick on a QB every year............and then they prove that by finally making the playoffs with only the ineffective Shaq and the most recent #1 Tre White on the roster after 17 years of high picks. Perhaps you should have been agreeing earlier.

The literal ***** problem is that there wasn't going to be a normal in 2021......and maybe much longer......without people getting vaccinated. There are worse things than Beasley retiring and the Bills getting their money back. This year is probably it for him in Buffalo anyway.

Actually, the Bills bought into getting Shady to buy into Buffalo. Tearing up his existing Philadelphia deal and adding like $25M in guaranteed money. And then...........in a move I've never seen before or since..........McBeane gave him a $2M bonus in the summer of 2017 to buy his loyalty. In return Buffalo got a disappointing first season...........an excellent season in an offense that inflated rushing stats...........and then a well below league average ypc performance in 2017. Not even going to go into 2018. So they paid an average of well over $10M per year for one exceptional season. One can't criticize Whaley and his handling of the salary cap and say that McCoy was a good acquisition without being utterly hypocritical.

Both entirely true statements in the context of the NFL regular season.........and the thread was specifically about qualifying for the NFLDPOY..........to which only the NFL regular season applies. Again.........Tremaine Edmunds hasn't forced a fumble in his last 42 REGULAR SEASON games and has never recovered a fumble in the REGULAR SEASON..............if you don't make big plays you aren't going to win the NFLDPOY. Facts.........no carbon credits needed.

Josh Allen graced the field.......in the obligatory Blue Jays jersey but in front of a house full of Bills fans who are Yankees fans.......... and the Yanks played maybe their best game of the season in sweeping the Jays. Another Yankee MLB record.........1st major league team to turn 2 triple plays in a season. Judge robbed a HR.........Gio with a great play at 3B........Torres nice work at SS..........great defensive game. Would have liked to see Allen take batting practice.

CB Buckner might have called that pitch a strike.

Nah, you could buy Andro powder(with yohimbe bark!) at the Summit Park Mall GNC back in the late 80's. Anybody that walked in looking for a post-lifting protein powder was getting recommended this andro product and being told it was not a steroid. So athletes from HS on up were already using it. But I get your point......the rationale is pretty random.

It's a low profile 3 wheel motorcycle. That's how they get around all the safety requirements of a car. Last I knew you needed a motorcycle license to drive one in NYS. Where Diggs lives I think a regular class D works.

Before or during last season at any point. Obviously. Seasons matter.........you don't just not even try to fill a position in the NFL in a season where you are competing for a SB berth just because some player might come back next season. They didn't even have a 1 tech option on the practice squad last season. It's not been a priority..........and Star's contract was adjusted in the winter of 2020 to facilitate his release after the 2020 season. Instead they get the version of Star that is a year older(will turn 32 this season) and won't have played in a game in 20 months if and when he suits up again next.

The question is why you think they would when they have continually showed no interest in filling Star's position with another stay-at-home type DT?

@Thurman#1's "HEEEEEEEEEEAT Maps" moment is likely to happen this summer.........he has piled up so much BS this offseason that TSW might need to buy some carbon credits to avoid an emissions fine.

The drought did damage, that's for sure. And much of it was the kinda' damage only having a superstar QB could fix. I mean, if the team had picked up a journeyman QB and made a surprising one-and-done run to a SB victory like Philly a few years ago it wouldn't have generated the kind of interest that having a star young QB on what looks like a regular playoff contender does. As much as we focus on the end goal of winning the SB........the journey with a great young QB in tow is actually a lot more compelling to the fanbase.

I mean........some fans like @eball didn't stay the path and dropped their season tickets etc............but for most of us, did we really have much of a choice? I get that you are trying to give props to the fanbase.........and we definitely deserve it.........but patience is absolutely not a virtue when it comes to getting a QB and not all of us were lucky enough to survive the drought and see the team FINALLY get back to contender status again.

Star's return allowed them to focus on DE in the draft? That's an instant classic.

Thanks for the post and Allen deserves that.......it's fun having a great young QB. But getting a star young QB had nothing to do with patience. Patience did cause them to miss on SB champions and future HOF'ers like Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes, though. So let's not create any false narrative that it had anything to do with patience. When the Bills finally made a playoff appearance in 2017........despite the better part of two decades drafting in the top half of each round..........the only one of their first round picks they had on the field that day was the most recent one.......Tre White. The lesson to be learned from those 17 seasons was probably that the most overrated asset in the NFL is a first round pick NOT used on a QB when you don't have a franchise QB.

@Thurman#1 is a doozy.😆 He definitely would have been THAT guy adamantly defending Dick Jauron by comparing his record in his first 3 seasons in Buffalo to Bill Belichick's record in Cleveland.

Yep that was Morrissey. https://www.amazon.com/Morrissey-Rides-A-Cockhorse/dp/B0013AOUJS

I don't recall a back and forth with anyone named "Left Overture". What were you wrong about? And I definitely didn't ban you. I have never been a moderator on this site. Contrary to what you perceived it's unlikely you got under my skin.........I'm still actively posting here because I don't take it that seriously.........people quit posting because they get mad about the tenor of the board or what people are allowed to say to them or board politics etc.. That's more real estate than I am selling.

1) "Dude".......YES you can't be discussing Star retiring and NOT be discussing the fact that doing so would mean forfeiting $10M. It was never going to happen because of that. He can say whatever he wants.........talk is A LOT cheaper for Star than retiring. 2) No, I don't think McD is lying. He went out of his way to express displeasure about Star not showing up to any of the voluntary OTA's. This week he threw more shade on him by saying he had "a lot of work to do in the next month" to be ready for camp when he has had the past 18 months to get himself ready to play!😉 3) As usual you are looking at my opinion thru your hyper-emotional eyes. I am not you. The Bills are all entertainment to me. Win or lose. Same with TSW. What you see as emotionally "hell bent" is just me making legitimate arguments and/or making fun of a topic of interest to Bills fans. If discussing Star Lotulelei depresses you then you should ask your doctor about "less football". Maybe you wouldn't have regrettably dropped your 24 year season tickets after the 2016 season if you had your hobby in the proper perspective. The journey = the reward. Instead you had to hear me gloat about being at both home playoff games this past January while you were cryin' them tears of remorse into your pillow of regret.

No, it's simply common sense. $10M is probably in excess of 20% of what he's earned in his entire career to this point. Why would he just quit and forfeit that money when all he has to do to earn that is show up to mandatory team activities? Eric Wood is beloved among Bills fans.......an organization guy.......did he give back his unearned bonus money so the Bills could have that $10M in cap space back when he decided to retire due to concerns about his neck? Of course not. The issue with Star returning has been his lack of performance prior and what that will look like when he plays his next game 20 months after his previous one. The retirement or conditioning/overweight/underweight questions are just tiny, straw-stuffed tomato cans lined up to be easily kicked over by people who ultimately want to defend him for entirely different things.......performance.......performance for the money........and his rationale for opting out (knowing that his pay was guaranteed anyway). The diversion tactic is amusing to me..........like watching children mimic their parents interactions. Basic and often very comical. I'm fully expecting someone to start a narrative that Tremaine Edmunds might hold out of training camp for a long term deal just so we can all be SO relieved to find out that's not the case.

Yeah like I said, Ray Ray was killing McKenzie on the field in OTA's and TC........it was no contest.......and that's not just my observation from when I was there......he was getting hyped almost daily by the media. But in the games it was totally different. I'm not putting a lot of stock into a possession receiver making plays in a camp setting either..........that's actually been the most common example of misreads from OTA's in recent Bills WR history. I have seen Hodgins make contested catches in college so I assume that will still be something he can do to some extent..........but getting open was not a strength of his at that level so there is cause for pause IMO...........doing that and making plays in game type action has proven to be very different. I hope he forces the issue with his play but I certainly don't expect him to make the final 53. He could still end up on the practice squad....even if he plays well. The league is absolutely loaded with WR talent from the past few drafts so it's not like teams are going to be desperately searching for chain moving possession WR's. Hodgins is gonna' have to show quite a bit to get playing time in the NFL, IMO.