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No, you just aren't making a point. If you don't at least provide some comparative data to show how Singletary compares to other RB's in whatever fields you consider to be "situations that matter" then it's just you thinking that the musings of your imagination are reality. The league average per carry is 4.2 yards......and it's a little lower for RB's. Singletary has averaged 4.8 on over 300+ carries. His biggest problem may be a LACK of big run plays. So his numbers certainly aren't significantly padded by the result of some big runs. And when are they running all these draw plays on 3rd and 12? They had the fewest punts in the league last year.

Rookies don't hold out anymore. And that is not a recent development..........it's been multiple CBA's since the rookie wage scale was put in place. Not knowing this makes it look like you haven't really been paying much attention for the last decade or so. The perception that Rosenhaus is a hardballer adds another decade onto that. Times were much different then.......rookie wages weren't capped........and teams were not nearly as efficient at managing the salary cap. Rosenhaus has long been a pretty standard dealer and there are always Bills players whom he reps you just rarely hear him mentioned because that's not been his game for a long time.

Probably because having the perception that Rosenhaus is a some kind of controversial agent is so 20 years ago............which makes you look like a fair-weather fan.

No, his production is accurate in those regards. All backs get boosts from big gains or the occasional 3rd down give up.........which the Bills rarely do, btw. The only notable stat that helped inflate Singletary's production was a high tendency to run at 6 man boxes in 2019. There was a weird stat that indicated that Gore ran almost entirely against stacked boxes and Singletary got light ones. But nonetheless.......4.4 ypc in 2020 was still solid. Leonard Fournette has a career 3.9 ypc and he has ripped off 80 and 90 yard runs in his career.

In fairness.........a 3rd round pick is a "starting player/majority of carries" round for a RB nowadays..........and Beane used a 3rd rounder on a RB two years in a row.........that's not a guy that doesn't believe in investing draft capital in RB's. Can't be certain that they wouldn't have drafted one in the 1st round had they not already invested so much. Singletary and Moss are decent players but, predictably, they are picks that are very easy to be at least somewhat justifiably critical of. I had Singletary as the best back in the RB-weak 2019 draft...... and even I thought a 3rd was a full round reach at least. Individual RB's don't have much say in the outcome of games any longer so they gotta' be absolute beasts to be worthy of a pick in rounds 1-3.

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Again.......4.8 yards per carry on over 300 carries. It's not a 1990's RB room........the talent isn't at that position anymore.......but of the group he is the most traditionally "talented" of their RB's. Instincts, balance, elusiveness. He was not an ideal fit for their preferred run scheme last season but still was an above average producer on the ground. His offseason work seems to have been geared to becoming better within this scheme, one-cut and go, more like Breida/Moss/Williams. The run blocking is the much bigger issue. By the end of the season both Singletary and Moss were so accustomed to being met by an unblocked defender at the LOS that they were starting to anticipate the hit and how to avoid it and that hesitation started costing them yardage. Their trust in the OL was justifiably very low.

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No, it's Allen. I'd like to see them go to a more vertical passing offense eventually, but Daboll can't justify dialing up the shots if Allen doesn't put air under the throws and deliver with touch and timing necessary to stretch the defense. At this point he can throw thru the defense, but not over it. It's an important distinction. I understand it's lost on some but I've been thru that on TSW here before. When Chan Gailey's horizontal passing offense got figured out (by the Jets) and teams stopped worrying about Bills WR's running past them and jammed the underneath passing lanes..........fans on TSW insisted that it wasn't because teams didn't think Fitz could throw the deep ball........after all he had hoisted a 75 yard bomb to TO a couple years earlier. Yeah, he could throw the ball that far, but he couldn't command 15+ yard throws outside the numbers and defense's recognized it. Chan was cleverly covering up Fitz arm weakness by keeping the longer yardage throws in the middle of the field(where they were actually much shorter). Think David Nelson over the middle. The more difficult NFL throws.....outside the numbers for instance......he had to throw his whole body into them and that lead to inconsistent mechanics and accuracy. Eventually, after a lot of fighting with me the concept was grasped here on TSW when the media started talking about it.........but before that time even the distinction of how far you could throw the ball and command/control of that throw were not considered entirely different things by the TSW fanbase. The issue with Allen is even more unusual. He didn't grow up with a lot of high end instruction and because of his incredible arm he developed a habit of throwing everything hard. He never learned to put air under the ball because he didn't have to. But the NFL is different. Windows are tighter and learning how to put air under the ball and deliver it with timing and accuracy that way is a huge weapon to have. I know he worked on it last season with Jordan Palmer and I am sure he is working on it now. I think he can master it..........but it doesn't come natural to him. Becoming proficient at it will take a lot of wear and tear off of him and his WR's going forward. I compare it to LeBron James having to learn to shoot the 3 after years of just running thru and over weaker competition. He needed to become a proficient long range shooter to take the beating off of his body and extend his career.

1) I agree about Brown. I said in-season the threat of his speed was missed. My hope is also that Sanders is the guy catching the 8 yard passes in front of the sticks and taking all those hits instead of Diggs...........and that Stefon is utilized more vertically like he was in Minnesota. Completely on the same page there.........I just would like to see a bigger, faster Z long term. 2) And sure, Allen is technically average on long throws.......which isn't good enough for a player with his skillset either.........but as @dave mcbride has also pointed out many times he can throw on a rope what qualifies as a deep ball for most. The Allen TD throw to Diggs at the end of the Arizona game is a prime example. That is a near impossible throw for some but a sweet spot for him. That ability statistically masks the issue. On deeper air throws....or just going over the top.....he throws a flat and inaccurate ball. +40 yards in the air should be a thing for the strongest armed QB in the NFL. But they are not. He's among the worst in that small subset........but it's meaningful for him because his range is effectively capped by the lack of RAC potential in his deeper throws. If you are defending Aaron Rodgers a 30 yard air throw to Adams is liable to hit a receiver in stride and lead to a 50 yard house call if you are squatting.......so you are going to give extra space. Not just on 3rd down.......all day. This is why it's, IMO, the biggest obstacle left for Allen as a thrower. His check down throws to the left.......that would be nice to fix and shouldn't be a challenge.......but the lesser impact of those on a per play basis makes them the lesser of two weaknesses. 3) The take regarding teams not respecting the Bills deep ball in the playoffs is of course a simplification of the overall issues......more than 1 adjustment was made.....but it's anything but revisionist. It was a next-gen stat theme heading into the Colts game.......worst deep ball defense in the entire NFL against a dynamic offense........that wasn't good at the deep ball. And true to form......despite ideal passing conditions........ the Bills couldn't exploit the Colts greatest weakness and the game turned into a real contest. The fear of the deep ball is getting beaten with a long throw that ends up in the endzone. The occasional long throw that turns into a contested type or no-YAC play in the middle of the field is not the same. Teams didn't respect the Bills over the top in the playoffs, which tightened up the coverage underneath. The Ravens played the Bills a lot like they had the year before.........their technique created opportunities for the Bills to hit a bunch big plays deep in both games and when they tried to exploit it they were just wasted downs. Weather played a factor but I don't think they changed their gameplan because of the wind. They also had great success letting Allen misfire on deep throws in the 2019 game.

Yep, the Chiefs absolutely crapped themselves. It was pretty standard Belichick formula when they are overmatched. They come out with a great game plan......play physical.......and watch the opponent stumble and panic themselves into a big hole. Then by the time the opponent re-gains their composure it ends up being too little, too late. The Bills offense doesn't equate at all to Marty Ball. You are simply drawing a conclusion based on a result. Or should I say "results". Both Bills/Chiefs games were abysmal performances by the Bills offense. Josh Allen isn't a slow processor and the offense isn't simplified for him.............his biggest weakness to this point has been a lack of touch on deep throws. The Colts, Ravens and Chiefs all identified that and squatted on the Bills passing offense in the playoffs. That allowed them to defend the Bills short passing game more effectively and physically. The Colts were literally the worst deep ball defense in football and on a beautiful, warm and windless day the Bills couldn't get over the top on them. It's something Allen needs to improve significantly on going forward.

It's not a simple offense at all. That's a bad football take. Putting Allen in a Patriots-style offense was a big risk versus a simpler scheme like San Fran/Green Bay style or the the Titans power/play action offenses but it's paid dividends. The Chiefs knew what was coming, but the reality is that the Bills were really the only team they had to be concerned with in the AFC. They had clearly spent a great deal of time studying the Bills tendencies while they cruised to home field advantage and had the bye. They had a great gameplan and the Bills team that had never been that far before was running on fumes. Mahomes and company crapped themselves in their first title game as well.........they should have beaten that Patriots team by 3 TD's.......and that was a home game. It happens. But look at the Chiefs other two games during these playoffs........against underdogs in their prior playoff matchups.........the Chiefs weren't as prepared to face those teams and it showed.

Yeah, just the bill for the Kelvin Benjamin, Eric Wood(DNP), Star Lotulelei, Trent Murphy and Tyler Kroft deals was in excess of $100M in cap hits. Bad players, non-players, low impact players........almost entirely wasted money that could have been available cap space in free agency this offseason. That's why you don't throw good money at bad.......even when you seem to have an abundance of it.

The bill for Beane's bad financial decisions.......especially early in his tenure.......basically came due this offseason. Every team took the same hit on the salary cap but those bad decisions in 2017-2018 really limited their options for improving the team relative to the rest of the league. But I think they had their most efficient offseason.........managed to improve the team on-the-cheap in UFA, IMO....... and drafted smartly. It may not be enough to improve the teams record or finish but I do think the team is improved.......and are at least on a more sustainable trajectory.

Thinking being a young team is an advantage is an outdated, ignorant idea from 30 years ago when teams had control of players for the first 7-8 years of their careers. You can only hold onto young players inexpensively for 4 years now.........you gotta' turn a program around fast and just trying to stack young players is not very smart. The Bills are a bit off balance on the old side, but the way they chose to re-tool the team put them in position to make a lot of money mistakes. But you are wrong about the Bills having made a dent in their average age. The math isn't that hard........say you bring back 40 players and the next 11 are the same average age as those you replaced........then your roster is .75 years older. Which is A LOT of age movement on the scale. It takes a lot of age movement downward in that bottom 11 to move that big of a number. So yeah, they cut 28 year old Quinton Jefferson........but replaced him with 29 year old Efe Obada. They cut 29 year old Winters and replaced him with 27 year old Forest Lamp. They cut 30 year old John Brown and replaced him with 34 year old Emmanuel Sanders. Tyler Kroft turned 28 last season, Jacob Hollister turns 28 this season. Nskehe turned 35 last season.......but Star is back and he turns 32 next season. 122 years to 122 years. Net zero difference. If they add an Ertz or a Richard Sherman maybe that adds a little to the total but really the big number is mostly the team just getting a year older. They will be one of the oldest teams in the NFL.

That's a cute way to do it. But then there is reality. The Bills have dedicated A LOT of roster space and cap dollars to older, veteran reserves. Consider $10M spent on reserve OT Ty Nsekhe, $12.5M on reserve LB AJ Klein, another $14M spent on negative contributing reserves like Josh Norman, Spencer Long and Brian Winters just to name a few. To say nothing of $90M spent on "intended" starters like Star Lotulelei, Trent Murphy and Tyler Kroft. When you say a team is young........the obvious assumption is that they have an abundance of cap space...........and that certainly is not the case because they have tossed around a lot of money on guys who did not play a lot of snaps. Bringing back most of the team makes you, for the most part, a year older. Adding a 34 year old Emmanuel Sanders and/or a Zach Ertz is going to raise your average age. The Bills roster is not going to be younger this season.........they will probably fall around 5th-8th oldest roster in 2021.

I remember hearing that Bojo was very interested in his punting distance numbers and that was at odds with what the Bills wanted him to do........purportedly more hang time and less return-ability.

Well done by Erik Turner. About the only thing he didn't touch on was the impact of his massive hands in making so many of his plays. Rousseau's hand size would be among the largest in the NBA......nearly identical hand span to the currently most famous set of huge mitts owned by "The Claw" Kawahi Leonard. He is great at locating the ball and flattening to not exceed the QB's depth.........but his ability to snare and trip up players that seem too far away to be impacted by a hand swipe is remarkable in itself. The stat about the bills DL missing so many tackles was really an unspoken problem.........a lot of credit has been given for getting pressures......but being a bad finishing team behind the LOS has been a problem since the last days of The Cold Front. As I said during the draft process, Rousseau is an unusual talent and has a chance to put up much needed TFL numbers despite not looking like a traditional edge bending DE.

My bad.........I should have known somebody would turn the Ertz thread into a Tebow story even though the guy is 33 years old, has little experience at TE and couldn't even stay healthy playing baseball.

Focused on youth? The Bills have one of the oldest rosters in the NFL. It's funny how fans come up with these totally incorrect narratives.

In 2016 that was the case......but not the first season under Roman when they lead the NFL in rushing in 2015.......when MG and KW ran for 784 yards and 10 TD's........McCoy ran for 895 and 3 TD's and did so at a full yard less per carry. The lesson was.......follow the play design LeSean........the blocking was there. He did in 2016 and it paid dividends but even then MG lead the league in both ypc and in short yardage conversions (which would seem to be a counterintuitive combo) so they weren't sacrificing a thing handing it off to the non-star. It really was mostly about the blocking and the RB following the dance steps laid out by design. That kind of production has continued for Roman in Baltimore with a variety of backs. When the Bills went to outside zone in 2017 the extra time or wider design challenged McCoy's new found discipline and he reverted to some bad habits and he struggled......but more importantly so did the OL which had a harder time reaching their blocks. I don't know if they've done enough to improve their running game.........but they have added some intriguing scheme fits. I would love to see them maybe send SF a 5th for Raheem Mostert.....a pending UFA.......and deal one of their other backs for a 7th. SF might do it, Shanahan is arrogant about RB's.....he just drafted two.......and Mostert is cheap for a huge per carry RB but not minimum wage. That would give the Bills maybe the two fastest RB's in the NFL. But still comes down to blocking.

Yeah their RB's and OL are a hodgepodge of players who best fit different styles. But much like I look at the DL moves since last August and see a team that seems to want to use 4 pass rushers most of the time..............I see the moves they made this offseason and all the new acquisitions seem to fit the outside zone run scheme. I'd prefer inside zone. Moss would be better there, but he is familiar with outside zone so he seems more comfortable than Singletary was. I was a big fan of it when Roman/Lynn were here. And I'd also prefer the passing offense to be more vertical. I am a huge fan of the deep ball and big plays and I believe getting Stefon Diggs tackled hard by downhill pursuing defenders 100+ times per year is at best a recipe for a diminished WR corps in January......and also isn't how you want to use an investment like that, ideally. But they seem to want to run outside zone and throw a high volume of short to intermediate passes. It worked last year, so I've adjusted my expectations to what I think they will do.

Yeah they need to block for the run better to have a better running game. Breida and Moss are natural fits in outside zone, so they have that at at RB at least. When they were far and away the top rushing team in the NFL under Rex Ryan, they got a ton of yardage and their most per-touch production out of Mike Gillislee and Karlos Williams, who weren't exceptional RB's. I could see them trading Singletary or Moss in camp......they aren't bad RB's........but they won't bring much in return. IMO RB isn't even a notable weakness for the Bills.........for a variety of reasons, the reality is that the difference in game-impact between having a great RB and a couple average one's isn't that significant. Block and execute.

Yes, false equivalences, as in implying that defense's fear Moss and Williams by saying they don't fear Singletary. They don't fear any of them. Williams and Moss are both physical runners but that's about the end of the comparison. Moss is outstanding at pass protection, that's his greatest trait as a pro RB. Who knows about Williams instincts and prowess in pass pro, unlike Moss he didn't play much in college even. He was the kind of back UNC took off the field on 3rd down and he has only had a handful of passes thrown his way in his college and pro career. What Williams lacks isn't quickness or speed, it's general athleticism and elusiveness. He's a stiff, straight ahead runner without change of direction or change of speed skills. Doesn't take a great talent to succeed in a well-blocked outside zone scheme though. Singletary isn't a natural fit for outside zone, but he's easily the more athletic and scheme versatile RB between he and Williams. It's not close.