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True. And if Daboll can still get a job after that 6 point debacle against the winless Jags..........I think a team can squint at Dorsey's job on MNF on 9/11 and consider that Reid and Mahomes also struggled there in a less hostile environment a few weeks later.........and basically put no weight on it.

Oh SQUATeam...........ye of little faith........Yanks finish the season with best record in MLB over the last 5 weeks and your hopes of a Yankees losing season were dashed. Predictably.........because that's how I am sure life always goes for you. Also @4merper4mer the random bandwagon Cardinal fan got to enjoy a team that finished an abysmal 71-91...........victims of the balanced schedule after decades of feasting off of half-invested competition in the NL central. But........no more time for you losers: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-clinch-winning-record-with-win-no-82-despite-disappointing-season-extend-streak-to-31-years/

I think the ultimate issue is actually that there will be 8 or so HC openings..........that's the norm........so he doesn't have to be the perfect candidate. Nobody thought Daboll was going to get a HC job late in the 2021 season after a series of abysmal performances by him in the middle of that season.

That was my thought. He didn't have any turnover worthy plays but was still making some incredible throws. Took a couple field goals instead of pushing the ball into traffic. Also important that he not look to throw to his ball droppers Gabe/Knox/Shakir on 3rd downs (other than Shakir on that low % deep shot that he put right on the money).

Meh, it's not like Armstead is a pillar of stability for them. He missed 14 games his past two seasons entirely and exited seemingly every other one in between for parts of those games. He missed the first two games of this season as well.

Evans agent wants him to be paid like a top 5 receiver..........that's why Tampa hasn't extended him.........you've followed his situation close enough you should know that $15M per ain't gonna' cut it. OBJ and DHop were damaged goods for whom there was some question whether they would bounce back..........Evans is nowhere near Adams as a WR at this point(he had almost 400 less yards and 8 less TD's last season) but he is still an actual 1,000 yard high producing WR.......... so OBJ and DHop aren't comps. So yeah, I think the impending free agent Evans will cost the Bills a lot more than the just $20M in cap hits that Adams would over the next season and a half. As for Adams seeming like something or another.........he wasn't a problem in Green Bay. He wanted to get paid but all WR's do. The idea that he couldn't share the spotlight with Diggs(or the opposite) is baseless speculation.

Why would an expiring contract Gabe Davis have any value at all to a team that's not in contention? If you are going that route it has to be a 3 team trade that would send Davis to a contender. But Davante Adams is at worst the 2nd best WR in the NFL......literally 3 straight first team All Pro seasons.......and is still in his prime and absurdly good.........suggesting that just a second round pick and an expiring contract would even be a remote possibility is just ignorant. As for the cap.........the cap can work for Buffalo.........his deal can be re-structured in 2024 because his 2024 cap number is low enough to be adjusted with some void years and a signing bonus. After that you release him or tear up his deal and give him a new one. It was clearly intended to be a 3 year deal when signed in 2022 just with incredibly large team options starting in 2025 which would necessitate a re-negotiation or his release. The Raiders are the ones who would have a hard time figuring out the cap hit to them.........not the Bills.

As much as I like Evans I think you are a bit dug in on this idea if you wouldn't prefer the GREAT Adams to the very good Mike Evans........and also think acquiring an impending free agent would be better for the budget than a guy like Adams who would have only about $20M in cap hits combined in 2023-2024. Mike Evans is probably looking for something like 4 years $80M+ on the open market.

His base salary for this season is $6M so if they acquired him at mid-season the Bills would only need around $3M in cap room. If he's awesome, you re-work his deal or just add some void years to it to keep him next season because the deal he signed in 2022 was really just a 3 year deal. If he continues to be one of the 2 best WR in the entire NFL for both of those years then you consider re-working his deal when his cap hits get crazy. The issue is entirely with how the Raiders would create room on THEIR end.

Consider it constructive criticism. The upside is that, regarding your football takes, there is nowhere to go but up for you. I've given @Alphadawg7 credit for his improving process because I am objective. That's all. I don't care if he likes it or hates it. If it's logical, entertaining and/or improves the quality of conversation it's a good thing.

Yeah I heard you the first time..........like I said........you shouldn't have got sucked in even for that moment. After 3 years of the same issues and tons of film identifying his talent deficiencies it should have been abundantly clear. It's not for lack of hardwork or buy-in etc...........the guy just isn't talented enough to be a high end WR2 for a SB contender.

@Alphadawg7 has potential because he is thinking it thru and trying to figure it out. He shouldn't have believed for a second of this offseason that Gabe was anything more than what he's proven to be in his first 3 years because his deficiencies are not necessarily fixable. Sometimes there just isn't enough talent. But better to come to that realization late than never. You on the other hand........you are just good with being wrong and defiant about it, from what I've seen.

SF, Miami, Philadelphia, Cinci and Seattle all clearly have two dynamic WR1 talents as their second receiver. That's 5 indisputable examples not 3. There are a bunch of other teams that have have two WR1 talents when both are healthy or if the QB play is even adequate. Some of them even have WR3's that could be fringe WR1's like Cinci with Boyd and Seattle with JSN. The Bills are not one of these teams. They have a very clear WR1 and a big drop-off to Gabe as a WR3 talent with clear limitations. So to imply that it's "unrealistic" to have a WR1 level talent opposite your primary target is not so.........it's closer to a 25% scenario than "unrealistic" and most of the teams that have such setups are SB contenders. Why you choose to look like a fool on hills like this and those of Star Lotulelei and Tremaine Edmunds etc.. is a curiosity.

Coming from you.........the official weird, personal over-sharer of this football message board........I think we may have to create a new analogy: "The pot calling the water black".

Eh, it doesn't help him I'm sure but he just doesn't have good hand eye coordination so his hands don't make that subtle adjustment at the catch point to decelerate the ball and create that "soft hands" look. Davante Adams, for example, has smaller-than-Gabe 9" hands and his hands are great. Gabe had an astonishingly poor 10% drop rate last season..........Adams was at 3.9% last year after a couple years where he was sub 1% and sub 2% in 2020-2021.

Can Tre Flowers get flowers or is that like a hat on a hat scenario?

Agree with all of that except the "skill" part. Davis lacks the movement skills to excel at a wide variety of routes and has naturally hard hands. The latter is why he claps at the ball, IMO. He knows his hands suck so he's developed this weird technique that looks ridiculous when he drops the ball.........but at this point it seems likely that he is more comfortable catching the ball with his hands in motion than stationary like more highly skilled pass catchers. Gabe Davis is a hard worker but he's more of an overachiever than a guy with WR2 skill, IMO.

To think.........the Chiefs got a comp pick for losing Poles. He's been a terrible GM. Had he hit on his HC hire and the QB pick he might have survived this because that's basically how Beane survived some terrible pro personnel work and cap mismanagement early in his career..........but Poles likely will not. The Bears ownership is a patient bunch but the team/staff they have put together are a sh!t show.

It's over the top for sure but it goes both ways. The excuses made for Edmunds were so easily discredited that people like Shill Capaccio eventually turned to "you just don't know what you are watching" as an excuse. It was literally the opposite. The people who made those excuses literally did not understand what THEY were watching because they didn't understand how important instinct is at the MLB position.

You call yourself "streetkings" but the street would have 1 thing to say about Edmunds: He is juiceless..........and therefore useless. The more measured take is that he's a good player in a HOF player's body.........playing a devalued position that is generally easy to fill with average or better talent............and he played in a defense that funneled playmaking opportunities to him but he just couldn't make them.

Well there is a very simple, common sense solution to that: Play Gabe Davis 40%-50% of the snaps instead of 80-90%. He lead the Bills WR in snaps played last year and had 95% of the snaps in his lousy performance against the Jets in week 1. Gabe Davis is simply not good enough to deserve anything close to all of the snaps he gets. He is a player whose PT should depend on the matchups that they get..........and as long as he is WR2 he isn't getting favorable matchups against healthy/good opponents.

Bills biggest problem is a lack of playmakers in the pass game beyond Diggs. Just running more non-separators and ball-droppers out on passing plays doesn't resolve the issue of Gabe Davis or Dawson Knox not being able to elevate their games to be a top second option despite Allen being great. They both tend to need Allen to run around and buy time for them to make much of an impact. The Bills still need another very good WR to elevate their offense to the very top.

Shill Capaccio might have been the worst offender. That guy used to sing the praises of Edmunds and tell everyone they just didn't know what they were watching............and now he is pointing out how Edmunds lacked instincts and that's why he was so easily blocked and couldn't find the ball. Calling Edmunds out for his hands now too. Shill is the f#ckin' worst.

The deal Adams signed in 2022 is really more like a 3 year deal. He is great but nobody is accepting those $35M base salary cap hits from 2025 on. So you win with him this year and then either re-negotiate his contract or just add some dummy years to lower the $16.9M hit in 2024.

Yeah that's the stock answer. But remember that sometimes teams select 1st and 2nd round picks that end up being inactives and sometimes a second round pick gets traded for a swap of late round picks. Not naming any names. Adams is a pretty amazing football player. He's actually better than Diggs, who is GREAT. They could recover from losing a couple picks for a nearly unstoppable player like that.