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C ... I don't care about football at all anymore except for the Bills.

Generally I would see a big win by GB. But I think this will go a lot like Denver. GB will have a big lead at halftime and will coast in the 2nd half more worried about running the clock than the score which allows the Bills to get the score closer than the game actually is. GB 38 Bills 28

Both of the ones by Gay were those stupid kick it to himself ones that both times didn't go the 10 yards. Unless Gay shows the coaches something this week during practices to make them believe he can at least give the team a chance, I'd say give Carpenter a shot if it gets to that this week.

Orton is a slight upgrade over Manuel at best? Man, we sure have a different opinion of Manuel's ability at this point. What they gain by playing Orton, in my opinion anyway, is the possibility (small as it might be) of eking out 2 more wins and getting to 9-7 which just might save some coaching asses. If they play Manuel they could much more easily lose out and end up below .500 yet again. Playing Manuel makes sense to me as well for the long term. But I suspect Marrone is not looking long term right now. He is looking to have a job next season.

Calls, correct as well as incorrect, always have an impact. But to think that for 15 years or more that [nearly] every game the calls go against one particular team goes against the laws of probability and would require some outside influence. I do not want to call out anyone in particular, but you can find threads like this as well as others after nearly every game. More after the losses. I am mainly just wondering what people who think this way think is the explanation for the outside influence, because I do not think that way personally.

So, it would seem that a lot of people here comment that the officiating is biased against the Bills almost every game. Even the wins. Do you chronic anti-officials posters think there is a conspiracy against the Bills, a subconscious (or not) bias by the officials against a team that has been mediocre to bad for 15 years, or what is your explanation for the constant anti-Bills officiating? Or maybe is it just therapeutic post-game venting?

??? What could it have been?

As much as it might hurt to admit it, at 24-3 in the 4th, Denver was happy to give up the underneath stuff to burn clock. They also almost exclusively ran the ball, again to burn clock. I think they underestimated the Bills O a little and expected their D to keep the Bills out of the endzone which made the score a bit closer than they would have liked at the end. But the 4th quarter was all garbage time.

I agree that this team is close to turning the corner. But not there yet. IMO, the Bills need 6 things: 1) Starting QB 2) Starting QB 3) Starting QB 4) A young Fred Jackson 5) Upgrades to the OL 6) Better OC and HC No reason to blow it up. Get the required upgrades which should be possible (QB is of course much harder), sit back and enjoy as fans.

8 - 8 which is what I have believed for a while now. But if Orton lays down in the Oakland game like he did yesterday, and the Bills commit as many brain dead penalties as they did yesterday, 7-9.

I doubt it was premeditated. But it was clearly deliberate.

Vibrant cities with great weather can have trouble with attendance. There is way too much else to do on a Sunday afternoon better than sitting on your ass and drinking watching a game when you can DVR it for later.

The only one that matters is the first one. The rest added together only add up to 3.4%.

I could not possibly care less about the Jills.

BellyCheat stop spying on this Bills forum!!!!!!!!!!

This kind of attitude is puzzling. Who is stopping you from "rooting" for the Bills to make a playoff run? Plus just because people think the Bills are likely to lose does not mean they wouldn't love it if they won and will be "rooting" for them to do so. Does every post here have to be that the Bills are going to win every game? As to the 1 win season thing, worked out about as well as those predicting a 15 win season.

No, ESPN is straight up. Maybe the same reason Ditka is picking the Bills

Equate it to going for it on 4th and 30 when you are behind by 14 in the 4th quarter. If you hit it, you still have a chance of winning. If not, you were going to lose anyway. If the Bills win, Ditka gains one on everyone else. That's the reward. That actually is a really good point too

Nate Silvers Elo Rating: 79% chance that the Bronco's win. (http://fivethirtyeig...d-playoff-odds/) Chance of making the playoffs: 6% CBS With Spread (Bills +10.5): 6 take the Bills and 2 take the Broncos CBS Straight Up: All 8 plus the computer take the Broncos ... shocking I know . (http://www.cbssports.../straight-up/14) ESPN: 12 and the computer take the Broncos and 1 (Ditka) take the Bills. (http://espn.go.com/nfl/picks) Microsofts Cortana: Broncos win, 77.8% chance (http://www.businessi...week-14-2014-12)

With the crown of his helmet? (OK, OK, just kidding )

Sadly, it is very unlikely we will ever know.

Where is the "The OP was really high when he thought of this poll" option.

Denver 34 Buffalo 17 (including 1 defensive TD)

This.

Unbeatable ... hardly. Beaten by the Bills in Denver ... highly unlikely. Hence the 10 point spread. Vegas needs that much to entice some gamblers to take the Bills.