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it's a football discussion group and everyone wants to turn over every stone...so yes. historically, as well, yes.

@GunnerBill what am i missing about leftwich's passing game? it was pretty well respected by others as well up until last year.

I think he has interesting concepts in the passing game. That's all I want. I think he can create short timing routes. Maybe I'm wrong but I had seen interesting ways to get the passing game to work for an aging Brady.

i'm ready to start throwing ***** at the wall. i'd love byron leftwich to come in as a passing coordinator. greg roman to come in as a run game coordinator. together with dorsey i think there could be a good 3 headed monster where we would hopefully keep brady and add webb to speak coach speak to josh. i truly wonder joshs ability to grasp complex offensive systems, etc. the guy never played a high college position, has limited ability with top tier staffs. this isn't a knock. he's done well with his limited exposure. if arians is willing to be a consultant, even better. i am curious when the nfl will start looking at coaches as off the shelf ready. in the post season leftwich and roman were fired. roman had success against the bengals. why wouldn't the bills be willing to bring him in for a 2 week contract to advise on tendencies and strategy against a former division rival? a good head coach can manage all of the talent to make things work together - regardless of how many people and their accolades. dabol wanted him. it's no secret. daboll didn't divide the locker room as much as mcdermott let there be room for division because of his lack of accountability on the "process." to explain that - he preached all this bull#### but never held those in his fold to the same standard. folks like hughes, mckenzie, others were held to a different standard because they were not mcd guys.

not in the same way. anyone who knew football knew what was going to happen in phili. then they got aj brown. eagles are going to havea couple good years ahead with great talent. if you look at who did what with what with qb getting alot of weight its shanahanana

i'd listen to a whole lot more than josh on any decision made for the offense. i'll expand this. josh is a raw QB still. he is from a JUCO and Wyoming. He's had, essentially, 1 OC his entire pro career. he's never had top shelf talent like other QB's like other NFL prospects have had. he has not seen top shelf coaching staffs, high end systems, etc. if josh had time in a system at alabama, georgia, clemson, ohio state, usc, etc. where there was true nfl high end coaching talent i would give him a little more weight in a decision. but he's 5 years into an nfl career and not coming off a year which has the highest of confidences enabled. he is the qb for our future and has at least 4-5 years more to contribute - similar to what the average OC might tenure. josh can have an opinion and share it but this is a system which needs a whole scheme and not just focused on josh.

History would say no Every HC and QB have been 5 yrs or less together Never had a coach and QB won it when together over 5 years. Ever

This hot take on cutting Morse is bad. Centers are a tough position. We would have to invest a 1st round, maybe 2nd or get a top end FA. Whatever we do we don't need to listen to Josh and his opinion on coordinators and coaches, let alone players.

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Not when linebackers aren't even linebackers anymore. Pass rush specialists are labeled linebacker. Von Miller insists he is a linebacker so he can wear a number. This nonsense hikes the cap up on positions like linebacker for no reason. I hope the NFL cracks down on this.

No. Try reading more thoroughly. They should have known Johnson and Lewis were no suitable at safety. It was shown in preseason Lewis is a specialty role player, good for nickel. Johnson is not to NFL calibre. We had 2 safety the wrong side of 30, suffering injuries the last few years. Depth should have been a key point to this team. They did good with Hamlin and his depth.

I was nearly ready to fire McDermott two years ago. I 100% was pushing this last year, and promoting dabol

I am curious to see the comparison of people who thought everything was okay this year and now for reacting... How many of those wanted OBJ?

i can only say from the tuning in late experience.... that this is weird. on a related note i am sick of the nfl letting the position games be so ***** up. that edmunds is talleyed up like von miller is because von wants to wear a special jersey number is ridiculous. the nfl needs to address players being listed at their proper position so compensation is correct, especially for tags.

uh. injuries happen but you must have a contingency plan. and not all of the errors listed involved injuries. in fact, the overwhelming majority of points raised did not address injury problems, did it, huckleberry? 4 straight years of McDermott being out coached, under prepared, fielding a soft team. We had to bring in Beasley and brown to make up for lack of planning while letting hodgins walk and piss poor scouting at wr. not due to injury We had to bring in Klein to shore up depth due to our draft sucking not due to injury We had to trade for Marlowe after injuries because we didn't evaluate talent at safety... not due to injury - jaquan johnson and our depth sucked. this was a guy we let walk because we thought we had better talent already. Same for signing Rhodes from the street. not due to injury - our depth sucked We rotated a handful of PS guys to elevated game status while drafting tons of DL. not due to injury Yeah. This team is ***** fabulous. It starts this year with the coach who clearly can't evaluate talent. ---edit ----- Since it keeps being pointed out We also brought in Hines and never utilized him fully. The returns were flukes and there were multiple penalties ignored not due to injury We brought back Lawson and Phillips when we should have kept them. While letting Hughes walk. not due to injury We brought in OJ Howard for a 2TE system and didn't even use 1 TE fully. not due to injury We traded Moss mid season too late. not due to injury injuries happen and of those we were banged up on the DL but not enough that i think it changed the outcome of any game except miami 1. that was a ridiculous situation.

well, this is a really well thought out reply. maybe i will load some barrels up on you and your replies to sting you a little bit. that'll be fun. regardless, yes, coaches must take into account what happens when players get injured. we did with hyde - then hamlin happened. i don't hold that against anyone. but having to get marlowe just to hold things over was weird, worthless. in your drivel what points exactly do you contest?

center is a very important position we cannot just simply replace with a 3rd round draft pick.

Also didn't mention Moss being sub JAG to bring in Hines without using him. His KO returns for TDs were flukes, honestly. There were holds all over on the 1.

That's the problem. We will make it. We will get 11-12 wins. We don't have to win a playoff game. We won't fire McDermott because we keep getting so close. But McChump will never get us over the hump to win. Mark my words. The team doesn't like his schtick and knows he's full of ***** with "the process."

No one let out what happened in KC, Jacksonville, or San Diego.

Will you stop beating me if I promise I'll have a better attitude about it?

Sabres more likely to win than Bills

Except bills are tied with the chiefs for favorites to win the 2023 super bowl by Vegas odds That's 2 yrs in a row we are off season super bowl champs!!!!!

They'd rather ask the ugly girl to prom to go to the dance then ask the prom queen because being at the prom is good enough.