Mr. WEO

absolute nonsense.

Mahomes (as you pointed out), Hurts and throw in Jackson, whos' typically in the 70's or so--the differences are insignificant and therefore it's easily imaginable. Your premise is faulty--it doesn't have to do with the "Offense he is expected to provide". Allen's INT% alone is higher than Mahomes, Jackson or Hurts---or Cousins (who accounted for 75% of Vikings yards last year) or.... then his INT rate should be as low as any of them. that would require 2 new threads

not unimaginable.

come on. you think it was all "Joe Schoen"? These arguments that HCs don't have a huge say in assembling their rosters are always dumb---but especially in this case. Schoen is a nobody.

Since he entered the league in 2018, Josh Allen has more turnovers than any other player (91).

the topic is NFL MVP, not which Offense is in the top 10. By your logic, Tua should be handed the MVP right now.

Daboll and Beane's Dunkin Donuts coffee boy decided to pay a less than mediocre Jones for that one win over Minnesota--and they both assembled the team on the field. They finished last 9 games 3-6. They won 2 of their last 5 (playoffs included) and 3 of the last 10 games they played----this after a 7-2 start. Now you are saying can't blame Daboll because every QB he put on his roster sucks? As CBiscuit pointed out, other HCs are doing ok with worse. Daboll was a figment of Josh Allen. Nothing more.

He's still not 2019 (insanely good year to get MVP) or 2020 Lamar. He'll struggle to break 20 passing TDs at this rate. Still running a lot. Tua is at 70%, 2600 and 19 TDs.

another missed point...

this is Lamar every year. Then he's gone.

What would the Giants record be with Daboll's franchise QB Danny Dimes be in those 4 games? What more evidence does this board need to show that Daboll is not HC material. Last year's COTY award was the worst selection ever. He lead the team on a second half of the season freefall, yet still made the playoffs. Beat the worst D in the league with Jones playing a once in a lifetime game. Then got destroyed the next game. Awful since.

no i meant Mack. The Chargers still stink. Worst D in the NFL.

That was Josh Allen as well last night.

Mack is a great example of why bad teams should not give away assets for one dominant Defensive player. He only plays for losers. Zero impact signing every where he went.

11 games with him: 18 ppg (8-3) 5 games without him: 17 ppg (5-0)

lol, typical post loss thread. I love this place!

Brown and Sanders?? Lol

Daniel Jones=worst QB contract in NFL history

Kincaid 10 catches for 50 yards

Gabe had his man beat by 2 steps

what message? Win a SB or I’ll replace you all with SB winners?

well....more Elam threads, obvs!!!

for at least the past 5 years.

so.....paper tigers?