Mr. WEO

agreed. he's simply not his own man

you are a regular here--this place constantly woofs on KC as a place for miscreants, criminals and addicts--yet this "culture" (presumably the opposite of the Bills) only produces AFCC and SBs. Are you saying that ANY culture (lawless or straight laced) is all that matters? That doesn't seem to make sense, but if true, wouldn't the Bills be better off adapting a "bad boy"/criminals in the off-season culture such as in KC? The one the Bills put forth seems to get axed by the Chiefs culture every year when it counts...

well, currently he's spending a lot of time defending his personality in pressers. how many other have had to do this? in college, he publicly called out his O-line, taunts opponents and jaws at refs, flashes his wealth, etc. google such: here's just one (Breer): "“I’m having a really hard time finding coaches or scouts who believe Sanders is a first-round talent, “What I keep hearing—and this has nothing to do with anyone having some personal issue with Sanders, or looking for him to fall in the draft so they can draft him—is that he isn’t a great athlete on tape, doesn’t have exceptional arm talent, and too often does things that simply won’t translate to the NFL game.” "Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders gave a blunt message to NFL teams who are considering passing on him in the 2025 NFL Draft. He’ll make note of it if he ends up falling to the Pittsburgh Steelers at No. 21 overall." Sanders said he is always going to be himself even though he knows that might rub some teams the wrong way." “That’s on the people,” Sanders said to Kay Adams on Up & Adams. “That’s on the other franchises that could make that mistake of letting me go there.” Imagine Rooney reading this before Sanders's visit, lol.... "“When I go visit these coaches and when I go to all these different franchises, I ask them truly what I think and how I feel,” Sanders said on the NFL Network’s The Insiders. “Some get offended, some like it, some don’t. Make some people uncomfortable, some people invite that." As Breer correctly points out, teams will ignore this kind of brashness, if the draftee is truly elite. There's a general agreement that Sanders clearly is not that. Plus, what owner wants to deal with his father--they will be a package deal. He's just not talented enough for this headache. Perfect fit?? Fans in the city would enjoy nothing more than feasting on a big mouth rookie who can't back it up. It would be over quick.

Youmleft out Tommy Cutlets---the only QB popular with the fans. Can you image the prospect of dropping the most immature top QB prospect since Johnny Manziel into that media market...along with his famously thin skinned old man?? This would be the fastest ticket out of The Meadowlands for the Giants' Abbott and Costello brain trust. This simply HAS to happen lol.

Cook your own meals. Never pay a cook.

What's the culture over there in KC been for the past 5 years?

I'm still not convinced Mara is pulling every string. It is at least as likely that Daboll and Schoen are too dumb to run a team with a Beane and Josh Allen. What QB could they draft next week that would produce a huge sigh of relief from their fan base? Side note: Schoen and Daboll put together that QB room.

Daboll looking over his shoulder, pulling down his hoodie....

The USFL failed 40 years ago. Every copycat since has also failed, for the same reason---there wasn't enough money in it. The owners initially agreed to a cap, but then some blew right through it, burying the others. The NFL kept them out of NFL stadiums. When it inevitably folded, the league as a whole had lost $160 million by 1985. UFL/FOX should pay "1st round talent 1-5 million a season?? 1. The entire league budget is only $24 million! Last year the salaries were $55k. 2. 1st round NFL annual avg contract starts at $2.5 million for #32 and peaks at $7.8 million for #1--a total of $364 million on 1st round contracts alone--fully guaranteed for 4 years. 3. with NIL, top Power 5 NCAA players are already getting millions---to play college ball. why would they take less to join a league that won't survive to pay them? 4. as we both noted above, the USFL failed specifically because a few owners ignored the agreed upon cap, causing other teams to actually cancel their TV contracts and fold.

Fox is stuck owing 50% of this money pit for as long as it lives. It's impossible to understand any major network executives would have reason to believe there's hope to grow the league. Every iteration of these minor leagues has quickly died simply because there is no money in it as there is essentially no fan interest in this country for such. It's the dumbest business ever, for a network. The UFL and it's network sponsors couldn't afford to pay for the cost of broadcasting from an even larger, more empty NFL stadium one of their 3-3 heading into the 4th Q football Kabuki shows. It costs millions per game to produce each NFL game. UFL can afford to pay its players $4500 a month---before taxes. If you are in Houston or the DC area or Detroit, why would you be more likely to buy a ticket to see this kind of football if it was in a nearby NFL stadium? "Michigan Panthers" currently play in an empty Ford Field.... The NFL is the only broadcasted product in existence that has an almost magical ability to find money anywhere and everywhere (they broadcast a show the other night that was basically an announcement of which players will be attending the draft!). American sports fans simply cannot satisfy their hunger for NFL content (at the expense of every other pro league too). The fact that they look sideways at the UFL (if they truly look at all) confirms that they see not a penny to be made by associating with this stuff.

of guys who played in multiple SB's, P Manning was one of the worst SB performers. Broncos win against Carolina he was simply awful. His 2 SB wins came against an equally terrible Cam Newton and Rex Grossman. i read the same thing happened in 2022--Bills were set to pick George Karlaftis but someone wrote down.....

another Cook thread has given me a headache

It just seemed strange that this guy posted Dolac's pro day data--- and then they changed. Did he have another pro day after the first? It also seems weird that with faster splits, he plummeted in rankings. He's being compared against all LB RAS data since the 1980's, not just to other guys who might have had pro days a week or 2 ago.

why does the stadium matter? they are near empty--how would it be more enjoyable or watchable in an NFL stadium (only 4 teams would be in proximity to one for home games)?

the first one did and they (2.85 and 1.58) were actually slower than the second set of numbers (2.69 and 1.53) that dropped his score---and dropped him 81 spots on the "all time". It's all fugazi anyway, these scores...

The original post didn't suggest it was a former Bill in their prime as a Bills player. Just "which past receiver"...

I don't understand why Fox, for instance, doesn't just put up reruns of Simpsons or Family guy, which regularly are beating the UFL thus far. Why spend all that money on production when reruns cost nothing and provide advertisers with better numbers?

TO was a goof, true. Diggs was a malignancy. Owens was on his last legs in Buffalo but still racked up 800+ with Trent and Fitz tossing. He amassed 5265 yards over 4 years with Jeff Garcia. He then walked into Philly and picked up 1200 off McNabb immediately. 3600 in Dallas in 3 years. He was huge, strong, fast and produced day 1 with each new team. Rice is the GOAT and will never be topped. Fitzgerald was one of the all time greats, but only has more yards because he played 2 more seasons and 44 more games than TO. TO had32 more TDs and more yards per game. Had he played as long as Fitzgerald he would easily be #2 all time. The OP started a thread about former Bills who would be best (in their prime we assume) for Josh. It would be hands down a beast like TO. Moulds, Reed, Evans (forget nearly all of the rest) don't come close other than as sentimental considerations. Lofton may enter the conversation I would say. TO would be Josh's dream receiver--easily the best he has had or could ever have (Diggs is the only solid WR he has played with).

Rashad was a JAG who had a cup of joe in Buf--his career was essentially that of the completely forgettable John Brown. TO was light years better than Diggs, yet Beane ignored the obvious issues with this guy and traded away a 1st rounder for him anyway. TO cried for his QB. Diggs cried at his QB(s). This "culture" stuff is BS. If TO in his prime was to be had, even WR-opposite-of-savant Beane would sign him.

yeah how is TO not on this list and guys Like Moses and Rashad are?? TO is the only legit pick.

They and the Giants should be relegated to the UFL

who would hire him? he blew the first round pick for them.

didn't this guy post him as a 9.0 yesterday? why would his score drop

Had nothing to do with McD. all Mayo

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