Mr. WEO

I guess you are having a different conversation. but … Playing versus a bad QB you can’t assume the game would unfold the same way for Denver or Houston as it did playing Lamar. That’s intuitively true. Everything might be different: time of possession, number of possessions, ints…..

Except Young isn't a backup. (nor is he a rookie). He doesn't belong in this convo. scroll up to see how it evolved. A poster said their backup could win "at least 9" games for the Ravens, given the talent on that roster. impossible. if you want to invent other backups for the Ravens, such as Andy Dalton, he has no chance of leading them to 9 wins, let alone more.

Dalton was benched for Fields, lol. so, no....

if only stats for players worked that way. In fact, he's had 2 sacks since halloween (8 games).

that was the point I was responding to. if you want to change the argument to equal backup--use Johnson (as I already did). Or Mitch--doesn't matter. But, if you insist: when the overwhelmingly vast majority of your Offense is a function of your otherworldly franchise QB, there's no logical reason to believe some scrub (like Dalton) is winning 9 games on either roster. pretty simple. Derrick Henry isn't overcoming that....

You can't just invent guys to put on a roster to make your point (Brissett and Browning stink, Fields was a starter this season. Anyway, as below, you can't assume the Offense will be as functional with the backup and the Offense wouldn't miss a beat without Jackson--that's just intuitively true. There's no reason to look at Josh Johnson (their actual backup) and say he's beating 3 playoff teams. stop...lol a factual one. It would not be possible for the Ravens to win 9 games with Johnson--no matter how they are otherwise stacked. you can't stick a guy like Johnson in there and expect the entire Offense to carry on as though Jackson is still behind Center. If you were the backup in Philly, that's a 3 win team. doesn't make their QB the MVP. It's just common sense. If all they had was Barkley as their playmaker, they would be very easy to defend as the pass would simply be taken away.

Johnson is their backup. I don't know what a component backup is. regardless, there's no chance they beat Washington, Denver, Houston.

If the Bills win the SB this year in a game that he actually impacts, it was worth every penny, obviously lol. that hasn't happened since 2021....

lol

If both teams had equal backup skill (let's say...Josh Johnson), neither is winning 6, let alone 9 games. You don't take the 2 most dynamic QBs in the league off your roster and have a winning season. That's just crazy.

without looking, do you know who the Ravens backup is? It's Josh Johnson. yes that guy--draft 16 years ago! in and out of the league for years. THAT guy is winning 9 games playing in the AFC North?? come on....

who was the greatest comp pick the Bills ever had?

Taron needs a little time off to all heal the burns he has suffered the past month

Cut the season in half. No one tunes in until the playoffs anyway. Make all players stay in college for 4 years or play overseas before they enter. The talent level is at it's lowest ever. A league bereft of stars---other than a handful of ancient glory days guys.

had a calculus TA who had us in a small group and was shouting at us for answer to a question none of us could understand. The answer, apparently--as he started yelling over and over, was "eeeksa secare" (X squared)

So, driving...golfballs?

From Bills punching bag to 3rd strike QB. Not bad, kid! I dump on Mitch a lot (low hanging fruit) , but Mike White isn't an NFL backup. His brief career as a starter was disastrous. He has moxie, but no QB talent. In the end, it doesn't matter: at any time, if Josh is out, the game (and season, possibly) is over with either of these guys behind Center.

didn't take a crystal ball to understand that Miller failed at least 3 drug tests in Denver (got a 4 game suspension that he was challenging because "he didn't do any thing wrong"...that got bumped up to 6 when he was busted with his "tester" in a scheme where they swapped his urine sample). Nor that he was investigated for beating up his kids' mother in 2021---which he did again last year, leading to another suspension. That's 10 games right there. Plus he missed the entire 2020 season with injury. He was injured when the Broncos (in the midst of his first known domestic abuse investigation) fleeced the Rams out of a 2nd and a 3rd to get him out of the building pronto. The Rams would let him go after half a season, despite a SB win. Beane was eager to pull Miller out of the Rams post SB party dumpster and pour another 120 million into an aging pass rusher who had recently missed a season on IR. yeah, who could foreseen any of this?? Anyway, no one can argue, that, for the money, he has been anything but a low impact player for his entire Bills career thus far. Injured his first year, useless his second, now limping back into some form that requires film study the Zapruder movie never got in order to make an argument that he's a value player out there.

he's getting 4 million per...why would he sack for 1.5?

the sack is half empty....

lol Embiid's a bum. He's done

that's how Ruben Brown got in over and over. It was his barbeque.

he's appeared 7 games on Defense with 321 snaps (3 games , he played every down). I don't think he would count for this OP question, no? Yeah, time for Solomon.

exactly--he is being hyped on every pre and post game show as well as every show during the week. gotta be the most "popular" QB in the league right now--he's must see viewing. Burrow isn't a Superman type that people want to watch who otherwise wouldn't watch his whiny azz and that mediocre squad.

how are Jackson and Burrow more "popular" than Josh right now?