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Went looking to see where this might rank in the record books and weird, couldn't find it other than record for a playoff game (Sam Darnold, 82 yards lost against the Rams). If this had been a playoff game, would have ranked second all time. In other words, that's a lot of yards lost resulting from sacks.

I mentioned this in a prior post but can’t get over the incredulous nature of this stat. In the entire 17 game 2024 season, Bills QB’s lost a total of 68 yards resulting from sacks. Thursday night we lost 70 yards from sacks, more in a single game than the entire 2024 season. Just mind-blowing.

We need to go outside the organization for both new OC and DC next year. No more promoting from within. If Mike McDaniel or Stefanski are fired after the season and they can’t get HC gigs, I’d hire them in a heartbeat. Hell, I’d make Stefanski HC if he could convince Schwartz to come along as DC.

Hasn't this been covered to death? It wouldn't be the end of the world to not resign a single FA. Maybe bring back McGovern, possibly Bosa, maybe not. Lots of guys going to be gone.

What??? Houston’s offense may be average but the defense is anything but. It’s elite. Stats back that up. Far and away #1 defense in points and yards. And they haven’t had NE’s schedule either. They have played tons of teams with winning records and high powered offenses.

After the SB loss to the Giants, the consolation was thinking “this team is way too talented not to win a SB”. The 1990 Bills should have won it all that year. Thoroughly out coached in the SB. But next year, ran into a really, really good Redskins team. Redskins were better. After that, the post Hershel Walker Cowboys. Cowboys were better. I always wondered how it would have played out if we had traded for Charles Haley and if he and Bruce Smith were rushing the passer instead of Haley going to the Cowboys. Maybe we end up winning one. Of course, that was pre-salary cap and Ralph was cheap.

No trolling at all. The one play in mind writing this was Johnson being dragged four yards on 4th and 1 when he hit the guy behind the line of scrimmage.

How about running a 4-3 with Milano, Thompson and Williams as the backers? At least with respect to run-heavy teams. Bonus: takes Taron Johnson off the field.

Bit of revisionist history regarding the New England game. NE was not “clearly the better team”. We had more yards and certainly could have won that game even though we played a poor game. Horrifically bad calls against us in the first half and three turnovers lost us the game. Before the season, I thought going into Houston on a short rest would be difficult and counted that as a loss. No excuse for Atlanta or Miami however.

One of my biggest fears is that there was ZERO chance of repeating 2024’s historic or near historic lack of turnovers and sacks: 8 turnovers (only 2 fumbles, not a single fumble from a running back or receiver); 14 sacks, loss of 63 yards. Sure enough, it’s regression to the mean. In 11 games, 14 turnovers (more interceptions and fumbles than entire 2024 season); 28 sacks (double all of last year in 11 games). More lost yards to sacks LAST NIGHT than entire 2024 season. It’s not the whole story, but it’s a big part of why this year is turning into such a disappointment.

No, it’s not fun watching this team. My problem is that I was so optimistic going into the season based on the schedule. Extra home game. No overseas games. Toughest games all at home. Minimal travel. Couldn’t be any better. That’s what so disappointing. Cherry on top is New England being this good this quickly. The torture never stops. Only silver lining will be if Chiefs miss the playoffs.

We wouldn’t be going for it on 4th and 27 if it was a tied game. Just saying.

Not just 8 sacks. 70 yards lost on the 8 sacks! That’s wild!

The Mark Andrews play was genius. I’m sure there are many additional variations that can be run off the tush push. Remember the pitch back to Willis McGahee against the 49’ers on a QB sneak many years ago?

This was the game I thought was a loss going into the season. Tough defense, short week, on the road. Houston’s D gave Allen fits last year but they give every QB fits. If our D doesn’t show up, we lose.

The 2006 Colts’ run D was horrific, worse than what we’re seeing from the Bills. Bob Sanders made it back for the playoffs and they were respectable when it came to defending the run. Don’t know if there is anything or anyone who’s going to come to our rescue.

Yes, trade him to a team that sees value in Coleman playing big slot exclusively. As to return, maybe a fifth?

The PI call on Miami makes you seriously wonder about refs betting on games. Ridiculous call. No contact or minimal contact by defender. Ball was 10 feet over receiver’s head. Takes Washington out of 3rd and 12 hole on their own five. You know it’s a bad call when the Blandino says it’s a bad call.

Agree 100%. This is the offense McDermott wants.

If either Mike McDaniel or Kevin Stefanski is fired during the offseason, I would be thrilled with either as OC. For DC, it’s got to be someone from outside the organization. Maybe Stefanski can bring Schwartz along. if you want to play some real 3D chess, fire McDermott and hire Josh McDaniel. It gives Josh Allen a real OC and sets NE back.

No. No, it’s not. It was 13 seconds. Deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties, you knew we would never make the Super Bowl after that game with McDermott as HC.

I’m glad I started the thread because a lot of interesting comments as to why you might WANT to run into a heavy box, especially with a runner like Cook who can make one guy miss and he’s off to the races. I get that but shouldn’t there also be a set number of pass plays designed to take advantage of the heavy box? Put Cook in motion, send Knox deep (which we know he can do)?

The 49’ers: “Hold my beer”.

$20? Reminds me of the line from Trading Places. “Twenty dollars? Maybe I’ll go to a movie . . . by myself.”

I’m not an All-22 guy and I’m genuinely curious to hear from posters who are whether we were running into a stacked box yesterday. For one example, what defense was Miami in on the first drive 3rd and one? It seemed Miami’s mindset coming in was to stop the run and challenge Josh Allen to beat them with his arm, which is kind of insane when you put in down on paper. I believe that going into the game, we were the only NFL team with more rushing attempts than passing attempts, which is also kind of crazy considering who’s playing QB for us. it also drives me nuts that we don’t have variations on certain formations. The announcers said it during the game. Gilliam’s in, it’s a run, Kincaid is in, it’s a pass. Why not play action when Gilliam is in? Same thing last year. No variation on the tush push. Always over the left guard. Cost us against KC. At this point, I’m hoping for some sort of change-up. Move Coleman to big slot and move Shakir outside. Stop throwing bubble screens. Something. Sorry this turned into a rant. Anyway, were we running into a heavy box against the Dolphins? If not, why was the running game so bad?