thebandit27

Bill Belichick doesn’t have it figured out. But Pro Football Focus does? They can provide a grade on every play? and Lastly, I hesitate to bring this part up, but part of me wonders the qualifications for doing this work. It feels like me taking a job to to play-by-play film breakdown on the Premier League. What are the football coaching or scouting backgrounds for these UK analysts making these grades? Is there anyone on staff with an NFL background? Bolded my emphasis because I did not realize PFF was based in the UK and therefore, unless they are importing film graders from the US, they likely lack the experience of even a DI college player in the states. Exactly. If people knew the work that these Quality Control Assistants do to watch plays 5, 6, 7 times in a row from each of 3 different views just to get a feel for one player’s assignment on a given play, they’d realize that the only value that PFF offers is in their data acquisition. Snap counts, formations, etc. That’s the value.

Just so you know, just about all of this is wrong. He plays left end more often than not, with Josh Allen playing the right side on passing downs and Campbell playing the right in apparent run situations. He’s not only slightly better than Hughes. Since Ngakoue entered the league in 2016, both he and Hughes have played 64 games (EDIT: Yannick has actually played 63). In that timeframe, Ngakoue has 105 tackles, 85 QB hits, 37.5 sacks, 42 TFLs, 14 FFs, 2 INTs, and 2 TDs. In the same timeframe (and 1 more game), Hughes has 103 tackles, 49 QB hits, 21.5 sacks, 39 TFLs, 5 FFs, 0 INTs, and 0 TDs. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1_hint=Yannick+Ngakoue&player_id1_select=Yannick+Ngakoue&fromyear_1=2016&toyear_1=2019&player_id1=NgakYa00&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Jerry+Hughes&player_id2_select=Jerry+Hughes&fromyear_2=2016&toyear_2=2019&player_id2=HughJe99&idx=players It isn’t even close between them. If you want a guy that’s got slightly better sack numbers than Ngakoue but less money, Mario Addison is the guy.

This is the same moron that was mad because Daniel Jones went ahead of Will Grier. The same fool that is championing a 29 year old RB/WR/TE hybrid with 13 career passing attempts and zero TDs as the next great NFL QB. The same dolt that told us that Vlad Ducasse was the 7th-best OLman in football: https://www.pff.com/news/pro-the-nfls-top-pass-blockers-in-pure-pass-sets Pretty sure we can easily dismiss what Sam says as total and complete horse ?

I think Graham is done. Agreed

It’s going to come down to what he values in his twilight years. If he wants the best chance to win a Super Bowl, he may end up in Seattle. If he wants familiarity and the highest paycheck, he probably picks Washington. If he wants a likely lesser chance at a Super Bowl than Seattle, but the best chance to leave his football career as healthy as possible, Buffalo’s the choice.

Yes—performance.

Boom. ROUND: All 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 My Picks 22 Justin Jefferson , WR 54 J.K. Dobbins , RB 86 Jonathan Greenard , LB 118 Bryan Edwards , WR 137 Jack Driscoll , OT 149 Colby Parkinson , TE 168 Shaquille Quarterman , LB 181 Rodrigo Blankenship , K 187 Geno Stone , S

Really? His best season was 60 receptions for 800 yards. His drop percentage in that season was 8.9%. The Bills as a team last year were a league-worst 7.0%. He isn’t going to help that.

More like Smash and Smash. I really hope they go after a speed back. Even if they have to draft a guy like Javon Leake in round 3.

The 3 and 4 spots are going to be very interesting this April. The marriage of Tepper and Rhule means that Carolina is a real threat to splash their way ahead of Miami to get Rhule his hand-picked QB...just guessing that would be Herbert. If LAC want Tua, they could move to 4, as I’m sure Gettleman would be tickled to move back for a hefty sum. That leaves Jordan Love for Miami at 5...else they miss out on a QB despite 3 first rounders. Bad, bad look IMO.

Have you watched Greenard yet?

Same. This kid has vaulted to EDGE2 for me.

That last paragraph is Daboll in a nutshell. His play designs are excellent for the most part; he knows how to scheme players open and take advantage of individual talents. His in-game post-scripted play-calling, however, varies from great to altogether brutal. It’s like he has zero feel for the game on a series-to-series basis. But as soon as you say that about him, he busts out a brilliant, game-winning play call like the QB sweep in OT—that should’ve been a walk-off and we all know it. Frustrating doesn’t begin to describe it. And for the record I have indeed read your posts, and I believe them to be patently reasonable for the most part.

Assuming his medicals check out in 3 weeks, I fear he’ll end up in round 1. Too explosive, smart, and versatile to get by 32 teams given how much of a premium is placed on getting after the QB.

Allen did not rank 1st for holding the ball longest. His average TT was 2.85–less than the averages of guys like Lamar, Tannehill, Rodgers, Dak, and Cousins: https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#average-time-to-throw And purely looking at time to throw is not a full analysis. You need to look at the causative factor. Was Allen holding the ball too long, or was he scrambling under pressure? If you look at PFR, they answer this question. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/passing_advanced.htm Allen actually had the lowest average pocket time in the entire NFL. Pocket time is defined by PFR as the time between the snap and either the release or the breakdown of the pocket. So no, it’s not Allen just holding the ball. For comparison sake, the others I mentioned above with longer TT’s than Allen all ranked in the top 5 in terms of having the most pocket time. Gigantic difference. And for the record I didn’t insult you. I said that there were things about the game that you didn’t understand. That’s no big deal. There are things about the game that I don’t understand either. Now I did call you out for talking down to others about neuroplasticity as though we don’t know that technique and habit take time to refine. That doesn’t need to be a big thing either, so if you were offended by that then I apologize. And yes, the bigger issues are that the offense hasn’t made it easy on Allen. Look no further than Lamar: he had a league-high 173 called RPOs, and the 3rd most pass attempts out of PA. Allen was 11th and 19th, respectively. Guys like Murray, Watson, Wilson, Mahomes, and evening Wentz had similar high percentages of plays that are designed to give them time and matchup advantages. Why isn’t Allen being given the same opportunity?

I’m not entirely certain that there’s a central debate. For me, I tend to only chime in when someone says something that’s objectively false—which happens about 2/3 of the time in Allen discussions ?

Watched 3 full games of this kid yesterday. I’m in. Sold. He is a dynamic pass rusher, can line up on either side of the line, rush from 2/3/4-point, can play the run, forces a ton of fumbles, tips passes, and by all accounts he’s a really smart, congenial kid. Gimme.

We also wanted AJ Green...

What does “ranked 26th” mean? In what metric? Also, you’re using old numbers for the rating vs blitz. Not sure where Allen ended up, but it sure wasn’t in the bottom 5: https://mobile.twitter.com/NFLMatchup/status/1201530533492199424?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-14770795051179077695.ampproject.net%2F2001281851410%2Fframe.html By the way, the rankings of guys like Tannehill and Brady in the above link should tell you an awful lot about whether or not the ability to play vs a blitz is fluid. For a guy that likes to talk down to others and cite fancy theories like neuroplasticity, you seem to have a LOT of confusion regarding QB development. For example, you want to claim that accuracy (via completion percentage) improves when the game slows down (but not due to mechanics being overhauled), whole simultaneously claiming that passer rating vs the blitz is a trait we should be judging young QBs by. Have you considered why Buffalo wasn’t good against the blitz? Could it have anything to do with the fact that our best WR in terms of creating separation (Beasley) needs 3+ seconds in a pattern to separate? I really wish there was a NextGen stat that showed “Time to Separate”. I can almost promise that Buffalo’s WR group would rank low. Very low. That said, it remains the QB’s job to beat the blitz. Yes, an OC can do a lot to help them out—run RPOs and zone reads to significantly slow pursuit like Roman does with Jackson, run a TON of PA like SF and LAR—but eventually the DC can send more people than the offense can block. At that point the QB needs to make a play. It’s one of the reasons that Brady was always so good—he could beat the blitz. But this year, Brady was a bottom-5 QB against the blitz; what happened? Two things: he’s getting older, and his WRs aren’t as good anymore. Teams figured out that if you take away Edelman and White early in the route, they don’t have a player that can win one-on-one matchups like Gronk and Amendola used to. It’s nice to know things about training athletes, but it’s equally important to know the game.

Good grief...has anyone else watched this Jonathan Greenard—the EDGE from Florida? He’s got a repertoire

Wait, wait, are you seriously saying that 60% in college is somehow similar to 75% in the pros? For the same player? That’s definitely the worst argument I’ve read on this subject. For reference, Chris Freakin’ Weinke—who went 70+ picks after Brees—had a better completion percentage than Brees in both their Junior and Senior seasons. Now I know that Chris Weinke is an all-time great precision passer and everything, but I don’t know that he’d be completing 75% of his throws if he were still in the league. Same goes for that HOFer in waiting Josh Heupel, who was picked 140+ picks after Brees. He was 2% better than Brees in both 1999 and 2000–their final 2 college seasons. Maybe it’s just easier to say that this position of yours is indefensible and leave it at that.

Moreover, if Brees truly did have “amazing mechanics” coming out of Purdue, then why was he a career 61% passer in college?

During the last 24 months, a lot of people have put a LOT of words in my mouth regarding Allen, but this post may be the absolute worst I’ve seen. Crazy is when you go noodles and read waaaaaaaaasy too far into a post. The reason for Brees’ METEORIC rise in accuracy from college to becoming the most accurate passer in NFL history was an overhaul of his mechanics between seasons 2 and 3. He’s talked about it at great length.

Brees didn’t have a mechanical issue? Tell that to Tom House.

I’d do it if someone can condense the picks/teams/etc