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Anyone who isn't at least as optimistic- and really, more optimistic- than they were about Allen now vs. draft day, is just an idiot. Plain and simple. If you are just an Allen skeptic because you looked at his numbers at Wyoming last year (and ignored his numbers the year before- his first year as a college QB, when he had actual weapons, put up good numbers and was named the second team all-MWC QB) and decided there's no way he can be good because some geek said so, like a Mike Schopp, and remain a skeptic, then sure, whatever. But anyone who thinks his stock has DECLINED since draft day is an absolute moron. A moron. Again, he is a) a raw prospect- REMEMBER?, b) has been thrown into action way ahead of everyone's ideal schedule because McDermott/Peterman (another thread), c) has as bad an offensive line as any team in the league and d) has as bad a cast of weapons to work with as any QB in the league. So if you are reading this and you watched each of the last two games and you are LESS optimistic about Allen than you were in April, YOU ARE A MORON. That's it. Period.

Exactly. He got hurt when he got sandwiched by two defenders while vulnerable in the pocket. Last week he got crushed by three defenders at once, again, totally vulnerable while making a thrown from the pocket. The vast majority of his runs end with him sliding or running out of bounds. If he takes a couple hits while running a week, that's still far less than every QB takes each week from the pocket. If anything, he takes fewer dangerous hits the more he runs.

What in God’s name is #4 about??

This seems like a bit of a stretch.

Evans was better in ‘06 than Johnson ever was. For what it’s worth. Which isn’t much.

The Bills' defensive line is decidedly better than last years'.

I would test this bit out at open mic night before committing to it on your upcoming tour.

When do you think wide receivers normally hit their stride? It’s still only his second year and he missed time last year.

If nothing else- and I am NOT sold on Beane OR McDermott- they have had pretty good drafts the last two years. Tre'Day, Dawkins, Milano and then Edmunds (I think we can assume he'll at least be a solid starter), Phillips and Johnson this year. All of these guys are useful players that would start for just about any team. Even the biggest Bills cynic has to be impressed with their ability to scout and develop defensive talent. Time to show what they can do on the offensive side of the ball if they want to keep their jobs long term.

I mean, he played pretty much a perfect game in his second career start at Minnesota but somehow everyone seems to have forgotten this already.

Been thinking of starting a similar thread lately. They are going to have a very good defense next season. They are going to have a ton of money and draft capital to invest in the offense. If Josh Allen works out, they'll be good as soon as next year. If he doesn't, they won't be good and they can use their top pick in 2020 on a QB, who will step into a very favorable situation. The long term outlook is fine.

He definitely didn’t but whatever.

No.

It was a great game. But I just like any game where the outcome is in doubt throughout. I prefer a 24-21 game with great defense too but there is no denying that last night was an instant classic.

Obviously.

Did I miss something? Where is White going? He’s under team control for another three years after this year.

It’s 2018. Applebee’s has good beer.

I never said they didn't.

There is no question that Patrick Mahomes is and will be a better NFL QB than Josh Allen. None. That being said, Mahomes LITERALLY has had the most ideal transition to becoming a starting NFL QB of any QB ever (with the possible exception of Aaron Rodgers) and Josh Allen has LITERALLY had the least ideal transition to becoming a starting NFL QB of any QB ever (including David Carr). And this is not hyperbole. It is impossible to compare the two of them apples to apples.

You mean the game they won because Luke Kuechly got flagged for a very suspect PI that kept the winning drive alive? Yes, Allen looked much better against Minnesota than Manuel did that game. Allen literally threw maybe two bad passes all game. Not to mention, Manuel had, like, real guys to work with and that was his best game as a pro. The following week against the Jets, he was every bit as bad as Allen was today, if not worse. If Allen doesn't exhibit the level of play he showed against Minnesota again this season, then we have a problem. I am confident he will.

Allen looked better against Minnesota than EJ Manuel has ever looked in a game in his NFL career. Just relax. They have A LOT of dollars and oh yes they can, and they will.

Yes, I agree that passing every play is more efficient than running. That was kinda like the point of my post. And as other people have pointed out, that’s probably always been the case. But QB’s being way better now, coupled with rule changes designed to bolster offense, has changed the way the game looks and I don’t like it as much. That doesn’t make me a NASCAR fan?

? No. I love baseball. I don't like guys who hit 40 HR's and strike out 200 times and the fact that strikeouts across the board are inflated but I still love baseball. So when the New Jersey Devils ruined hockey with the trap (essentially doing the reverse of what's happening in the NFL), I'm assuming you stopped watching? Not sure why we can't have a friendly conversation about how the game we all love has so blatantly changed.

This is not accurate. Although again, I am the first to concede that the numbers do not look as staggeringly different as the game feels to me. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/NFL/scoring.htm

Dude I am the most liberal person on this entire website. Nice attempt at satire though.