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Was gonna say, Schopp’s shtick has worn me out over the years but I have only heard him talk positively about the free agent signings. This OP is entirely contrived. I don’t know man- who do you prefer, Bob Costas or Jason Witten?

Bro.

There is no other way to spin it: the Bills look bad. They couldn’t beat that? Are the Bills that much less of a desirable destination than the Raiders??

No it doesn’t?

There’s probably some grey area here. If anyone like watches and outwardly roots/high fives for other teams, that’s weak. But if the Bills are out of it or whatever and you’re like, eh I’m kinda cool with the Browns or the Saints or the Chiefs and you are quietly/internally pulling for them to win a game (again, without standing up and cheering), then that’s not a foul.

I meant THAT CJ Spiller. Not CJ Spiller now. We need a fast, gadget, complimentary back that you get 10 touches a game and hopefully breaks 1 or 2.

CJ Spiller is EXACTLY the type of player the Bills need RIGHT NOW.

You’re not listening to me. Of his 38 “designed runs,” how many were QB sneaks or plays designed to literally only get one yard? I would venture to guess close to half of them.

Who?

Ha the truth is somewhere between 2.9 and 10. The OP is wildly misleading.

His designed run numbers are skewed because so many of them are designed to only get a yard. When he’s in the middle of the field and keeps an RPO for himself on a random second down, I can assure you he averages more than that.

I want one of the two white slot guys and I want them to catch a minimum of 85-90 passes.

That's OK, I've already been proven wrong once in this thread myself.

Fred Jackson definitely did NOT intentionally go down at the 1. It was initially ruled a TD and it was overturned when it became clear his knee was down just shy of the goal line.

You are right, I was wrong. Good call. Just went back and re-watched. Didn't realize there was that much time left when Ginn caught the ball on the 13.

You realize, of course, that if the Saints just ran the ball three times, they could've kicked a FG with 15 like seconds left and the Rams would've had no timeouts remaining, right?

The Super Bowl was a horrible football game like just about every year from the time I began making memories (Bears-Patriots) until toward the end of college (Rams-Titans) and has been good way more often than not ever since. I definitely fawn for the days of yore when it comes to most things, but not the Super Bowl. It will be another good game on Sunday. It always sucked when I was a kid. Also, Rams/over teaser is free money if anyone is into that.

50% success rate? 50% of them have made a Pro Bowl already. 100% of them are good. Foreman was hurt all year but Houston still has high hopes for him.

I want Jared Cook and one of those two white slot receivers.

Fortunately it sounds like most of you have finally come around to the idea that there’s no such thing as “BPA.” If there was, then a team like the Giants would take a RB one of these years and everyone would be like, WTF, and they’d say, what can I say, he was our BPA. If you still believe in BPA, I’ll make a bet with you that the Bills don’t draft a safety in the first five rounds. It is a hybrid between need and BPA, as it always has been for every team ever.

Notice I never said one thing about what type of pro he was going to be. As someone who had watched every game he played in college, I was merely addressing the many people who had never seen him play in college, yet had adamant, steadfast opinions on him that were factually incorrect.

I think that every QB could benefit to learn for a year under a real veteran QB (see: Patrick Mahomes). I said so much in this post myself. But when the only other QB on your roster is Nathan Peterman, then yeah, you may as well get your feet wet.

Exactly. When were we highest on any of the QB’s that have come and gone during the drought? Losman had an ok 2006 but I don’t remember anyone being that psyched. Edwards looked great through 5-6 games in 2008 but then imploded altogether. EJ Manuel had like one good game against Carolina but his stock never got higher than that. I suppose Tyrod’s first two years before we realized he kind of was what he was, would’ve been the highest I’ve ever been on a guy until Allen.

Yeah and the Bills should've/could've and had every opportunity to put away the Giants.

Hey guys, I couldn't figure out how to re-up an old Josh Allen thread I started from before the draft so I have copy and pasted my original post, verbatim, below. I have bolded some of the things I think I got right. I feel like some of you might remember it. Yeah, it's a 'look at me post'. Enjoy. So I moved to Denver, from Buffalo, in 2002 and almost immediately adopted Wyoming as my college team (pretty much because I think they have the best uniforms in sports). Anyway I have ramped up my fandom in recent years and, at this point, am a pretty diehard fan. In short, I have watched every game Josh Allen has played as a college QB. I have driven up to Laramie to see them/him play four times (three times in 2016 and once last year). Incidentally, they were 3-1 in those games and he played good to great in all of them. The win against Boise State (who was undefeated and ranked in the teens at the time) in 2016 was one of the best football games I've ever attended in my life (the greatest comeback against the Oilers obviously being #1). So this is NOT a Josh Allen excuse thread, nor am I a Josh Allen "fanboy." And full disclosure, I probably have him as the #2 or 3 QB on my board (you can call me a Mayfield fanboy if you want). This is a thread containing FACTS for all the Biff from Tonawandas who think they suddenly know more about football than NFL scouts, analysts, GM's and coaches. Just trying to dispel a lot of disinformation floating around. FACT CHECK: Josh Allen "wasn't good" in college: FALSE The 2016 Wyoming squad was loaded with offensive talent. Literally five of their key offensive players were seniors who played with NFL teams into preseason last year and four are currently on NFL rosters. That being said, it was Josh Allen's first year as a college QB. With all of those guys as juniors the previous season, they went 2-10. With Allen, they ended up 8-6 but were 8-3 before losing a meaningless game against New Mexico and then two nailbiters against San Diego State (MWC Championship game) and BYU (bowl game). He was very good. He went from an unheralded JuCo transfer to a guy being thrown around as the #1 pick in this draft halfway through his first college season. Really ask yourself, Biff, if a guy could do that without being "good." His completion percentage was lower than you might like but he had a propensity, especially in 2016, to throw the ball downfield A LOT. For perspective, Brian Hill (now on the Bengals), played most every down, was second in the nation in rushing that year and is a very elusive back. He had NINE RECEPTIONS ALL SEASON. Ask yourself, if Hill caught 40 balls and Allen's completion percentage was 66% instead of 56% in 2016, would we even be having that conversation? Even with his 56% completion percentage, he was named the 2nd team MWC QB (Brett Rypien, Mark's son, had better numbers, but few would argue Allen wasn't a more impactful player that year) as well as the MWC preseason player of the year going into 2017. Not bad for not being good, huh? FACT CHECK: Josh Allen had no weapons in 2017: TRUE I was on here trying to tell anyone who would listen, prior to the 2017 season, that Josh Allen's numbers would be way down. It's easy for you, Biff, to call that an excuse but here's a little perspective: he lost his top two running backs, his top two receivers, his tight end and his center (again, four of these guys are in the NFL now). Their leading rusher went from a guy who finished 2nd in FBS to a freshman who was LITERALLY converted from a linebacker right before the season started. They struggled a ton on offense in 2017. Allen's numbers did not impress. Anyone who follows Wyoming football could've told you that would be the case. All of their skill position players were unheralded freshmen and sophomores playing their first college football games, save for two guys who played sparingly in 2016 and aren't very good (see: CJ Johnson's drop of a beautiful deep ball for a would-be TD against Iowa in week 1). So when Biff is on here telling you that Josh Allen struggled against Iowa and Oregon, well, no s***. Of course he did. And you know what, as someone who follows the program, his attitude literally could not have been better all last season. Not once did he even come remotely close to making an excuse for his numbers or complaining about the glaring lack of talent around him. Oh yeah, Wyoming was 8-3 with Josh Allen in 2017 and 0-2 without him. Oh yeah part 2, watch his three TD passes from the bowl game against Central Michigan and tell me how many PRO QB's make all three of those throws. FACT CHECK: There is more to Josh Allen than his "strong arm" and "big hands": TRUE Did you know that in addition to having the best arm we've maybe ever seen coming out of college football that Josh Allen is unbelievably strong, elusive, can juke and bowl over defenders, and makes throws on the run and across his body as well as any prospect I've ever seen? Well that happens to be the case. The Cam Newton comparisons are not crazy. Watch his highlights from the first San Diego State game, the UNLV game from 2016- hell, before you go spouting off, watch a freaking highlight tape of the guy. FACT CHECK: The comparisons to JaMarcus Russell are beyond insulting: TRUE Go on youtube.com and watch a video of former teammates talking about JaMarcus Russell skipping meetings, being utterly disengaged, eating copious amounts of s****y food to the point where he weighed in at 300 lbs., etc. Also guessing JaMarcus Russell didn't score a 37 on the wonderlic. Josh Allen is as good of a teammate and leader as you will find in the college football ranks. Will all of this translate into him being a great pro? I don't know. I absolutely see the bust potential. He is still unrefined. He would be best-suited, in my opinion, going to a team like San Diego. He absolutely has a gunslinger mentality. But to all you Biff from Tonawandas out there, so sure of yourselves (God does this remind me of when half the board was mocking Carolina for taking Newton #1), I really, really hope you eat a fistful of crow and that you have the sacks to show up and admit you were wrong. An acceptable stance is, "gee I'm not buying the Allen hype but if an NFL team sees it, I gotta think they know more than I do." That's fair. But the unbelievable levels of ignorance on this board, ie. "I wouldn't take him in the fifth round; I will no longer be a Bills fan if they take him, etc"... dude just give it a rest already. PLEASE. I am so over it. At this point, I am so sick of hearing from the naysayers that I will be rooting for Josh Allen no matter who he gets drafted by, and that includes the Jets. Not the Dolphins though. Go Bills!