Alphadawg7

That’s not how the real world works.

Not that they were saying they he wasn't any good per se, but more saying there is a large gap between how good our WR group is (mainly because of Diggs) and the Jets. And I was pointing out that the gap is not as wide as some want to make it seem if Rodgers was to join the Jets because Wilson would likely put up a big season himself.

I really thought he was going to break out this year. I felt like the offense had more pep when he got more snaps later in the season and Sanders got fewer. And then the KC game created another level of optimism. But man, he was easily the biggest disappointment this year in terms of underperforming to expectations. Beane has made some excuses for him, and who knows, maybe they are more legit than we think. But there is no sugar coating it, this season was not a good one for him. Lack of focus, mental errors, drops, lack of awareness, lack of separation, etc. He didn't seem suited to be a featured #2 WR. He has this "Big Game Davis" reputation in the postseason, but does he even deserve that? He has only had 2 big games in the playoffs out of 7, and the majority of his playoff career stats came in the one game against KC. I am not going to give up on him, but it sure is harder to be optimistic about him as the #2 again next year. If he does fill that role again, then I will hope for a bounce back season. But I do hope we sign or draft someone to either take over that role or challenge him for the role where he has to earn it vs get it by default.

Its possible, but its not really something Beane does. If Beane wants a guy here, he finds a way to get an extension or new contract done. He decides a value he is willing to go to, and they either find common ground or Beane moves on. So I doubt he will, but if he was to use it, I think Edmunds would be the one he would use it and probably use the cheaper tag giving him the right to match other offers in case Edmunds signed a deal that Beane would be ok paying himself.

Yeah, Elijah Moore is actually pretty good, and to be honest, I am not sold that Davis is better than Moore at this stage. Davis has more production, but that is from playing with an elite QB in a high volume offense. But Davis has still underachieved this past year as a starter, and I think it's very plausible Moore is capable of putting up a similar season or better with Josh Allen here. I think its fair to say Gave is better than Corey Davis and Mims though. Corey had some injuries and dealt with bad QB play, but I think he is capable of being a solid player still, but Gabe definitely has more upside at this point. Mims sucks, he may not even make the roster there this year.

But I heard on this board Diggs is forcing his way to Dallas

Wilson is a lot better than you guys are giving him credit for. I’m going to say this right now, if Rodgers becomes a Jet, Wilson will be at least a 1300+ yard receiver next year with 8+ TDs. While it’s easy to say there is this huge gap today after Wilson was a rookie playing with inept QBs, what he will be next year with Rodgers is a totally different story.

You address those issues when they happen. You don’t kill your teams cap and Super Bowl chances on something that might happen (and probably won’t happen) 6 months from now. He wasn’t happy in Minnesota and yet never once did that and still gave his all to the team. It would unbelievably stupid for the Bills to take on $40M in dead cap space between this year and next year because he unfollowed their IG page. I mean come on. And for what? Out of fear of things that haven’t happened yet and didn’t happen either when he was unhappy with his previous team? He will be a Buffalo Bill and major player this year and next year too. Only thing that changes that if something catastrophically changes, and even then it’s a long shot the team would trade him and take on that much dead cap hit. Who he does or doesn’t follow on IG is not that catastrophic event.

The issue with Mixon’s video knocking that girl out is that it was while he was in college. NFL currently can’t discipline players that did something prior to being employed by the NFL. Tyreek Hill was another guy who saw his draft stock fall but still got drafted despite beating up his pregnant girlfriend. Not saying I agree with the rule, because I don’t. But until that rule changes, which I doubt the collective bargaining agreement would allow that change, it’s just the sad fact of the NFL. Teams could choose to just not draft or sign them, but sadly there is always going to be teams that will take the chance when it’s a talented prospect. Which is why POS like Mixon and Hill still get drafted. If the NFL is intent on giving kids a second chance to grow from their mistakes, then a better way to handle this would be to strip them of their NFL eligibility for at least a year (or even 2 years) where they have to do things like reform classes and complete them before they can apply for eligibility again. And even then, they would not be allowed back in the draft and would have to enter the supplemental draft or get signed as an UDFA. This gives kids a chance to learn from their mistakes still while also making the path to the NFL much harder and longer for those who screw up to where they need to earn it.

There are conflicting reports on whether or not Mixon was actually involved. If he is, then he will be done in the league forever and will be facing jail time. So I could see how people close to him might be trying to cover for his sorry ass. This is going to be interesting to see how it unfolds. There is a cell video on Twitter that claims it was outside his house where you can’t see him (it’s night and too dark) but cell phone picks up the gun shot sounds and it was like 10 gunshots. If that is a legit video, firing 10 shots at an unarmed minor and striking him in the leg is going to result in some significant jail time.

None of those players had contracts causing 35m in dead money over next 2 years on teams cap strapped and trying to win a SB. No 2 trades are the same. Diggs contract dead money cap hits make him un-tradable. Unless something absolutely catastrophic happens, he will be a Bill the next 2 years at least.

While I don’t disagree, it should be pointed out Trevon doesn’t follow Buffalo, someone said that but it’s incorrect. He doesn’t follow Dallas, but he also doesn’t follow Buffalo.

hahaha you win the internet today

I’m not against trading Oliver, I was speaking on behalf of Beane and what I think he would want back if he traded Oliver

You missed my reason as to why I said that

Well said, agree with all this, nice post!

4 year, 150 million is a pretty fair price given where the next QB contracts are going to land. Its about where he should be as a middle of the pack starting QB with playoff experience. It seems like a lot if you think about 3 to 4 years ago, but not with the new higher cap and where guys like Burrow, Herbet, and Lamar are going to land moving forward.

No, but it does confirm you actually don't understand the cap and are unclear about how signing him impacts the team as a whole, now and in the future.

Wait...are people flipping on Allen now as if he doesn't do enough in the offseason? Nobody has put more work and dedication into the offseason's to keep getting better than Allen has. Lets not forget that Allen played an incredibly emotional and mentally draining season in Buffalo. That he played through a painful and dangerous injury to his elbow. And is the most physical QB in the NFL who puts his body through way more hits and abuse than anyone else. So I don't think its fair to criticize Allen taking some leisure time to himself this early in the offseason. In fact, I am glad he is not pushing himself too hard right now, would much rather him get his mind clear, let his body feel good, and then get back to the grind here soon. The one thing no one can ever question about Allen is his work ethic or his commitment to be the best version of himself.

Who cares though. When week 1 rolls around and its his first snap on the field, he will be going 110% and that will remain true for the whole season. So I don't care if he is grumpy, has bad gas, has a hang nail, or what ever other issue there may be now. Come week 1, Diggs will be catching passes from his close friend Josh Allen and giving it his all from start to finish for the season. He is a real one, he gives everything he has to the game and to the team. That is not even in question.

Not sure, everything I saw was that he was going to be one of their two designated post June 1st cuts. Maybe if they designate him for post June 1st it avoids what they owe him if he is on the roster still on March 17th. Not sure how that affects it or not.

I dont disagree with any of that, and it would be rather exciting to see Henry back there with Josh. But at the same time, Shaun Alexander was 28 when he fell off the cliff suddenly and he was coming of an MVP season with 1880 yards and 27 TD's. Just hard to predict with these big bruising runners, especially with the kind of volume carries they get. And that is where I am not sure how Beane will weigh all that together. Age, large carry volume, cap cost, and cost to acquire...when you put it all together, doesn't feel like a Beane move, especially with being a pass first team who needs to significantly address OL and also add more to the receiving weapons.

Ah, so there is your motivation. You want to be right about what you said weeks ago. And who knows, this could further develop and show there is an issue with Diggs and wanting a trade. But, this isn't that proof. He can't be traded under his current contract, there is no getting around that fact. So even if he is unhappy, it doesn't matter, he is a Buffalo Bill for at least the next 2 seasons based on cap reasons alone. And for that to change, it will take massive developments, not some "who does he follow on IG" story. Everyone said Deebo was done in SF last year, including Deebo himself who said he didn't even want to talk to the Niners about money or a new contract, he wanted out. Guess who is still a 49er? Everyone last year believed Aaron Rodgers was going to leave GB...guess who was still a Packer last season? There was substantial more reasons to think those guys were going to play elsewhere than anything going on with Diggs, yet they didn't go anywhere either.

True, but Titans had a solid run blocking OL still, and their backup RB's had quite a bit of success the last couple of years when Henry was out. And Saffold was not the same player for us that he had been previously in his career.

This is why I am excited to see some new blood (or new old blood if it is McD) in how we call our defense and attack offenses. McD already showed he could get more out of the same defense than Frazier when he previously had to strip Frazier of play calling duties in season and the defense immediately improved. I actually really like the idea of McD calling the plays as long as it doesn't create issues in his overall HC duties and management of games.