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My subjective perceptions feel like he gameplans around what opponents show on film (tendencies, reactions, formations) and doesn't account for dynamic position weaknesses including injuries. Hell, his defensive system seems complicated enough already. Could it even handle individual rules and actions for the current opponent? Then there's Jordan Hancock. Listed third on the depth chart behind Cam Lewis at both positions. Is he that bad/behind or does McD not want to take a chance on another rookie with all the defensive problems? Thing is, Hancock has shown a nose for the ball, aggression and playmaking ability. Everything we desperately need from that safety position. For me at the start of the season, Walker, Hairston, and Hancock were the guys you really try to push along for that difference-making ability. Strong flashed later so the injury is a real shame too. But ever since Peterman, I have worried McD doesn't properly appreciate/develop the game changing talent he has on hand. Even their first year plan for Allen stunk from a personnel perspective. Not much has changed this year sadly except for Walker, but that's more a necessity than a choice. Agree and we also need a different, new coach from outside for D-coordinator. The problem is we're going to waste another Josh season unless McD takes to heart he needs to change his approach.

This is an easy answer. They rely on their blanket system and don't make enough plans to attack a specific opponent's weaknesses. This has happened over and over. Banged up offensive lines, secondaries, D-lines. Doesn't matter, they all look competent when they play us. One of the areas McD needs to practice what he preaches with continuous improvement. McD plans first to avoid giving up big plays as a unit, much less so to individual players.

He was durable because he avoided all hitting unless he was the one who had to make the play.

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I check in on Edmunds' play once in a while. He's more aggressive this year, maybe because next year is his last contract year, and as always will make plays right in front of him. But when he's even a moderate distance from the ball he continues to be all about the show pony trot and I've still never seen him fight through a block even once. He's always backing up slowly. We are better off doing what we did.

It's clearly both. When do you ever see D-lineman do a stunt? Our secondary play physical and at short yardage? Sean is married to his risk-averse system. It can prevent players from exploiting their talents because system rules often prevent it and if your drafted player doesn't mesh with the system it's a wasted pick rather than fitting your system to the players at hand. Best (worst) example stuck in my mind is AFCC vs KC last year with Mahomes running those unstoppable end-arounds all game. Groot was asked afterwards if he should have bounced out to try and stop it and he said "no, my rule is to stay where I'm at and I would do the same thing again." Poignant example of why we can’t even get to the SuperBowl. You're not wrong, but are being myopic.

We're 9 years in. He needed to do start doing targeted overhauls of our scouting system at least 3 years ago. Particularly D line, LB and receiver. Ironically, he finally hit on one with Walker. If only we could clone and implant Shakir's brain in him!

Coleman lacks the brain power to overcome his mobility limitations and consistently succeed at this level.

This one reeks of a locker room problem, probably caused by bad coaching. That was the worst performance by our O-line I've seen in a long time. No energy, save the third quarter ground game, and no cohesiveness. The entire team effort was glazed eye dullness. Josh had no fire either, couldn't escape the pass rush because our O-line could barely slow them down backing up that quickly. Definitely all the problems everyone has mentioned but it starts with the team having no fire to compete yesterday.

Ok, then why are so many recruits decommitting PSU if it's only about NIL money?

I can't say what actually happened behind the scenes at PSU, but he was still telling that story when he first started there.

😂 I think that got buried in them 10 losses. Must be the 3 wins vs Michigan! Still a glimmer through the 7 losses.

Only one of his problems. He is certainly one of the most interesting coaching personalities I've ever seen IMO. He's part sincere, part cheeseball, part family guy, part snake oil salesman. He created a welcoming environment for the players and their families but he also liked to brag when he got there that part of hiring assistant coaches was to make sure their wives were hot enough. He figured if they could "recruit" and marry above their looks that they would do well with recruiting players too. He always tightened his sphincter too much in big games over the years. Sadly, I think the previous AD, Sandy Barbour, bought into his schtick too much and gave him the massive contract just before she retired a year later. I thought it would be another year or two before they let him go so count me pleasantly surprised.

Must have truly lost the locker room

Hopefully yesterday was the nail in the coffin for him. That program is stuck until he's gone Give IU's DC Bryant Haines a big shout out as well. Masterful plan of stunts and blitzes to keep Oregon's O line and QB off-balance. Smaller, intelligently attacking D. Something I wish McDermott would consider.

At this point, we are going to be a ball control team and mostly pull it out late. McD knows our D is a problem and if/until it finds better footing, that's his solution. If not for the turnovers, I think we win that game and no one cares about better coaching.

Going for it on fourth downs. Managing the game so Mahomes doesn't end up with the ball late in a one score game, including staying out of prevent D. These are a couple of the most obvious ways. Unfortunately, moreso on offense than defense IMO. But, he needs to get his defense healthy, then work in players like Hairston, Strong, and hopefully Hancock. And his D-line rooks need more time to mature. More patience is needed and that is in short supply right now, somewhat deservedly as it is his ninth season. But his positives allow me to be patient another season. Totally agree with how he runs and leads a team.

This is pretty much McDermott's legacy on both sides of the ball, and his prime criticism. Opponent O-line in shambles looks good against us. Banged up secondaries never properly tested. He never prioritizes exploiting opponent weaknesses.

Yeah, the Bucks really needed a future #1 pick at QB to avoid struggling to a winning record this year. They're a Saban Alabama monster now.

💯 This is what I'm hoping for in coaching growth this year. Haven't seen it yet though.

Great! Have you anything to prove he wouldn't have been successful beyond Mayock and an NFC exec who wasn't even sure if Mahomes was coachable? The fact that he corrected his footwork before the draft speaks to his motivation and bolsters my argument more than yours. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38334676/untold-stories-patrick-mahomes-rookie-season In Derrick Johnson and Justin Houston, Tamba Hali and Eric Berry, the Chiefs had a group of defensive players who combined for 17 Pro Bowls and five first-team All-Pro selections. But in 2017, they had seen nothing like the quarterback who played against them each day in practice. "We were in awe of what he was doing," Johnson said. "We'd sit around talking about the throws he made on us in practice. We'd all talk about how he got us with this play or that play. "When it came time for the Broncos game, we all had our popcorn ready. We were sitting there saying, 'Watch this,' or 'Look at this.' We were starstruck when it came to the talent he had. There was no way he could throw the passes he could throw and not be successful." It's natural to wonder now, after what he's accomplished in his five seasons as a starter, how Mahomes and the Chiefs would have fared had he played as a rookie. Would he have a third MVP award? Would the Chiefs have won the Super Bowl that season? "I think I would have had some success," Mahomes said recently. "I don't think it would have happened as fast. I think there would have been a lot more mistakes, especially early in my career, early in my season. I think by the end of the year I could have figured some stuff out and made some stuff happen. I don't know if it would have been a Super Bowl run or anything like that but I think I hopefully could have gotten us into the playoffs. Bottom line, while Pat acknowledged he learned a lot his rookie year, he himself feels he would have been fine, just taken a little longer. The rest of his team already knew it before his first real game. Plenty more stories to that in the article.

I certainly wasn't implying he didn't benefit by sitting a longer time. I was saying, that like Allen, he would have been fine. My evidence? College. You could easily see his ability to manipulate windows and players with his eyes and body language. People claimed he was a system quarterback, but when Mahomes missed a game and a half his last year, his backup definitely executed a system offense and it was a stark contrast to how dynamic Mahomes played it. He also had the arm talent and pocket awareness. They only thing they had to change was his ball delivery, as his footwork was straight off the mound!

Depends on if they are asking these rookies to do things at game speed that they are incapable of? Bill Parcells was well known for only installing gameplans his QB was comfortable executing. I think the vast majority of players learn best by doing, if it has to be a real game, they must be fully prepared and comfortable on what they're trying to do to learn lessons and grow.

I think the bottom line that's emerging is many NFL front offices need better plans to develop their QB's. Mahomes would have been fine if he had started his rookie year. Josh has been fine. Mayfield could read defenses pre-snap at Oklahoma and was rookie of the year in 2018. The wheels fell off because of coaching incompetency in Cleveland. Baker is the most obvious example of how FOs fail their QBs. Besides the Jets, of course. For some QBs more time on the bench is a must. But it falls on the FO knowing how best to develop their QB, and teaching their QB how best to develop themselves. Think about all the diverse off-season work Josh has put in to grow his game. Without this self-motivation, I think it takes him much longer to develop and maybe he never hits his ceiling.

He was full of himself when he left. Since then, he's been respectful to Josh, the team, and the fans.