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Nobody can beat Brady presnap. Mostly because of the cameras and cheating system though.

It is - I think I need hearing aids.

9-8. This team has serious issues, especially on defense. The only team we've truly 'beaten' with across the board decent play from all three phases is the lowly Jets. I feel like the Paytoilets exposed our offense and all other teams will follow suit by playing straight man coverage and make Josh beat the blitz. Hey, I would love nothing better than for JA17 to bring home the Lombardi, but it's gonna be a long season and short post season.

This thread isn’t masculine enough for me, I’m out

That guy named Klein…

This guy is looking for a fairy tale ending...

Bump for ..

I too hate when threads become political, Dick Cheney.

13-4. Bills largely right the ship coming out of the bye week and get on a couple winning streaks. Figuring they may lose to the Chiefs in there, among a few other potential roadblocks. But only go down in two of those games, and need to win in Week 18 to get the 1 seed.

You call this roster loaded which sort of hurts credibility. We are so “loaded” we are forced to start rookies and backups you give credit to because we can’t find better talent. Thats how you reach the level Beane has with this roster. Your C rated draft picks either start with no competition (Bishop, Coleman) or out of pure necessity (Dorian Williams). Let’s say even some of what you’re saying is right in defending this garbage, what exactly was the plan at CB? You said yourself what we should and should not expect from a rookie or young player. Yet we come into the season completely dependent on a rookie or we are starting Tre White. After about 2 years of giving McD hell in nearly every post on the subject at the end of last years playoffs I made a post about the talent level and Beane specifically. Which might be hard to separate from McD. We really don’t know how much should fall on him from a talent perspective. But if I had to say what is more clearly holding us back between coaching and talent, it’s talent, and it’s not really close. We have an army of players that are fringe starters getting regular reps. Palmer is a #3 a best, Coleman might not even be a #3 at this point, Samuel is not even a #3, Moore is not a #3, Bishop is not a starter, Williams is not a starter, Tre White is not a starter, Bernard, Rapp, and Jones are fringe starters. That's over half our defense for gods sake and the entire WR room outside of Shakir. But what is the best part of all of this? Every single guy I called out besides Bishop is not just a one year starter, but a mutlti year starter. We got to see the suck last year and we said lets go with round two!

If no one else wins more than 11 games, I like our chances to get at least 12 wins and get the 1 seed. I’d actually be shocked if no one in the AFC gets 12 wins or more.

Yup. Insanely disappointing but sadly par for the course for some folks on here.

Hahahahahahahaha what ****ing losers All old white racist boomers to.

How has this thread title been allowed to stay for 15 hours and counting

It’s a new golden age Hahahahahahahaha

He should acquire WRs via draft or trade. Signing mid level free agent WRs is dumb. It’s an expensive position to sign in free agency and almost none of them perform better than they did on their original team. WR is a tough position to evaluate in the draft. The Chiefs drafted Skyy Moore who was terrible but have drafted a WR in the top 4 rounds every year since and now have Rice and Worthy - not great but better than any WRs on our roster. So to me the biggest crime is not even trying to draft WRs early until Diggs forced his way out and we were desperate. So we are not arguing opposite points. Beane is not a great drafter, and so he has to fill a lot of holes with expensive veterans in free agency who are only in free agency because their former team doesn’t think they are worth it. This makes him both not a great drafter and poor at managing the cap lately. But I will always believe if he drafted WRs early most years, some of them would be already be successes with Josh and then these other misses wouldn’t hurt as much.

Yep. It’s on.