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Wasn’t it a thing where, like Greg Roman, Brady can’t really design a good pass game (i.e., simplistic routes, not a lot of creativity), or am I imagining that? I think Brady gets a lot of credit for the LSU pass game success with Burrow, Chase, and Jefferson, but, in hindsight, I think I could’ve called an offense that included the three of them. Like Dorsey before him, I find myself asking “What’s the plan here in the pass game”. The best OCs work a plan that sets up future plays. I just feel like Brady is calling plays sometimes without a real plan to set up and attack the defense. I’d bet $100 we get the WR screen somewhere on the first drive. If I know it’s coming, you best believe Spags does.

I almost picked Kermit but Kelce's face is more punchable. I hate that he is even more visible being attached to Swift

Bite your tongue! 🤨

I can sort of agree with this. Only time will tell.

Honestly thinking the same thing... probably foolish... but somewhere in the back of my mind I feel like are we just not showing everything right now? Probably foolish again... but it seems that way... at least a bit... I do think when it comes playoff time, or if we are in a fight for the playoffs the gloves will come off Josh...

I think it’s a bit of both. We need an added dimension (speed) at WR AND Josh needs to play better.

the point is I don’t trust that man one bit, I will never vote for him. Trumps successor should be Marco Rubio

w no need, frankly, for allen the idea should still be allen for purdy and three firsts i think it's possible they're actually worse tbh it's been repeated and it's inaccurate

If you don't witness with your own eyes how poorly Allen throws the classic 'bomb' throw, I don't know what to tell you. This has been discussed on this board for years at length and it's pretty well documented and accepted that it's a very poor part of Allen's game. Even guys who study the film a lot more than I do, Joe Marino for example just this week, talked about Allen never having good touch on those bomb throws. You want to see a pretty bomb thrower who was normally really accurate with them? Look no further than prime Arron Rogers or Tom Brady. It's just not a good part of Allen's game an that's okay. No QB is great at everything and they all have their flaws.

Willing to bet the average American had no idea about this until now.. maybe.. if they’re not boomers getting their news from MSM.

I said with respect to the type of throws that Allen excels at. Maybe in the most generic sense our WR group isn't the worst, just a bottom 10 group. Our best WR is Shakir and he is not a good 15 - 30 yard yard receiver at the boundary. Moore is a gadget guy, Shavers is a blocking WR that would struggle to make the practice squad of many teams; Coleman has yet to step up and is not playing well by any metric and both Palmer & Samuel's have had availability issues. So excuse me if I'm struggling to see all the talent in the WR room. And I stand by my assertion that this is the worst WR group since 2018. But I do think that if Palmer can get and stay healthy he might upgrade the receivers quite a bit. I also haven't given up on Coleman who I would not be shocked turned things around and became very productive. But in the here and now we have a WR problem and I can't understand those that claim we don't.

I’m not saying they’re super talented, I’m saying they’re not as bad as they’re being portrayed. Are there times when the defense wins and covers them up? Of course! But there are opportunities there that have been missed. Whether that’s Allen or the OL not giving him enough time and not directly the receivers. Opposing teams’ secondaries aren’t filled with Ed Reeds and Deion Sanders week after week.

Josh getting beaten up is my main worry when running with Cook does not work or we need to play from behind. Josh may have an injury. I remember after he scored on the tush push last week he came off the field shaking his throwing hand. It is just a matter of time until he takes a hit that does some serious damage with the way our passing attack has been functioning of late. I do think things will improve, hopefully beginning this Sunday. Go Bills!

No, they were nervous about having a direct democracy. That’s why they set up a representative form of government. I don’t consider people seeking a better life here to be “invaders.”

This was exactly Beane's point when he went on WGR. He's been saying it's not a problem all along because it's basically intentional. I don't necessarily love that, but I get it. He has a plan. People keep arguing more personnel that doesn't align with that plan. It's like they weren't even listening. This team doesn't want Randy Moss, they want Deion Branch.

Wish Fredonia was still in the mix. I can remember being in a bar at about 18 years old, and having Thurman hand me a jack n coke. Those days were amazing. My brother and I would help the Bills move into their dorms. Always a $5 tip I recall. How times have changed.

Except Aaron Rodgers lol but agree.

Over his time here I believe he was 2nd in the NFL in YPC over that timeframe

Not sure what Brady is looking at. I went back and counted, Bills have had at least 9 possessions in every game, and are averaging 10.6. What is up are the INT's and the stops on downs by our opponents. Josh has had 4 ints and a fumble, and Coleman lost a fumble. Defense has recovered 5 fumbles and have intercepted 3 passes on the season.

Go back to 2018-2019, and I was very much rooting for the Chiefs to win. I wanted to see Andy Reid finally get one. I thought Patrick Mahomes was fun to watch. The team was new and exciting. And more than anything else... I was ready for the two decade long Patriots dynasty to finally end. Even from 2020-2022, I still had an element of respect for the Chiefs. Even with our postseason losses to them. They were a very good team that we were simply struggling to get past in the playoffs. It was frustrating, but there wasn't anything in particular I could hate or dislike about that franchise (outside of domestic abuser Tyreek Hill). To me, everything started falling apart with the Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce fiasco. The NFL couldn't go 10 minutes without showing her reaction to the game, and every element of their coverage reeked of blatant favoritism. It was around the same time that officiating also started getting ridiculously biased in their favor. Every single 3rd-down stop from the opponent was followed by a suspiciously late yellow flag. There was a noticeable drop in how well the team was actually playing every week... but somehow (often with help from the refs), they continued to find ways to win. At this point, Chiefs games are pretty much unwatchable for me. I won't even tune in hoping they lose. I didn't watch the Super Bowl, and didn't even know who won the game for almost a week after. I haven't watched any of their primetime games this year, and probably won't watch another outside of the Bills matchup. I'm not really excited about Sunday's game, and will be very quick to change the channel if things start going south. Seeing that team have any kind of success is literally that nauseating for me. One more point. I think it's just dreadfully boring to watch the same teams win ALL THE TIME. We just suffered through the Patriots for nearly 20 years, and now the Chiefs have made the AFC Championship a whopping 7 years in a row. There are currently 12 franchises (and their fanbases) who have NEVER won a Super Bowl. That's more than 37% of the league.

the perception of just how bad our WR corps is just won Allen MVP last year lol it's not some secretly talented group literally no QB is great at 50+ yard throws

Brady and Dorsey both have/had the same problem of stacking receiving routes way too close to each other. There have been a couple plays recently where we seem to have a receiver and a TE right on top of each other.

I believe he's referring to the classic 'bomb' throw, not the 20 to 30 yard frozen ropes that Josh is so good at throwing. When it comes to bombs, rainbows, balls that have to travel with some touch 35 to 50+ yards in the air, Allen has never been great at this throw. He lacks touch and would badly overthrow his receivers early in his career and now seems to underthrow them more often.

Yeah and when the light came on for Adams it wasn't exactly 1998 Eric Moulds. Still took him another few years to go from a fringe 900-1,000 yard guy to elite. But 12 years into his career he's still really good.

I agree with you. Fundamental football wins time and time again. McDermott is trying to build that with his complimentary model.