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I haven't read through the 12 pages of this thread. I just stopped in to say that while McDermott has his share of flaws, with playoff performance being chief among them... Any insinuation that he's not one of the 10 best coaches in the NFL is simply incorrect. It's an incorrect opinion. Yes, the question is subjective. But to suggest that the guy with the second best win percentage in the NFL since 2020 and six straight playoff trips isn't at least the 10 best coach in the league is simply unreasonable. Where is he between 2nd and 10th? That's a much more interesting and reasonable question. But if you don't think he ranks at least 10th, you're wrong. That is all.

I will never fear playing Miami as long as Tua is the starter there

Obama never had ICE abduct people waiting in line for their legal immigration processes. Obama never had ICE attack senators and mayors, or try to raid a MLB team ballpark. Thats what’s so appalling about Trump’s plan. It’s FAILING. He isn’t anywhere NEAR his quota, despite all the unbelievably cruel and disgusting methods that he’s employing. The people are pushing back more and more. We are identifying ICE operations and warning people in advance. We are denying ICE entry into our private property. We are winning in courts.

Well Fortunately they are not running the country and I was not talking about the dems. Trump won, unite the country.

thinking aaron rodgers ny jets tenure was brutal browns being the browns

Rush wrote this about a close personal friend of the band after he was killed in a car crash.

Baker has no business being on this list IMO. Baker is definitely a top 10 QB right now, and I don't think its really disputable at this point based on how he played last year. Purdy is better than this too

Obama deported more people. Only difference is they left sanctuary cities alone for the most part and the media barely covered the ICE operations. Just because you harbor self-hate doesn’t mean we should absolve our country and dissolve borders and the importance of legal citizenship.

Tua. I simply don't believe that any team with Tua at QB is ever winning a championship. Nothing in his late season or clutch time play history suggests to me that he could go toe-to-toe with the real QB heavyweights or carry his team to a championship. I can more easily envision every QB on that list (including Geno Smith) winning a championship than I can Tua. I'm not trying to be biased or be a jerk because he plays in our division. I just think he's the classic "just good enough to break your heart year after year" guy. Like Ryan Fitzpatrick but with less turnovers and less sense of humor.

100% to me there is no competition between the acrimony he brings, the cap he takes up, never being available, and over all performance... this guy is a mike drop for worst franchise guy...

probably thinking...more things change the more they remain the same

Our authoritarian government has now killed a canadian citizen.

I think Murray is actually the answer as the worst franchise QB in the NFL. I did forget to put him. To your list I would probably shuffle around Baker/Stroud which would put him near the bottom, (every other QB near there has been mentioned in this topic).

These might be a little bit obscure. The first one reads as a bad breakup song, but I think it can also apply to the passing of an important person in your life: The second one reads more as a "my life sucks because of you" song:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/2025-nfl-head-coach-hot-seat-rankings-these-coaches-must-deliver-successful-seasons-or-risk-getting-fired/ar-AA1HtZJX

Sucks, but it’s what you have to do when the looming thread of fascist abductions is ongoing.

deshaun watson.....hands down

The thing that will be heartbreaking is if/when they confirm after his passing that his brain turned into mush from CTE

There is no reason for the federal government to hate this guy so much. It’s pathetic.

"Yeah, but is it fully resolved or mostly resolved?........." CNN

It can be your own definition. You can think the worst guy worth franchise QB money. The worst guy who can lead a team to a Superbowl. Whatever. The only way to get this answer wrong is to name a player you don't think is a franchise QB, like everyone is doing lol. You can say "Dak Prescott is a franchise QB but he's flawed because X, Y and Z, and that's why he's the worst franchise QB" You have missed the point if you say "My answer is Dak Prescott because he isn't a franchise QB."

LMAO “normalcy” There is not a single thing normal about this administration. He’s absolutely right lmfao. Again, you just don’t want to hear it.

I was 11 as well! I remember that I was the only one watching the game at the time, and definitely started screaming insanely after the Kelly run. I honestly think this game and moment was the one that solidified my love of this team and the thrill of watching them do the (seemingly) impossible to win. This ranks up there with the three touchdowns in 1:17 and the Houston comeback from my childhood. So great.

I think Baker is a top 10 QB. The problem here might be who we are considering franchise QB's. For me it is any QB that a franchise has or will hitch their wagons to with a fresh contract. So I don't have Caleb Williams but I do have Jayden Daniels. It doesn't mean Caleb won't be one. But he isn't right now. If you think there are only 10 franchise QB's, then sure, maybe. But if you think there are 15 or so it isn't really close. Absolutely not. Rough order for me Allen Mahomes Lamar Burrow Hurts Stafford Daniels Baker Stroud Purdy Love Lawrence Dak Tua Murray

I think that is a fair assessment. Bills are very deep at defensive line. Beanes whole offseason - FA and draft-Beane prioritized and added many. TJ Sanders looks very promising. Bosa, Walker, Hoecht, Landon Jackson, Ojungobi are nice additions. Nothing rattles a QB more than interior pressure. That’s what Philly did. That’s how Beane drafted Roseau signed a team friendly deal- and is a bargain. Greg is getting better all the time. IMO him and Oliver’s sack totals go up, due to other DL disrupting plays. Solomon could be a sack specialist. Daquan and AJ should be super motivated. on paper Bills D Line looks great. 🤞 Go Bills!