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Yeah? Well… everyone knows the ball travels faster through the air versus on the ground, so…

Ohh I’ll make a prediction they will be saying “Vance was really in charge and pulling the actual strings, Trump was just a puppet”

Whoa….

My take is similar to @SCBills. My guess is that years ago Beane and McD agreed the NFL was a passing league. And they're not wrong: about 2/3rds of the yards gained in the NFL come through the air. They also decided that it's impossible, under the salary cap, to be good at every position group and every facet of the game. So they logically focused on pass offense and pass offense. This philosophy dictated who Beane drafted (e.g. Josh) and who he signed to big FA contracts (e.g. Diggs, Von). Beane has a preference for rangy LBs who can cover, DEs who are sack artists, OL who are better at passpro than road-graders who can push a DL back, and so on. Until Cook opened some eyes and proved his worth, I think Beane would have been happy using cheap RBs on first contracts. This think-pass-first philosophy certainly dictated McD's defensive behavior as well. He runs the nickel more than anyone in the NFL. But on offense, he's a little torn. He likes the chunk plays a passing offense delivers, but he dislikes turnovers. So he's settled on balance, rather than committing primarily to the pass, to help keep defenses guessing and TOs low. But there are a number of problems cropping up. Some teams are complementing their offense with a power running attack that we're not equipped to stop. On offense, our OC is not a passing game whiz. To make matters worse, many of Beane's draft picks and FA acquisitions - on both O and D - haven't panned out which means we're not elite at the two areas we should be philosophically: Pass O and Pass D. Injuries and suspensions haven't helped either. Not only is the think-pass-first philosophy somewhat problematic, its execution has been flawed.

Hmm I guess I am mistaken.

Poyer will really bring the flash

You think they're a package deal because they get along in front of the camera Sean McDermott would absolutely say get rid of beane to save himself another year or two .. beane is competent but has been lacking recently And if you had to make me pick Brandon Bean or Sean McDermott.. it's Sean McDermott McDermott had a hand in our first draft which gave us plenty of studs that beane was not a part of.. Bean did not sign poyer and hyde that was McDermott and his pro-personnel department McDermott's first draft brought in Dion Dawkins and Tre white and Matt Milano

Im not saying our defense is good. In fact I’ve been shredding this team… but Lamar/henry achane Kamara bijan then the jets/pats aren’t slouches with decent backs and mobile QBs. the problem being several of those teams don’t rank well in rushing as they are usually playing out of negative scripts and are forced to pass. instead we invited them all to run on us all game long by letting them hang. Targeting our weakest link with their strongest assets. it’s just not complimentary football to limit drives and shorten the games with this roster. We need to win 38-27 and have a bad scoring defense that can create a turnover or stop by harassing the passer one dimensionally

The Lions last game had an entirely different secondary than they opened the season with. And they performed very well. No excuses, man up and figure it out.

Im sorry but this tired narrative that Sean has little or no responsibility in the selection of these defensive players is absurd. If Beane is so terrible in acquiring "blue chip talent", than you have to ask yourself who made the conscious decision to bring him to Buffalo? Sean McDermott hand picked BB to be his GM. Their philosophy together has always been consistent. They even termed it "the process". These guys are a package deal. They always have and always will be. The odds of Beane being fired and Sean surviving just seem very long to me. They're both so equally to blame.

So how was this D number 1 overall a few years ago?

Really hoping to be back in 1st place by Sunday night. The Pats hype this week has been unreal. "Rebuild complete! Maye is top 3! They're baaaack!!!" Cripes. They beat us in a refball game, and beat the Saints & Titans.

I wonder if they will start Cam Lewis and Cole Bishop over Poyer and Bishop

Yeah, and the chick I went to the prom with was a Hottie…… But that was a long time ago and this is now

From the Army Ranger handbook- The two biggest dangers are a desire for comfort and a passive outlook

That sort of ranking doesn’t apply in football. There are NOT 170 safeties in the draft.

Bravo, it's rare that I LOL.

It’s inexcusable that the 170th pick in the draft isn’t ready to start in game 7 of his rookie season? In all probability, his upside is career backup based solely on his draft slot.

Former Columbo Capo, Michael Franzese, and creator of one of the best Mafia scams ever, weighs in. He does provide a unique perspective.

Absolutely not looking great.. yet we are getting back players that are going to help improve this defense Maxwell hairston is going to bring speed to our secondary that we severely lack and hoecht and ogunjobi are going to stiffen up the front I'm not saying this is going to be a top five defense by January but it should round into form ... This forum doesn't like rapp or Hamlin so now hopefully we insert some speed and they will grow This defense is severely lacking speed

I wish Joe read TBD- we have the answers - literally. Mac Jones passed for 342 yards, 2TDs and beat the Rams with no Kittle, no Aiyuk, no Piersall - Christian has 3x the receptions as James Cook. We suggested Brady copied the 49ers.

I think that your view of the Patriots is very accurate and we are heading in the opposite direction. It is sad to witness, but we have failed to keep up, and it is hitting hard right now. Of all of the teams, why does it have to be the Patriots?

By then he'll be on to Vance is worse than Hitler. Memory holed.

I don't need a "top NFL defense" that "wrecks the NFL." I just want a defense that executes the basics, comes in prepared for the opponent, and has logical situational play calling. All of that falls on coaching.