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Both teams have very impressive WR corps

Yep. I knew this thread was going to lead to 25 Homeloser Bumps of uselessness.

Sean Hochuli is a tool - That is all

They let the Jets score 39 points. If our offense can't put up points against the Bengals then they might as well just pack their bags and call it a season.

I think he was doing every scenario to see if the bills can miss it? The bills are eight and four

Oh its cracking

It's Cleveland, they would have messed it up somehow. Just think, Cleveland has had 42 QBs since 1999, and several of them first overall. The Cleveland Browns gave up three first-round picks (2022, 2023, and 2024), a third-round pick in 2023, and a fourth-round pick in 2022 and 2024 to acquire Deshaun Watson from the Houston Texans. Additionally, they signed Watson to a fully guaranteed five-year contract worth $230 million.

I’m not saying not surviving, more what could have been. He looked amazing.

Josh Allen (and his durability) are the reason. Baltimore has had better rosters but Lamar has had injuries and chokes in the playoffs. Joe Burrow’s injury issues are the biggest reason the Bengals haven’t been consistent. You can say it’s because they’ve invested too heavily in WR’s at the expense of OL, which has perhaps led to his injury problems. Stroud and Herbert aren’t in the convo with the above 3.

Buddy’s still searching for that WR who’s “open when he's covered.”

That would’ve been sick. Cleveland would’ve already had a SB with a competent coach

This, IMO is not a bad look for Beane at all. A player was on waivers and he claimed him. He can't help that Slay had his heart set on Philadelphia. And from what I see, a team can't contact the player or agent and tamper while a guy is on waivers. Y'all would have lost it if Beane did that and it cost the Bills a day two pick. Slay wanted to play the system and got played. And even if his agent tries to play hardball and not deal with the Bills next year as "punishment"...it's a poor look on the agent. If the Bills are high bidder for a player he represents, he would be leaving money for himself and his client on the table. Dumb move. If the Eagles wanted Slay bad enough, they should have given something up at the deadline for him. Maybe they tried and he wasn't available then. But in any event he can report to Buffalo and play ball ..or sit home. Bills should easily be able to recoup his pay if he doesn't report.

Quinn is right about as much as a broken clock I’m not happy either, but that’s not because Ingram is anything but a roster filling JAG. He’s had his chances and has done pretty much nothing with them

Good lord. ...you say you lived through the drought? How, and I do mean how, can you compare the GM lunacy that we had from THAT period to Beane's tenure? The merry-go-round of inconsistency was crazy during that 17 years. We had individual players who were great, or very good. We even had some pretty good sides of the ball. But never for very long, and no consistency. We've had a long period of both with Beane. (And McD) We were the 2nd winningest team and I believe we will become the team with the most number of regular season wins by passing a struggling KC this year. You can say that Josh Allen is the reason, but there is a lot more to team building than that. Look at all the other "franchise" qbs and with the exception of KC, they all have terrible support from a teambuilding perspective. Joe Burrow, Stroud, Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert. Those teams are sometimes very good, but often not. Beane's been better. Beane sure as H- doesn't walk on water. He's made and will continue to make mistakes. Especially on free agent contracts IMO. But to say Beane is comparable to the drought or not a good GM is just absolutely bonkers.

The what if in that scenario is pretty wild. I think they end up with Baker still or Darnold. Supposedly the Giants were Barkley, then Allen. I think it would have gone like this Barkley Allen Darnold Mayfield

No, it's cool. Just dissing the Browns and their stupidity in thankfully not drafting Josh Allen 2x. There was word that they really liked him at the #1 overall until someone made mention of Allen's sort of racial tweets when he was in high school....Brandon!

The good thing for the Browns is that they know Deshaun is a finisher. Always gets a job done until completion