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And? Despite that latter-day miracle, they still lost scoring under 20 points. The defense has all the stoutness of a baby ***** filled diaper and the offense is remedial. This team has the same odds the Jaguar do to win a title. ZERO.

I’ve been a steadfast believer in McD but no more. Unfortunately I don’t think Pegula will fire him. He picks bad coordinators, he spends premium assets on the D line and they still suck. If you want to say Beane picks the players, that’s fine. Fire them both. They have failed Josh Allen. They have the best player in the NFL who is on a team friendly deal and they can’t build a decent team around him. Our WRs our ***** among other things.

An L against a fact free argument? Who would?

And we have Josh Allen.

No

And this is why they should have kicked the FG every time and walked away with a win.

I guess that is an ambiguous statement lol

It stopped being fun the season after 13 seconds. It was a slow creep, but as the offense got worse, the defense started to lose the playmakers, then the injuries have sucked the life out of the team for 4 seasons. That slow march to all stress got worse with Hamlin almost dying on the field. Then you have the Officials always rearing their ugly heads. You are always expecting a flag on every play. This season feels like smoke and mirrors. Somehow with this boring offense and this epically bad defense we are 7-4. But the really bad losses in easily winnable games are accumulating. Tonight was fun for a few seconds during the hook and ladder play on 4th and 27 but it felt like a drop in an ocean of disgust I already felt.

They did convert a 4th and 27

You have to protect the ball when you play slow, plodding clock control complementary offense because every drive comes at a premium

How long did it take to get Cook involved in the passing game after seeing how it helped against Tampa? No Shavers? Ok. Let's keep starting games with what hasn't worked.

Man I was beating the OL drum before the game, and was excited to see how they’d show up for Thursday night vs a strong defensive front. Very disappointing. Props to Houston. Before I called them very good, and I will take that back and say they were great last night.

they deserve no rest if they let the other team run down the field every other drive. 3 and outs aren't killers if you get the ball 12 times and score 5 of those times.

What amazes me is how many times we are breaking the huddle it’s 12 or less seconds left on play clock. Every snap seems to be with 2 or less seconds. Seems like Brady can’t focus on a sequence of plays so he know what’s next once previous play is over . Time to fire the amateur and get someone else in there.

Anything can not in fact happen.

Not sure what game you were watching but Shavers and Gabe were out there a lot. Who isn’t playing that can help us score?

Make the playoffs. Anything can happen.

My guy, it's closed. His roster hit is too high, and his talent level is too high as well. What that means is you're drafting late in rounds, missing out on elite talent year in and year out. That gives you a starting roster of Josh Allen and 21 Terrell Bernard types. This team will never again with Josh Allen under center rise to the level of a super bowl contender.

And McD...

He was catching passes for Josh in the second half when Josh hit his arm and was throwing on the sidelines.

At this point better to lose out. Why even bother. The team gave up last night anyways. The coach is starting to lose this team now.

Giants didn’t trade Barkley and Kafka calls offensive plays in NJ. Kromer is most of the run game here. I do agree that the run game when Daboll was here was meh but they also had meh backs.

This is the problem with Beane and McD feeling their jobs are not only secure but bulletproof— the win now mentality and urgency just isn’t there. Beane won’t trade away an important pick he thinks he’ll be making, but he might be more inclined if he thinks another GM is going to be the one using it.

Allen got pressured 28 times in this game. I'm surprised he's alive. Hard to criticize a guy for not dying

That is the repeated refrain of the seam McDermott era. Utterly physically dominated constantly on a weekly basis. I'm tired of it