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Our disagreement was really his ceiling as a player vs his ceiling as a Buffalo Bill under a Joe Brady offense. Whatever you think his ceiling is here with Brady, I think it is higher if he was on another team outside Brady’s offense. He was on a 1000 yard pace last year had he not missed 2 1/2 games (game he left early getting hurt, game he missed while hurt, and week 18 when we sat out top players) he would have been a 1000+ yard receiver. And that’s on an offense that under utilizes him and forces way too many throws to him at or near the LOS. If he was on a team playing next to a legit WR1 in a passing offense, like say the Rams next to Nacua, I think it’s quite plausible he could add another couple hundred yards to his production. Especially if he’s getting more than just bubble screens thrown to him half the time. Or put him on a team that knows how to maximize his talents like KC and he would feast. So where we disagree is that his production has peaked here overall based on his abilities. Where I do agree is that his production ceiling here under Joe Brady is what we are seeing, especially with us missing a true WR1 and any downfield threat. But he’s better than what we get out of him.

My 1986 Mets agree and nod with approval

lol… one of the inaugural Youtube videos

They were 1 elite pass rusher from getting by KC. That wasn’t a long play. That was meant to instantly put them over the top. He was just coming off getting the Rams over the top. If healthy, they would have had 2 to 3 years to win one (or more). You had prime Josh and were 13 seconds away from a Super Bowl. That wasn’t time to worry about 3 years from now. It didn’t work but I absolutely, 100% supported it at the time and still do. On a side note, I’d love to have the conversation over some drinks. 🤣🤣 I’ve gotten into some good bourbons over the last few years. Let’s do it!! TBD Christmas party!!

Russia's wish list, prepared by the US...all makes sense. Is there actually anyone that you can believe. A politician, a bureaucrat, a reporter, a publisher.

This topic hits close to home after this week. This did not get enough attention in my opinion. What have we seen to think the Bills will, or could be the outlier?

The culture is dead

We already have a couple of putzes. It just isn't made public.

Confused. So yes you want him or no?

Despite the loss, Danielle Hunter is a class act in my book. Could’ve absolute wrecked Josh’s knee. Here’s the clip…. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRYefYADIfp/?igsh=YmZuc3NrNGNyMzZh

I can’t disagree with this take more, wow. Philosophically, I have no idea how anyone could land there. It’s such a different lens than how I see the team. This would actually be a great debate over a couple drinks, because clearly we’re coming at this from completely opposite angles.

Also one that you invented, Anus Man. This is a departure from your usual orifice of interest.

It is alot of about expectations. The expectation or Allen for each game, is that he breaks some all-time NFL record, and plays a near perfect game. Often he can't meet that expectation. The expectation for the defense is "hey they are 31'st against the run because they suck, if they give up less than 40 points, its only due to the miracle of coaching" . And the defense is often able to exceed this expectation.

Brown was getting slapped around before he got hurt. Dion Dawkins just doesn't seem to care about anything except donuts and his "Schnow Brand".

Please don't post fake nonsense here.

I think we’re past the point of excuses. Every team plays the same number of games in the same amount of time. Some years the schedule looks tougher on paper, some easier and this year was supposed to be one of the easier ones. Every team deals with injuries. The great ones overcome them. The Rams literally signed a guy off the street to play safety and still won the Super Bowl. And honestly, that was the Bills’ window. After :13 seconds, I was ready for major changes, because deep down we all knew that was the chance, just like the Lions/49ers meltdown. In hindsight, that was the moment. At some point, we have to define what “good” actually means. Good teams impose their will. They force opponents to adjust. They don’t live in a world of ifs. That’s not the Bills right now. We’re stuck as a “good enough” team, endlessly chasing the carrot. We comfort ourselves with the same worn-out phrases: If we were healthy… If Josh had one more second… If he catches that ball…If we recover that fumble… It’s always something. We’ve become Uncle Rico: “If coach had just put me in we would have won state…” And the worst part? It’s not even fun anymore. Every game feels like Season 18 of The Walking Dead just limping forward, hoping the next episode suddenly makes it worth watching again. At some point, the results speak for themselves. There’s no quick fix left. A real philosophical shift has to be on the table.

I said it in another thread and I'll repeat it. Bringing Daboll back would be like going back to your ex...only to be reminded quickly why they are your ex. They guy was just as frustrating as Brady. The same tendency to call those cute plays at the wrong time. He would frequently abandon the run. No thank you. Let's get someone with a fresh outlook.

That's what I thought but I found it interesting that in all he responses on bringing in Daboll, he always says, we aren't interested at this time. It's from "The Bills Supefan" Facebook group.

is that from one of those facebook groups titled something like “Best #1 Buffalo Football Fans”??

It’s soooo stupid because I watched some and there to think there is a theme of “white man bad” is such a reach…it’s not even worth responding to. How effing maga can take a show that shows the progress to freedom…everything the “think” they are for and diss it….because PBS….just shows how hollow they really are. The whole Crispus Attucks and Lex Concord episode crazy.