I am sick of hearing about how our coaching sucks....

[SKOOBY]

We have a bunch of Bills haters in the press talking about nothing. We had a great draft, revamped our O-line and picked up the highest producing WR over the past 3 years. Dallas didn't win any SB with T.O. either but they can buy anyone they want and we have their best offensive weapon now. Stroud was a weapon last year, POZ our highest producing tackler, we now have a new great first stepper in Maybin and have a few healthy people coming back.

 

I attribute all of this to our current coaching staff and give 0 credit outside of it. I see bigger things for us this year and the light will finally shine on Buffalo instead of the usual suspects. DJ, Russ and crew get this season to put it all together, they have my support, the bigger question is do they have yours?

[KD in CA]

You attribute 100% of the credit for draft picks and free agent signings to the coaching staff? Well, ok.

[silvermike]

Don't we know how the Bills got TO? Trent Edwards texted Russ Brandon? That seems to leave the entire coaching staff out of the equation.

[nucci]

We have a bunch of Bills haters in the press talking about nothing. We had a great draft, revamped our O-line and picked up the highest producing WR over the past 3 years. Dallas didn't win any SB with T.O. either but they can buy anyone they want and we have their best offensive weapon now. Stroud was a weapon last year, POZ our highest producing tackler, we now have a new great first stepper in Maybin and have a few healthy people coming back.

 

I attribute all of this to our current coaching staff and give 0 credit outside of it. I see bigger things for us this year and the light will finally shine on Buffalo instead of the usual suspects. DJ, Russ and crew get this season to put it all together, they have my support, the bigger question is do they have yours?

My problems with the staff are:

A DC who rushes the same 4 guys the same way every down and plays a soft secondary.

An OC who continually lines up in the shotgun with an empty backfield on 2nd/3rd down and short yardage.

[evilbuffalobob]

Gameday coaching SUCKS, as does Gameday emotion.

 

Either you have it or you don't. DJ Don't.

 

Perhaps showing some G o d D a m n emotion on the sideline (beyond Bobby April) would counteract a portion of what's lacking in coaching instinct.

[DC Tom]

We have a bunch of Bills haters in the press talking about nothing. We had a great draft, revamped our O-line and picked up the highest producing WR over the past 3 years. Dallas didn't win any SB with T.O. either but they can buy anyone they want and we have their best offensive weapon now. Stroud was a weapon last year, POZ our highest producing tackler, we now have a new great first stepper in Maybin and have a few healthy people coming back.

 

I attribute all of this to our current coaching staff and give 0 credit outside of it. I see bigger things for us this year and the light will finally shine on Buffalo instead of the usual suspects. DJ, Russ and crew get this season to put it all together, they have my support, the bigger question is do they have yours?

 

A coach who in HIS ENTIRE CAREER has one winning season.

 

Wrap your head around that simple concept, monkey-boy, and then get back to us.

[SKOOBY]

A coach who in HIS ENTIRE CAREER has one winning season.

 

Wrap your head around that simple concept, monkey-boy, and then get back to us.

 

Bellycheat coached the Browns early in his career as well.

[DC Tom]

Bellycheat coached the Browns early in his career as well.

 

NINE winning seasons in his career.

 

Last I checked, nine is more than one.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

NINE winning seasons in his career.

 

Last I checked, nine is more than one.

 

Never thought I'd say this, but point goes to Skooby...he wasn't comparing the current resumes of the two coaches and he's correct in his assertion that a coach's failures do not preclude later success given the right circumstances. I'm sure Browns fans were saying the exact same things about Belichick that we say about Jauron these days.

[Dr. Trooth]

Anyone can rationalize anything. But, the trooth is the trooth. And, at the end of the day Dick Jauron is a loser... flat out, period, end of story. And, that's the trooth.

[The Dean]

We have a bunch of Bills haters in the press talking about nothing.

 

 

This is when I bailed.

[DC Tom]

Never thought I'd say this, but point goes to Skooby...he wasn't comparing the current resumes of the two coaches and he's correct in his assertion that a coach's failures do not preclude later success given the right circumstances. I'm sure Browns fans were saying the exact same things about Belichick that we say about Jauron these days.

 

Okay...let's talk up until their third year with their current team.

 

Belichick: three.

Jauron: one.

 

Or, just their current team.

Beilchick: eight.

Jauron: zero.

 

Or their first two teams:

Belichick: nine.

Jauron: one.

 

Or their last two teams.

Belichick: nine.

Jauron: zero.

 

The bottom line, though, is that Skooby's an ass, trying to use Belichick to defend Jauron's lack of production. The simple fact that he'd even TRY demonstrates the fallacy of his "our coaching doesn't suck" thesis: if it didn't suck, he wouldn't have to use other coaches' records to justify our coaches' lack thereof.

[Max997]

with the exception of April this is one of the worst coaching staffs Ive ever seen...DJ is too soft on his players during training camp and practice and it shows on the field...i dont get how a guy who has had one winning season in 8 as an NFL head coach can still be a head coach in the NFL

 

the play calling on both sides of the ball is predictable and the game plan seems to be the same every week no matter who they are playing...the defensive system counts on the offense not being able to put long drives together which might work against bad teams but doesnt against good teams like the Pats or Colts....the love affair with CBs doesnt make sense when they insist on playing their corners 10-12 yards off the line of scrimmage just giving the offense the quick slants and 10 yard stop patterns

 

the offensive playcalling reminds me of Rich Kotite, no real system, just a guy calling plays with no creativity to get guys open...the team refuses to work the middle down the field, everything is either within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage or to the outside

 

Maybin is a HUGE risk and teams like the Bills that havent made the playoffs in 10 years cant afford to draft a player like that

 

it doesnt make sense to draft a CB high in the second round that they plan on moving to FS when Whitner has come out and said that he is be moving to FS as well...I understand the need for depth but if they didnt draft Byrd to be a starter this year or next why the hell did they draft him when there were numerous other players on the board that could help the Bills this year

[Guest dog14787]

 

This is when I bailed.

 

 

Always full of compliments aren't we Dean, have nothing better to say just insult their posts.

 

 

Why don't you take your BS somewhere else.

[KD in CA]

Never thought I'd say this, but point goes to Skooby...he wasn't comparing the current resumes of the two coaches and he's correct in his assertion that a coach's failures do not preclude later success given the right circumstances. I'm sure Browns fans were saying the exact same things about Belichick that we say about Jauron these days.

 

The point isn't about comparing coaches, it's about discrediting the stupid "Belichick sucked in Cleveland too" argument. History shows that people in Cleveland were wrong about Belicheat and that they passed judgment too early on a young coach.

 

Jauron is not a young coach. He's had nine years and 3 teams and except for one fluky season has had a losing record every time. A .429 lifetime winning % puts him on par with guys like Herm Edwards and Rich Kotite.

 

Obviously the past does not preclude things happening in the future in almost any circumstance, but after watching Jauron for the past 3 years, I would say it's very unlikely that he'll have the Bills challenging for a championship.

[Whites Bay]

Skoobster, I'll give you credit. You're very good at rolling the grenade down the aisle, and then screaming "Fire". It's the off-season, and crayonz is occupied.

[evilbuffalobob]

Belicheat and DJ both share emotion of a body hacked-up by a chainsaw. HOWEVER, someone on that GD Patriocheat coaching staff gets those players fired-up... each and every G o d D a m n game. We don't have that. No fire.

[SKOOBY]

The point isn't about comparing coaches, it's about discrediting the stupid "Belichick sucked in Cleveland too" argument. History shows that people in Cleveland were wrong about Belicheat and that they passed judgment too early on a young coach.

 

Jauron is not a young coach. He's had nine years and 3 teams and except for one fluky season has had a losing record every time. A .429 lifetime winning % puts him on par with guys like Herm Edwards and Rich Kotite.

 

Obviously the past does not preclude things happening in the future in almost any circumstance, but after watching Jauron for the past 3 years, I would say it's very unlikely that he'll have the Bills challenging for a championship.

 

 

Pre-Tom Brady, I would call Bellycheat average at best. It took one guy like Tom Brady (however sickening saying it makes me) to get BB a much higher level of success. Montana made San Fran into a powerhouse and made Walsh look like a genius.

 

My point is a coaches greatness in the NFL is really determined by what kind of players they field. The Bills have basically fielded losers for 9 years and we never really put together a drafted O-line since then, nor had 2 top flight WR's like we do now. We have the talent to go out and run the ball well. We also have probably the deepest WR cores in the league, chalked full of speed / talent.

 

The last time DJ had a team this talented, he went 13-3. I personally expect a similiar result, 11-5 / 12-4. We can't win them all this season but we can actually know that we can win every game we play in, even if we don't win.

[billsfan89]

We have a bunch of Bills haters in the press talking about nothing. We had a great draft, revamped our O-line and picked up the highest producing WR over the past 3 years. Dallas didn't win any SB with T.O. either but they can buy anyone they want and we have their best offensive weapon now. Stroud was a weapon last year, POZ our highest producing tackler, we now have a new great first stepper in Maybin and have a few healthy people coming back.

 

I attribute all of this to our current coaching staff and give 0 credit outside of it. I see bigger things for us this year and the light will finally shine on Buffalo instead of the usual suspects. DJ, Russ and crew get this season to put it all together, they have my support, the bigger question is do they have yours?

 

When in the last 3 years have you ever heard about DJ out coaching the other team. Than how many times do you see DJ getting out coached. DJ sucks plain and simple. Now you can say that we have developed some players thanks to the coaching staff is a better argument to the merit of the coaching staff. Besides Bobby April I don't like the coaching staff one bit.

 

Simply put DJ gets out coached on a consistent basis thats why a lot of people think our coaching sucks.

[The Dean]

Always full of compliments aren't we Dean, have nothing better to say just insult their posts.

 

 

Why don't you take your BS somewhere else.

 

 

I've explained this to you before. I don't expect you to understand, or remember, for that matter.

 

Intelligent posts, and posters, get treated in kind. Skooby doesn't make that cut.

[Never NEVER Give-up]

I think the underlying point of the topic is the overwhelming negativity 2 months before they even play a real down.

 

Not happy the coaches are staying for another year? OK - that's your right! You voiced your opinion - now give it a rest will ya!!!!

 

Are you for or against this team? Are you going to cheer for them or hope they lose enough to get Jauron canned (then we can start all over again)?

 

I for one am willing to admit the former all-pro DB knows more about the game than I do. Ralph hired him and he's the guy to hopefully lead the team to the playoffs and beyond. I'm pulling for him 100%!!! I hope he gets coach of the year. . . maybe for the only reason that it would tick-off so many of you nabobs of negativity.

 

So please, if you are a real fan - accept the fact DJ is here for the year and direct your focus, energy and spirit toward the product on the field. Go Bills!!

 

If the unacceptable occurs - and we won't definitively know this until December - then we can focus on rebuilding. But for now the focus should be on whether the offense can average 24 ppg and if the defense can take the ball away more than 20 times in a season and improve on their defensive ranking and keeping opponents to under 20 ppg on average. This is more positive and FUN for all.

 

Reading the constant whining is getting to be so predictable that I only check posts weekly now - so tired of these cry babies!! These are the same people who see a beautiful sunny day and say "but it's gonna rain tomorrow!" Let's accept what we have now - a DJ-coached team - and hope we play .750 ball. There'll be plenty of time to call for his head in January if we play 7-9 ball again.

 

Until then I remain hopeful and will be pulling for my team. I believe they made some upgrades during the offseason, rid themselves of some problem players, and hope the many, many young players take another step forward and reward DJ's and Ralph's patience in them by carrying the team far into January.

[murra]

Intelligent posts, and posters, get treated in kind. Skooby doesn't make that cut.

 

As proven by:

 

My point is a coaches greatness in the NFL is really determined by what kind of players they field.

 

Don't worry Dean, you're not alone.

[Guest dog14787]

I've explained this to you before. I don't expect you to understand, or remember, for that matter.

 

Intelligent posts, and posters, get treated in kind. Skooby doesn't make that cut.

 

 

Oh, So you are judge and jury on who gets respect and who gets belittled? how about if you don't like someones post or thread, keep your nose and meaningless opinion out of it, does that make any sense to you? Why go out of your way to insult folks on this board because they don't meat up to your standards? Like i said, then take your BS and your little prick arse to a different thread.

[murra]

Oh, So you are judge and jury on who gets respect and who gets belittled? how about if you don't like someones post or thread, keep your nose and meaningless opinion out of it, does that make any sense to you? Why go out of your way to insult folks on this board because they don't meat up to your standards? Like i said, then take your BS and your little prick arse to a different thread.

 

You're out of line buddy. This is an internet forum devoted to an NFL team. Even SKOOBY doesn't care that every other thing he posts gets flamed, why should you?

 

Also, there is no need to make everything so personal. We're all Bills fans here. Some perhaps with a little more intelligence than others, but Bills fans nonetheless.

 

 

Edit*: Oh, and try to use the correct spelling when trying to drive home your point. It's meet, not "meat."

[Guest dog14787]

You're out of line buddy. This is an internet forum devoted to an NFL team. Even SKOOBY doesn't care that every other thing he posts gets flamed, why should you?

 

Also, there is no need to make everything so personal. We're all Bills fans here. Some perhaps with a little more intelligence than others, but Bills fans nonetheless.

 

 

I'm not out of line and your not one of the folks he's constantly insulting.

[The Dean]

Oh, So you are judge and jury on who gets respect and who gets belittled?

 

 

I am judge and jury for whom I choose to give respect and/or belittle.

 

What a bizarre question...even for you, dog.

[crazyDingo]

I certainly think you are all out of line. First, All Dick needs is to win 3 or 4 Super Bowls. Big deal, so he hasnt done it yet, It doesn't mean he can't win 3 Super Bowls this year. I am on SKOOB Y's side, Dick Jauron and the coaching staff suck.

[murra]

I am on SKOOBY's side, Dick Jauron and the coaching staff suck.

 

That's not SKOOBY's side.

[The Dean]

That's not SKOOBY's side.

 

 

...in this thread.

[murra]

...in this thread.

 

Brilliant point. I was curious to see how blatant his opinion had changed since the start of the offseason.

 

Enjoy: http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...06&hl=coach

[HurlyBurly51]

Always full of compliments aren't we Dean, have nothing better to say just insult their posts.

 

 

Why don't you take your BS somewhere else.

 

Aren't you doing the same thing? Dean is a long time respected poster. You - not so much. If anyone should take their BS elsewhere, I vote for you.

[Guest dog14787]

I certainly think you are all out of line. First, All Dick needs is to win 3 or 4 Super Bowls. Big deal, so he hasnt done it yet, It doesn't mean he can't win 3 Super Bowls this year. I am on SKOOB Y's side, Dick Jauron and the coaching staff suck.

 

 

I'll say it again, your not one of the folks Dean is constantly insulting. Tell me then, what good is it to insult someones intelligence on a post or thread that you care nothing about, I mean I'm not perfect , but I don't go around insulting other posters based on my standards.

[Guest dog14787]

Aren't you doing the same thing? Dean is a long time respected poster. You - not so much. If anyone should take their BS elsewhere, I vote for you.

 

 

Long time maybe, respected I'm not so sure and I have a right to defend myself and other posters to his constant barrage of insults, it gets old and it just causes problems.

[HurlyBurly51]

I mean I'm not perfect , but I don't go around insulting other posters based on my standards.

 

Yes you do. I've seen it. So quit yer whining and crying like a little schoolgirl:thumbdown:

[The Dean]

Brilliant point. I was curious to see how blatant his opinion had changed since the start of the offseason.

 

Enjoy: http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...06&hl=coach

 

 

I'm not sure Skooby ever has an honest position. I am convinced he is here to simply disrupt the board with his regular onslaught of pointless threads. I think Skooby's main position is, "Look at me, look at me, look at me!"

[crazyDingo]

I'll say it again, your not one of the folks Dean is constantly insulting. Tell me then, what good is it to insult someones intelligence on a post or thread that you care nothing about, I mean I'm not perfect , but I don't go around insulting other posters based on my standards.

For your information, Dean constantly insults me with his smoldering gaze and pontificationalizing pontifiveness, but do I let it bother me?

 

Yes, I do.

 

Point being, if I can still enjoy posting under the crushing weight of the disapproval of faceless strangers, so can you. And SKOOBY desreves it which is why I am siding with hi. He is always the underdog which I admire. He is right, Dick Jauron and the coaching staff suck.

[Guest dog14787]

I'm not sure Skooby ever has an honest position. I am convinced he is here to simply disrupt the board with his regular onslaught of pointless threads. I think Skooby's main position is, "Look at me, look at me, look at me!"

What are you still doing here then?

[The Dean]

I don't go around insulting other posters based on my standards.

 

 

I'd like to give you credit for that, if it were true. It is a good idea for YOU to refrain from using YOUR standards.

 

Harrumph!

[murra]

For your information, Dean constantly insults me with his smoldering gaze and pontificationalizing pontifiveness, but do I let it bother me?

 

Yes, I do.

 

Point being, if I can still enjoy posting under the crushing weight of the disapproval of faceless strangers, so can you. And SKOOBY desreves it which is why I am siding with hi. He is always the underdog which I admire. He is right, Dick Jauron and the coaching staff suck.

 

You the man, ieatcrayonz.

[The Dean]

You the man, ieatcrayonz.