SKOOBY Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 We have a bunch of Bills haters in the press talking about nothing. We had a great draft, revamped our O-line and picked up the highest producing WR over the past 3 years. Dallas didn't win any SB with T.O. either but they can buy anyone they want and we have their best offensive weapon now. Stroud was a weapon last year, POZ our highest producing tackler, we now have a new great first stepper in Maybin and have a few healthy people coming back. I attribute all of this to our current coaching staff and give 0 credit outside of it. I see bigger things for us this year and the light will finally shine on Buffalo instead of the usual suspects. DJ, Russ and crew get this season to put it all together, they have my support, the bigger question is do they have yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 You attribute 100% of the credit for draft picks and free agent signings to the coaching staff? Well, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Don't we know how the Bills got TO? Trent Edwards texted Russ Brandon? That seems to leave the entire coaching staff out of the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 We have a bunch of Bills haters in the press talking about nothing. We had a great draft, revamped our O-line and picked up the highest producing WR over the past 3 years. Dallas didn't win any SB with T.O. either but they can buy anyone they want and we have their best offensive weapon now. Stroud was a weapon last year, POZ our highest producing tackler, we now have a new great first stepper in Maybin and have a few healthy people coming back. I attribute all of this to our current coaching staff and give 0 credit outside of it. I see bigger things for us this year and the light will finally shine on Buffalo instead of the usual suspects. DJ, Russ and crew get this season to put it all together, they have my support, the bigger question is do they have yours? My problems with the staff are: A DC who rushes the same 4 guys the same way every down and plays a soft secondary. An OC who continually lines up in the shotgun with an empty backfield on 2nd/3rd down and short yardage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbuffalobob Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Gameday coaching SUCKS, as does Gameday emotion. Either you have it or you don't. DJ Don't. Perhaps showing some G o d D a m n emotion on the sideline (beyond Bobby April) would counteract a portion of what's lacking in coaching instinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 We have a bunch of Bills haters in the press talking about nothing. We had a great draft, revamped our O-line and picked up the highest producing WR over the past 3 years. Dallas didn't win any SB with T.O. either but they can buy anyone they want and we have their best offensive weapon now. Stroud was a weapon last year, POZ our highest producing tackler, we now have a new great first stepper in Maybin and have a few healthy people coming back. I attribute all of this to our current coaching staff and give 0 credit outside of it. I see bigger things for us this year and the light will finally shine on Buffalo instead of the usual suspects. DJ, Russ and crew get this season to put it all together, they have my support, the bigger question is do they have yours? A coach who in HIS ENTIRE CAREER has one winning season. Wrap your head around that simple concept, monkey-boy, and then get back to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 A coach who in HIS ENTIRE CAREER has one winning season. Wrap your head around that simple concept, monkey-boy, and then get back to us. Bellycheat coached the Browns early in his career as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Bellycheat coached the Browns early in his career as well. NINE winning seasons in his career. Last I checked, nine is more than one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 NINE winning seasons in his career. Last I checked, nine is more than one. Never thought I'd say this, but point goes to Skooby...he wasn't comparing the current resumes of the two coaches and he's correct in his assertion that a coach's failures do not preclude later success given the right circumstances. I'm sure Browns fans were saying the exact same things about Belichick that we say about Jauron these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Anyone can rationalize anything. But, the trooth is the trooth. And, at the end of the day Dick Jauron is a loser... flat out, period, end of story. And, that's the trooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 We have a bunch of Bills haters in the press talking about nothing. This is when I bailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Never thought I'd say this, but point goes to Skooby...he wasn't comparing the current resumes of the two coaches and he's correct in his assertion that a coach's failures do not preclude later success given the right circumstances. I'm sure Browns fans were saying the exact same things about Belichick that we say about Jauron these days. Okay...let's talk up until their third year with their current team. Belichick: three. Jauron: one. Or, just their current team. Beilchick: eight. Jauron: zero. Or their first two teams: Belichick: nine. Jauron: one. Or their last two teams. Belichick: nine. Jauron: zero. The bottom line, though, is that Skooby's an ass, trying to use Belichick to defend Jauron's lack of production. The simple fact that he'd even TRY demonstrates the fallacy of his "our coaching doesn't suck" thesis: if it didn't suck, he wouldn't have to use other coaches' records to justify our coaches' lack thereof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 with the exception of April this is one of the worst coaching staffs Ive ever seen...DJ is too soft on his players during training camp and practice and it shows on the field...i dont get how a guy who has had one winning season in 8 as an NFL head coach can still be a head coach in the NFL the play calling on both sides of the ball is predictable and the game plan seems to be the same every week no matter who they are playing...the defensive system counts on the offense not being able to put long drives together which might work against bad teams but doesnt against good teams like the Pats or Colts....the love affair with CBs doesnt make sense when they insist on playing their corners 10-12 yards off the line of scrimmage just giving the offense the quick slants and 10 yard stop patterns the offensive playcalling reminds me of Rich Kotite, no real system, just a guy calling plays with no creativity to get guys open...the team refuses to work the middle down the field, everything is either within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage or to the outside Maybin is a HUGE risk and teams like the Bills that havent made the playoffs in 10 years cant afford to draft a player like that it doesnt make sense to draft a CB high in the second round that they plan on moving to FS when Whitner has come out and said that he is be moving to FS as well...I understand the need for depth but if they didnt draft Byrd to be a starter this year or next why the hell did they draft him when there were numerous other players on the board that could help the Bills this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 This is when I bailed. Always full of compliments aren't we Dean, have nothing better to say just insult their posts. Why don't you take your BS somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Never thought I'd say this, but point goes to Skooby...he wasn't comparing the current resumes of the two coaches and he's correct in his assertion that a coach's failures do not preclude later success given the right circumstances. I'm sure Browns fans were saying the exact same things about Belichick that we say about Jauron these days. The point isn't about comparing coaches, it's about discrediting the stupid "Belichick sucked in Cleveland too" argument. History shows that people in Cleveland were wrong about Belicheat and that they passed judgment too early on a young coach. Jauron is not a young coach. He's had nine years and 3 teams and except for one fluky season has had a losing record every time. A .429 lifetime winning % puts him on par with guys like Herm Edwards and Rich Kotite. Obviously the past does not preclude things happening in the future in almost any circumstance, but after watching Jauron for the past 3 years, I would say it's very unlikely that he'll have the Bills challenging for a championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Bay Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Skoobster, I'll give you credit. You're very good at rolling the grenade down the aisle, and then screaming "Fire". It's the off-season, and crayonz is occupied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbuffalobob Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Belicheat and DJ both share emotion of a body hacked-up by a chainsaw. HOWEVER, someone on that GD Patriocheat coaching staff gets those players fired-up... each and every G o d D a m n game. We don't have that. No fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 The point isn't about comparing coaches, it's about discrediting the stupid "Belichick sucked in Cleveland too" argument. History shows that people in Cleveland were wrong about Belicheat and that they passed judgment too early on a young coach. Jauron is not a young coach. He's had nine years and 3 teams and except for one fluky season has had a losing record every time. A .429 lifetime winning % puts him on par with guys like Herm Edwards and Rich Kotite. Obviously the past does not preclude things happening in the future in almost any circumstance, but after watching Jauron for the past 3 years, I would say it's very unlikely that he'll have the Bills challenging for a championship. Pre-Tom Brady, I would call Bellycheat average at best. It took one guy like Tom Brady (however sickening saying it makes me) to get BB a much higher level of success. Montana made San Fran into a powerhouse and made Walsh look like a genius. My point is a coaches greatness in the NFL is really determined by what kind of players they field. The Bills have basically fielded losers for 9 years and we never really put together a drafted O-line since then, nor had 2 top flight WR's like we do now. We have the talent to go out and run the ball well. We also have probably the deepest WR cores in the league, chalked full of speed / talent. The last time DJ had a team this talented, he went 13-3. I personally expect a similiar result, 11-5 / 12-4. We can't win them all this season but we can actually know that we can win every game we play in, even if we don't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 We have a bunch of Bills haters in the press talking about nothing. We had a great draft, revamped our O-line and picked up the highest producing WR over the past 3 years. Dallas didn't win any SB with T.O. either but they can buy anyone they want and we have their best offensive weapon now. Stroud was a weapon last year, POZ our highest producing tackler, we now have a new great first stepper in Maybin and have a few healthy people coming back. I attribute all of this to our current coaching staff and give 0 credit outside of it. I see bigger things for us this year and the light will finally shine on Buffalo instead of the usual suspects. DJ, Russ and crew get this season to put it all together, they have my support, the bigger question is do they have yours? When in the last 3 years have you ever heard about DJ out coaching the other team. Than how many times do you see DJ getting out coached. DJ sucks plain and simple. Now you can say that we have developed some players thanks to the coaching staff is a better argument to the merit of the coaching staff. Besides Bobby April I don't like the coaching staff one bit. Simply put DJ gets out coached on a consistent basis thats why a lot of people think our coaching sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Always full of compliments aren't we Dean, have nothing better to say just insult their posts. Why don't you take your BS somewhere else. I've explained this to you before. I don't expect you to understand, or remember, for that matter. Intelligent posts, and posters, get treated in kind. Skooby doesn't make that cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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