boobybanger69 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Ryan Fitzpatrick is atrocious. He can't play at all. We brought him in for a visit and courted a guy who nobody else wanted to sign. Our front office JUMPED at the opportunity to sign a dude with a career 66.9 passer rating and a head the size of one of those freaky chick's boobs you find on you porn when you type into the search engine "Huge Titties"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Well Fitz is a guy who can if Trent went down for Four games he could keep the team afloat and go 2-2. But if we have to rely on him for much more than I think we will go 7-9 or 6-10. We can win a few games with Fitz but he can't take us to aplayoff at best he is a guy who can be a .500 QB when a team is playing well. If Trent were to go down for the season during a pre-season game than i could see the Bills going after Vick as a total desperation move. I don't know much about our third string QB but if Trent goes down for a long period of time early in the season i would rather put him in just to see what he has because Fitz is what he is and I would rather take a chance on the third string guy. Can anyone tell me what the Bills Third string guy is like and if he has any sort of potential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boobybanger69 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Well Fitz is a guy who can if Trent went down for Four games he could keep the team afloat and go 2-2. But if we have to rely on him for much more than I think we will go 7-9 or 6-10. We can win a few games with Fitz but he can't take us to aplayoff at best he is a guy who can be a .500 QB when a team is playing well. If Trent were to go down for the season during a pre-season game than i could see the Bills going after Vick as a total desperation move. I don't know much about our third string QB but if Trent goes down for a long period of time early in the season i would rather put him in just to see what he has because Fitz is what he is and I would rather take a chance on the third string guy. Can anyone tell me what the Bills Third string guy is like and if he has any sort of potential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Well Fitz is a guy who can if Trent went down for Four games he could keep the team afloat and go 2-2. But if we have to rely on him for much more than I think we will go 7-9 or 6-10. We can win a few games with Fitz but he can't take us to aplayoff at best he is a guy who can be a .500 QB when a team is playing well. If Trent were to go down for the season during a pre-season game than i could see the Bills going after Vick as a total desperation move. I don't know much about our third string QB but if Trent goes down for a long period of time early in the season i would rather put him in just to see what he has because Fitz is what he is and I would rather take a chance on the third string guy. Can anyone tell me what the Bills Third string guy is like and if he has any sort of potential? 7-9 is as good it gets with Trent so Fitz must be pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Well Fitz is a guy who can if Trent went down for Four games he could keep the team afloat and go 2-2. But if we have to rely on him for much more than I think we will go 7-9 or 6-10. We can win a few games with Fitz but he can't take us to aplayoff at best he is a guy who can be a .500 QB when a team is playing well. If Trent were to go down for the season during a pre-season game than i could see the Bills going after Vick as a total desperation move. I don't know much about our third string QB but if Trent goes down for a long period of time early in the season i would rather put him in just to see what he has because Fitz is what he is and I would rather take a chance on the third string guy. Can anyone tell me what the Bills Third string guy is like and if he has any sort of potential? I've got one word for you... Chroise. Yeah, I know. I know. Concerns need not apply any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I've got one word for you... Chroise. Yeah, I know. I know. Concerns need not apply any more. Verily. Our worst fears are allayed. Now if Hamdan gets injured... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offde-fence Posted June 15, 2009 Author Share Posted June 15, 2009 Number one you can't go by what was seen in OTA's as a guide to anything. More reasonable is to look at game films from last year of actual games. For issues like backup QB I'm glad the Bills mgt. doesn't consider Murphy's ideas. Ryan is about the best type of backup QB the Bills are likely to get. You don't want someone looking over Trent's shoulders to start, for one thing. Look what that did to Losman when he was the starter. A so called "proven" QB is likely to want to have a chance to start and we don't need that. Those were my thoughts, too, when they signed him. The last thing they wanted was a QB controversy. I just didn't know anything about Fitz. I thought he was a capable, level headed, consistent QB with average talent. That'd be fine for a backup, and he might have more than that to him. Just after reading someone who actually saw the practices and said the backups looked terrible - that made me reconsider my original thoughts. I guess we'll know by the middle to end of training camp how he really looks. If they both look bad, though, then I hope they can find someone to bring in with some potential. Isn't it almost a necessity to have two dependable QB's on a team, unless the O-line is top notch? Again, we'll see. All our questions will be answered this year - with a team with so many question marks, the first few games will certainly show how good a job our F.O. has done this year, and if they were correct in their evaluation of players, or if they were trying to get more out of guys than they have to offer. Is it an average team being marketed as more, or are the players good enough to take us to the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazedandConfused Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I just read an article on PFT, about how if we have to rely on our backup quarterback this year for any length of time, we're in trouble. I don't recall reading much on this site covering our QB's, and there's been a rosy kind of optimism surrounding most of articles covering practices - so, to have someone who's been to the practices and say that the backups are looking terrible, considering he's also saying our WR's look great, that is troubling. I've never been impressed with Hamden, and I know nothing of Fitz...I don't know why I haven't thought more about what our team would look like without Edwards, but that is a totally different view - the playoffs don't look too likely with someone like either of our backups as a starter. So, is there anyone left worth the investment, and capable? No Vick, please. I think reality for the Bills has to be the question of can we win with our #2 QB for a max of three games. I think this is the real question because if we were actually to have a QB where a legitimate case could be made that our #2 is good enough to be the starter for an extended period then the local media and some vocal fans would start the drumbeat that our starting QB should be benched in favor of our #2 if we want to win. The archetype of the back-up QB for the Bills is a Frank Reich style player. No one would even consider the notion of benching Jimbo in favor of Reich in part because Jimbo was so productive and also in part because Reich never gave that normal athletes sense that he wanted to move up the food chain to start. Even better Reich had an accomplished enough college career and played such a productive role for Kelly as essentially another set of eyes and QB coach that he was a valued contributor to this team whether he started or not. On of the side effects of the RJ/DF QB battles is that in any case where the #2 QB shows any sign that he might be able to take the #1 job for an extended period, the media default here in WNY is to turn this into a QB battle which like it or not ends up being at least distracting (Bledsoe/JP) if not divisive for the team and its fans (JP/Edwards). What the Bills can best hope for is that their injury prone starting QB (by my definition which is a player who loses PT to three different types of injuries in two season reverses this tendency and that if he is hit with injury yet again that either Fitzpatrick exceeds what he has shown in his brief career to actually be able to be a credible alternative for 3 or fewer games or Hamdan develops into something he has never shown. The big problem for the Bills is that the media and the fan base have never shown the maturity to not invest in a QB controversy as they attempt to sell ads or fill column inches. It could work out, but we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJ91 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I just read an article on PFT, about how if we have to rely on our backup quarterback this year for any length of time, we're in trouble.... Fitzpatrick came in for the Bengals after Palmer went down for the season and started 11 games last year. His numbers were respectable given the Bengals disappointing play on the entire offense. If the Bills thought he sucked so bad during these past OTA's, and that Hamden was totally hopeless for anything other then a number 3, I'm sure they would have made a strong play for Grossman. If you look around the entire NFL, including all 12 playoff teams from last year, you would find that every one of them would be "in trouble" if their starters went down for more then two games during any part of the season this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 ...The archetype of the back-up QB for the Bills is a Frank Reich style player. No one would even consider the notion of benching Jimbo in favor of Reich in part because Jimbo was so productive and also in part because Reich never gave that normal athletes sense that he wanted to move up the food chain to start. Even better Reich had an accomplished enough college career and played such a productive role for Kelly as essentially another set of eyes and QB coach that he was a valued contributor to this team whether he started or not. ... I would beg to differ. It was not only considered, but openly suggested by many a Bills' fan at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I would beg to differ. It was not only considered, but openly suggested by many a Bills' fan at the time. I remember it as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flomoe Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Until they prove they can with with the No. 1 QB, that's the least of my worries. One thing at a time. Amen. Until Edwards proves that he is a capable #1, there really isn't a need to worry about #2 because we won't be winning anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Amen. Until Edwards proves that he is a capable #1, there really isn't a need to worry about #2 because we won't be winning anyway. Even though TE has a winning record with an OC who should be a water boy, a head coach who should be a CB coach,(exaggerated) midgets for WR's and no TE to speak of, I mean talk about a sub par supporting cast. geeesh Give me a break, you guys are brilliant sometimes. let me ask you this, what could belicheat or Parcells do with a fella like TE? He's smart, he's accurate, safe with the ball, unselfish, and basically the ultimate team player. Then to Top it all off he's a born leader of men. Win a Championship, that's exactly what they would do with TE. Hello, Trent Edwards is here to bring home a Championship to Buffalo, NY (despite our inexperienced coaching staff) Get with the program People!!! You've got to billieve!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I would beg to differ. It was not only considered, but openly suggested by many a Bills' fan at the time. No one ON THE BUFFALO BILLS COACHING STAFF ever considered Reich over Kelly. To paraphrase what Marv used to say: When you start listening to what the fans want you to do, you end up sitting with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 No one ON THE BUFFALO BILLS COACHING STAFF ever considered Reich over Kelly. To paraphrase what Marv used to say: When you start listening to what the fans want you to do, you end up sitting with them. +1 The talking heads around Buffalo can comment all they want on Fitzpatrick, but we won't know a damn thing until he hits the gridiron for the Bills. For all we know, TE will get injured and Fitz will win us a Superbowl. Meanwhile, Maybin could be a complete bust. You just can't predict these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 IMHO ..... I think the real question is could ANY qb win this season behind our O-line. I like what I've read about our two rookie guards but they ARE rookies none-the-less...... Like Walker at RT but I'm not sure about LT ... I have doubts about another teams "utility" middle O-lineman playing center especially between two rookies AND against the premire nose tackles of the AFC East. short of some sort of miracle I think it's going to be a pretty rough first half of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 "Can we win with our number two QB?" When Hamdan is named number 2, yes, we can. I think Trent Edwards would make a very capable #2 if Hamdan goes down during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest three3 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 yes we can and if we had better coaches he would be the starter and the team a winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 IMHO ..... I think the real question is could ANY qb win this season behind our O-line. I like what I've read about our two rookie guards but they ARE rookies none-the-less...... Like Walker at RT but I'm not sure about LT ... I have doubts about another teams "utility" middle O-lineman playing center especially between two rookies AND against the premire nose tackles of the AFC East. short of some sort of miracle I think it's going to be a pretty rough first half of the season Lindy's called Hangartner the Panthers key loss. They said he was the putty that Carolina could use to fill any hole on the interior of the O line. He has to be better than the two players the Bills used at Center last year. I like the fact that this line is being called tougher & nastier than any the Bills have had in a LONG time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach55 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Verily. Our worst fears are allayed. Now if Hamdan gets injured... Hamdan is not capable of getting injured. So there is no reason to fear. With Hamdan on the roster, the real question is why do we need a 2nd QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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