Nostradamus Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 3 weeks of OTA's and still no playoffs?? DOOOOOMED! PTR I think the problem is when there is a 10 year track record of negativity and failure, it is easy to sense doom, whether or not it is really there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamRoller67 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Chris Brown Reports from OTAs: "Veterans Kirk Chambers and Seth McKinney continue to hold down the starting roles at the two guard positions on the offensive line. Rookies Andy Levitre and Eric Wood are still being rotated in however, a good portion of the time. " For those of you who think our Offensive line will be upgraded this year...here is a newsflash....These guys aren't even getting starting reps. And oh by the way...Chambers and McKinney (who are currently starting over the kids) did not even start over Fowler and Preston last year... THAT'S how far off these guys are. This is just sickening. Are you joking? It's freaking JUNE! McKinney wasn't even on Buffalo's roster last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dink Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 The next person to say that McKinney wasn't on the roster last year gets a paddlin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 LOL, It's OTA's man. OTA's is where you learn the playbook and the NFL game. Where people start means nothing at this point. Every team out there in the NFL doesn't throw their rookies to thew wolves day one one of OTA's. It takes time. The Bills like every other NFL team brings them up gradually. You also need to understand that rookie Lineman will struggle with Blitz pickups. You have two options throw them to the wolves and let them get frustrated or let them watch some vets do it and then bring them in gradually. They will be starting by the end of training camp baring injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamRoller67 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 The next person to say that McKinney wasn't on the roster last year gets a paddlin'. McKinney wasn't on the roster last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 ::plans to fart in thread, but smells Dankenstein bomb:: ::runs away:: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oak tree 12 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 So an honest post consists of whining that veterans are working at starting positions more often than rookies at week 3 of OTA's? An honest post consists of bitching because a guy that wasn't with the team last year didn't start for the team last year? You just dropped down a notch, buster. another clueless brother you and this poster need to attend some classes that the bills offer for wives of football fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 complaining is sooo 2 months ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJ91 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Chris Brown Reports from OTAs: "Veterans Kirk Chambers and Seth McKinney continue to hold down the starting roles at the two guard positions on the offensive line. Rookies Andy Levitre and Eric Wood are still being rotated in however, a good portion of the time. " For those of you who think our Offensive line will be upgraded this year...here is a newsflash....These guys aren't even getting starting reps. And oh by the way...Chambers and McKinney (who are currently starting over the kids) did not even start over Fowler and Preston last year... THAT'S how far off these guys are. This is just sickening. I agree, I was pissed that Mckinney wasn't starting over Fowler and Preston last season, from his back up guard position on the Cleveland Browns, or was it the Detroit Lions?? Either way, what was wrong with that guy? Cleveland or Detroit to Buffalo is only a short distance. He could have driven in on Sunday's in time to start at center, and then been back in his home in Cleveland or Detroit by Sunday night, right?? And if you read the quote you posted above, an educated fan would feel pretty good about two rookie guards, in their first practices with their new NFL team, being rotated into the first team a good portion of the time! You instead come out of that statement with them being "far off" from starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Chris Brown Reports from OTAs: "Veterans Kirk Chambers and Seth McKinney continue to hold down the starting roles at the two guard positions on the offensive line. Rookies Andy Levitre and Eric Wood are still being rotated in however, a good portion of the time. " For those of you who think our Offensive line will be upgraded this year...here is a newsflash....These guys aren't even getting starting reps. And oh by the way...Chambers and McKinney (who are currently starting over the kids) did not even start over Fowler and Preston last year... THAT'S how far off these guys are. This is just sickening. I have a headache and I don't feel like some using sarcasm, so I'll just get to the point. YOU ARE A MORON!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy G Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 It's obvious that BB's elavator doesnt go to the top, be he succeeded in one thing, creating a thread that ticked everyone off with it's stupidity, and confirming the point that we are all rabid, passionate fans that can't wait for the season to start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpcolosi Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Chris Brown Reports from OTAs: "Veterans Kirk Chambers and Seth McKinney continue to hold down the starting roles at the two guard positions on the offensive line. Rookies Andy Levitre and Eric Wood are still being rotated in however, a good portion of the time. " For those of you who think our Offensive line will be upgraded this year...here is a newsflash....These guys aren't even getting starting reps. And oh by the way...Chambers and McKinney (who are currently starting over the kids) did not even start over Fowler and Preston last year... THAT'S how far off these guys are. This is just sickening. pretty sure mckinney wasn't on the team last year. and chambers was a backup tackle. just don't post anymore... thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 BB Fan, can you please just post an apology for making a seriously bad error in reading comprehension ("Wood and Levitre being rotated in [with the starting unit]) and not having the facts (McKinney wasn't with the Bills last year), so that this thread can finally die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Anyone ever notice that whenever a thread starts with "The truth about...", it ends up being almost completely out of touch with reality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Anyone ever notice that whenever a thread starts with "The truth about...", it ends up being almost completely out of touch with reality? Ends up??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB Fan 4 LIFE Posted June 6, 2009 Author Share Posted June 6, 2009 Why are Wood and Levitre not getting starting reps? Two possibilties: a) These guys are a long ways off and aren't going to be our starters; or b) The coaching staff wants to make them "earn" it, and its "just not the way things work in the NFL" Lets all hope and pray option "a" is not reality. If option "b" is correct, its not the best approach. If they are as physically gifted as we've been told, why not give them as much experience as possible prior to taking the field, since that is what they lack? Is watching second string players take a starters reps really more valuable than taking the reps themselves? No. If these guys are the starters screw tradition, screw "hazing", screw politics, get our starters some reps and lets win some games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Why are Wood and Levitre not getting starting reps? That clinches it. You're a little lacking between the ears, to put it kindly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Why are Wood and Levitre not getting starting reps? Two possibilties: a) These guys are a long ways off and aren't going to be our starters; or b) The coaching staff wants to make them "earn" it, and its "just not the way things work in the NFL" You forgot: c) It's not even preseason yet, and it's not important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiragandhi'sthong Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Dear Rocket Scientist: Seth McKinney was not even here last year and Chambers was at Tackle. Nice try though, close to accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpstateSwagger Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 I noticed you didn't attempt to provide yourself any substantive defense. Does it suck being stupid? I love when people say they won't resort to name-calling. Well, I will: You, sir, are an idiot. These workouts aren't even mandatory, PeaBrain. You act like they aren't getting any reps, but in your own post, you state they are being sprinkled in with the first team. Hey, Chicken Little, get a grip. And, for future reference, rebuilding is when you DO start from scratch. You are a contrarian, agitator and, most importantly, a deuscher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ax4782 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Why are Wood and Levitre not getting starting reps? I'm curious, did you pass the reading comprehension part of the SATs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Voice Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 I'm curious, did you pass the reading comprehension part of the SATs? Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Does anyone know if Seth McKinney was with the Bills last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 Does anyone know if Seth McKinney was with the Bills last year? Not sure about that. Let me check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 Not sure about that. Let me check. He might have hung out with Corey Williams and Leon Williams and maybe even Willie McGinest. Those are some potential Bills perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB Fan 4 LIFE Posted June 7, 2009 Author Share Posted June 7, 2009 I love when people say they won't resort to name-calling. Well, I will: You, sir, are an idiot. A well reasoned, and thought out substantive response, which proves exactly how smart you are. These workouts aren't even mandatory, PeaBrain. Did I say they were mandatory? Didn't think so. You act like they aren't getting any reps, but in your own post, you state they are being sprinkled in with the first team. Did i say they weren't getting any reps? I think I said they weren't getting starting reps, which is true, right? Hey, Chicken Little, get a grip. A well reasoned, and thought out substantive response, which again, proves exactly how smart you are. And, for future reference, rebuilding is when you DO start from scratch. What the hell are you trying to say here? 8th grade english level. Not comprehensible. No context. Not smart. F- We've been "rebuilding" for over a decade...and gotten no better. You are a contrarian, agitator and, most importantly, a deuscher. You = real dumb, and a real bad writer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qbtoleeforthetd Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 A well reasoned, and thought out substantive response, which proves exactly how smart you are. Did I say they were mandatory? Didn't think so. Did i say they weren't getting any reps? I think I said they weren't getting starting reps, which is true, right? A well reasoned, and thought out substantive response, which again, proves exactly how smart you are. What the hell are you trying to say here? 8th grade english level. Not comprehensible. No context. Not smart. F- We've been "rebuilding" for over a decade...and gotten no better. You = real dumb, and a real bad writer. You truly don't understand the concept of reading do you. They are being rotated in with the veterans with the 1st team-taking away some of the veterans reps while also playing with the 2nd team. Sounds like they are getting very little reps to me (that's sarcasm for you fyi) just for fun, take a look at this current Bills Depth Chart Oh and if you could, please call my post substantive or whatever your random big word of the day happens to be today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIE HARD 1967 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 I realize the guy is hated in Buffalo but I always thought Melvin Fowler was a pretty good guard. Just a terrible center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sen. John Blutarsky Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 Because you hate the post??? Go bury your hand in the sand, this line sucks! That might be the case, but not for the reason you stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy JC Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 It's obvious that BB's elavator doesnt go to the top, be he succeeded in one thing, creating a thread that ticked everyone off with it's stupidity, and confirming the point that we are all rabid, passionate fans that can't wait for the season to start! There's nothing wrong with BB's elevator.... It's just that his building is vertically challenged. (don't worry Stumpy, I've got your back) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousetrap08 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 I noticed you didn't attempt to provide yourself any substantive defense. Does it suck being stupid? I don't know you tell me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousetrap08 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 It's obvious that BB's elavator doesnt go to the top, be he succeeded in one thing, creating a thread that ticked everyone off with it's stupidity, and confirming the point that we are all rabid, passionate fans that can't wait for the season to start! HIP HIP HERAY!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GripnRip Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 BB Fan I was hoping you would stop trying to defend yourself...but you haven't. You need to realize that among the many posters on TSW, this thread makes it very clear you are near the bottom in terms of overall knowledge of the NFL. You've defended yourself with semantics for 4 pages now - when the fact remains you are obviously clueless to some of the institutions and common practices of NFL teams. People like you need to spend a few years learning about professional football before infecting our young fans with your ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 BB Fan I was hoping you would stop trying to defend yourself...but you haven't. You need to realize that among the many posters on TSW, this thread makes it very clear you are near the bottom in terms of overall knowledge of the NFL. It has less to do with NFL knowledge than simple reading comprehension. How he can quote a piece that says the rookies are getting some reps with the 1st unit, and then say they're not getting any reps with the starting unit at all, is mind-boggling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Chris Brown Reports from OTAs: "Veterans Kirk Chambers and Seth McKinney continue to hold down the starting roles at the two guard positions on the offensive line. Rookies Andy Levitre and Eric Wood are still being rotated in however, a good portion of the time. " For those of you who think our Offensive line will be upgraded this year...here is a newsflash....These guys aren't even getting starting reps. And oh by the way...Chambers and McKinney (who are currently starting over the kids) did not even start over Fowler and Preston last year... THAT'S how far off these guys are. This is just sickening. sdhfowieg wpoepao.,m,xzcbv oieroptqe j jasdfkomvzmx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 This is just sickening. Agree completely. Oh, wait. You were talking about Brown's report, not the overreaction it inspired, weren't you? Never mind ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Agree completely. Oh, wait. You were talking about Brown's report, not the overreaction it inspired, weren't you? Never mind ... Over-reaction ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Over-reaction ? AP style omits the hyphen in most cases where "over" is used as a prefix. And the overreaction I'm citing, of course, was the one in the first post of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 i know it's feeding the troll but ... where does it say "These guys aren't even getting starting reps" It says they're being rotated in a "good portion of the time" -- sounds very positive to me they will be starters on opening day Gotta disagree. I go along with the OP's main point, which I take to be that there's no guarantee that these two guys will start in game one. The thing is that Jauron has been saying that from day one. He said from the beginning that they would start with vets as the first string, and if the rooks progressed enough they would take over. There's a fair to middling chance that we might not see one or even both starting at the beginning of the season, though they are likelier to start as the season goes along. Thing is that this is no breaking news. This is how it was supposed to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Gotta disagree. I go along with the OP's main point, which I take to be that there's no guarantee that these two guys will start in game one. The thing is that Jauron has been saying that from day one. He said from the beginning that they would start with vets as the first string, and if the rooks progressed enough they would take over. There's a fair to middling chance that we might not see one or even both starting at the beginning of the season, though they are likelier to start as the season goes along. Thing is that this is no breaking news. This is how it was supposed to go. I take a middle ground here. I liken Levitre to Eric Steinbach, and have for a while. Both played some Tackle, and Steinbach stepped right in. I think that Levitre will have less trouble than average with the difficult part of OL play, which is pass blocking. As for Wood, he seems like a flat out beast. I see him as more suited for RG than LG, which is where I hope to see Levitre. People I trust tell me that Hangartner is good. I even think that Butler will be OK at RT if he can stay healthy. In short, there is a solid chance imo to see an improved interior line from day 1. Imo the problem is at LT. There is no reason for me to suspect that Langston Walker will be even an average LT in this league. Hopefully I am mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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