LabattBlue Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 So the ball is on the 2 yard line and the QB runs a naked bootleg and the only way to take him down is by taking a swipe at his lower leg. Is that a penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...tect_qbs_knees/Â Is it even football anymore? Yes. Kudos for the misleading thread title.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 does this include the QB getting flushed out and tripped up from behind by a diving defender? Â The clarification specifically prohibits a defender on the ground who hasn't been blocked or fouled directly into the quarterback from lunging or diving at the quarterback's lower legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 So the ball is on the 2 yard line and the QB runs a naked bootleg and the only way to take him down is by taking a swipe at his lower leg. Is that a penalty? Â Â I sure hope not.... Â This is the problem with making such modifications. The kind of hits that inspire rule changes like this are the hit on Brady (of course), but also the hit on Carson Palmer in the playoffs: QB stands in the pocket, starts throwing, DL is down.. crawls and lunges at the knee. If they are going to have this rule, that should be the only use for it... once the QB begins running out of the pocket the rule should be moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 why isnt this called the Wilfork rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 So how long before they just make it a rule that no one can touch *Marcia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 So how long before they just make it a rule that no one can touch *Marcia? Â As soon as he has a bruised hip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I sure hope not.... This is the problem with making such modifications. The kind of hits that inspire rule changes like this are the hit on Brady (of course), but also the hit on Carson Palmer in the playoffs: QB stands in the pocket, starts throwing, DL is down.. crawls and lunges at the knee. If they are going to have this rule, that should be the only use for it... once the QB begins running out of the pocket the rule should be moot.  If you read the article, that's what it says. It only is in effect when the QB has both feet on the ground.  A simple reading of the rule would eliminate 3/4 of the posts on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Terrible rule. It's as much a part of the game as any other hit. It's funny that Kraft wasn't pushing for this when Wilfork did it to Losman just 1 year before.  I didn't read the whole article, does it say that it's a 15yd personal foul penalty?  It's the league of double standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 this only helps Edwards We'll see. There's probably a Willfork exemption that allows a defender to break his fall with his elbow into the opposing QB's knee as long as the defender says "oops" when he does. Â PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Quint Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 If you read the article, that's what it says. It only is in effect when the QB has both feet on the ground. Â A simple reading of the rule would eliminate 3/4 of the posts on this thread. Â Do you really think that it's going to be as cut & dry as "he had both feet on the ground"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 If you read the article, that's what it says. It only is in effect when the QB has both feet on the ground. Â A simple reading of the rule would eliminate 3/4 of the posts on this thread. Â Â Thanks for that. I did not read the article, but had hoped that the rule was written that way. It will be interesting to see how that enforcement proceeds... if they stick to the letter, this is merely an extension of what it means to "rough the passer." What used to mean just a hard hit/blow to the head (unless you are Mike Vrabel in the Super Bowl, of course...) now extends to hits at the legs, where the QB is at least as vulnerable after throwing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Let's make our own luck this year, score a lot of points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 How many days after the Monday night game, does the official issue the apology to the Bills for mis-interpreting the 'feet on the ground' rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 How many days after the Monday night game, does the official issue the apology to the Bills for mis-interpreting the 'feet on the ground' rule. Â When we win by 24, they can stuff the apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duality Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Soooo we cant hit from the neck up or from the legs down.... are we playing flag football now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPicc2114 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 does this include the QB getting flushed out and tripped up from behind by a diving defender? Â Â No this is a defensive player on the ground that lunges for the QBs knees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthGeorgiaBillsFan Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 If they want to make rules like this that limit contact on a quarterback, then they need a rule that the quarterback is down when he is touch by both hands. Ahem...sadly, I am suggesting the only way to make this rule fair is to implement 2-hand touch into the NFL....what a sad day. Personally I feel like if you are going to sit there and deliberately try to run the score up as much as possible game after game you should *expect* somebody to break your effing kneecaps. I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happens to Brady again at some point this season, because nobody appreciates being humiliated after the game is already way out of reach. I think the NFL is still mad because their "more points = more money" marketing scheme got blown to pieces against the Giants by what? D-FENCE ch ch D-FENCE ch ch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthGeorgiaBillsFan Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Also this rule is an insult to the integrity and accomplishments of the Great QBs of yore who actually had to worry about being violently sacked. Now Brady will continue to pad his stats and generations to come will think he's better than the likes of Dan Marino and Joe Montana and Johnny-U. He's a great QB but lets face it he gets all the credit for his team being remarkably solid from top to bottom. Matt Cassel last year proved this beyond most doubt, and when he sucks to epic levels with the chiefs the rest of the doubt will be gone. To suggest Brady is better than Peyton Manning is a travesty, much less that he is the best of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Geez. How many rules are they going to change based on things that happen to Tom Brady? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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