billsfreak Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 thats the only thing i can think of they must be freeing up a LOT of cash for a reason. They were well under the cap so i dont see this as a money issue. Now they have truckloads of money under.... are they planning something big? They are freeing up alot of cash, for Ralph's pockets probably. Lets hope that all the criticism that he and the Front Office have been getting hit with make him open his wallet a little bit this off season, but I will believe it when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 They are freeing up alot of cash, for Ralph's pockets probably. Lets hope that all the criticism that he and the Front Office have been getting hit with make him open his wallet a little bit this off season, but I will believe it when I see it. The release of DD is quite simple. The Bills have to spend a certain amount of money against the cap in order to get their share in the CBA. Dead money counts as money spent, even though RW won't really be spending a single penny on DD's contract this season. The cap hit should be about 4 or 5 million dollars. That's 4 or $5 million less that RW will have to actually spend. More cuts will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 They are freeing up alot of cash, for Ralph's pockets probably. Lets hope that all the criticism that he and the Front Office have been getting hit with make him open his wallet a little bit this off season, but I will believe it when I see it. It has been proven many times that Ralph opens his wallet for players. They might not always be the right moves but he does spend it. All we hear about is our overpaid players. Getting really tired of the same old lines!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Ok, so what is the level of confidence around here about Kirk Chambers? If the plan is to go after Jason Brown at center, Chambers is the natural replacement at guard (unless we dip into FA twice for the O-line). Personally, I thought he held his own out there this season when called upon. He's most likely a slight downgrade from Dockery. However... Peters-Chambers-Brown-Butler-Walker sounds a heckuva lot better than Peters-Dockery-Fowler-Butler-Walker All in all, I'm a fan of this move as long as it involves bringing in a legitimate center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I got to be honest, I do not like this move. This is why the bills never improve. They make holes in the roster when they do not have to. Say what you want about DD but there is not a guy on the roster right now that could replace him in the starting lineup & be an upgrade. I understand making the move to clear salary but why not wait until they bring in another guard & then cut him? With the bills it is always seems like it is one step forward, two steps back. They are constantly every offseason making moves that create holes in the roster that do not have to be made. That is why we never improve from our usual 7-9. I agree. I don't like the move unless they already have two starters in there. What if they targeted a couple guys and other teams want them and pay them more. Now we need (at least) five new starters instead of four. Dockery has been average and surely not worth the money he is being paid but he is above average for around the league. If you get a Jason Brown and Jeff Saturday or something like that locked up, then you can cut him. Sure, it may not be fair to Dockery to keep him out of the first few days of FA but he was way overpaid for a couple years here. I don't like this move right move today. If they pick up two top OL in free agency then and only then will it not be a bad move. They have all the money they want to spend in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynchMob23 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Anyone they're cutting today have to be cut today or they get their roster bonus paid to them on Friday, the first day of the new season fiscally. As a result, even though some are claiming that Ralph did this to save money on what he's spending this off-season,we actually gain 4-5 in cash to the cap and are credited 400+k on the cap. I don't like it, but from the sound of it, they have tampered with a few people and know at 12:01 they'll have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 The Bills have a plan to make Peters the highest paid member of the OL. But instead of paying him, they are going to cut everyone who makes more than him. Good one - now Peters can't complain about being the third-highest paid guy on the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Anderson's Lunch Pail Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Does anyone else think we're clearing up cap space to make a run at LeBron James next summer? I'm just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I agree. I don't like the move unless they already have two starters in there. What if they targeted a couple guys and other teams want them and pay them more. Now we need (at least) five new starters instead of four. Dockery has been average and surely not worth the money he is being paid but he is above average for around the league. If you get a Jason Brown and Jeff Saturday or something like that locked up, then you can cut him. Sure, it may not be fair to Dockery to keep him out of the first few days of FA but he was way overpaid for a couple years here. I don't like this move right move today. If they pick up two top OL in free agency then and only then will it not be a bad move. They have all the money they want to spend in FA. A guard in the hand is better than 2 FAs in the bush? Fingers crossed that this works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 They are freeing up alot of cash, for Ralph's pockets probably. Lets hope that all the criticism that he and the Front Office have been getting hit with make him open his wallet a little bit this off season, but I will believe it when I see it. You mean like when he opened up his pocket book for Dockery? I love it, we cut a huge salary we gave a guy in FA and there are still posts as if Ralph never spends money...lmao Complain about how he has spent money, but he has spent money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Does anyone else think we're clearing up cap space to make a run at LeBron James next summer? I'm just saying... Well. everyone else is..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 It has been proven many times that Ralph opens his wallet for players. They might not always be the right moves but he does spend it. All we hear about is our overpaid players. Getting really tired of the same old lines!! Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 WHo do we play at guard? who cares, anything is better than dockerys fat ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Loves Bills Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 One quick question from a guy who is still learning the whole process. What is the benefit of releasing him instead of trading him? Is it simply because no one wants to pay his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat7s Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Don't count on it. I dunno dude, why cut a guy you invested so much in if you're going to do nothing significant to replace that person? Then again we didn't save a lot of cap room by cutting him, so it's not like we have an extra $5 million to throw around this year. I just think they must be bringing in a name on the line if they are throwing away their investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 One quick question from a guy who is still learning the whole process. What is the benefit of releasing him instead of trading him? Is it simply because no one wants to pay his contract? They may have tried and couldnt which is why they waited until now. Who knows...his contract is way overpriced from how he has played, so dont see anyone taking it on...this isnt the NBA, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cale Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Dockery did nothing to earn his contract. Same with Royal. I like these cuts because it removes guys who were *only* for the most part locker room lawyers. I'm sure they talked to Dockery's agent to restructure. But I doubt DD wanted to do it. C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 One quick question from a guy who is still learning the whole process. What is the benefit of releasing him instead of trading him? Is it simply because no one wants to pay his contract? That is a big part. He is not really in demand. He will probably hook up somewhere else but on a 1 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 For the record, I'd like to know how many other teams have cut a player after 2 seasons with a contract that large? Buffalo obviously isn't paying the entire 49M, but IIRC, Dockery got 18.5M guaranteed in the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 If this all goes to the Peters extension that will be a let down...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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