Steely Dan Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Obviously we can't tell anything about the EFA, RFA, and FA's now but of the guys under contract who do you think? This includes total contract at the time of signing and what they are worth now. My votes are: Most overpaid: Tie: Derrick Dockery, 3/2/2007: Signed a seven-year, $49 million contract. The deal contains $18.5 million guaranteed, including a $16 million signing bonus. $8.1 million of the signing bonus was paid immediately. 2009: $2.75 million, 2010: $4.5 million, 2011: $5.65 million, 2012: $6.575 million, 2013: $6.775 million, 2014: Free Agent Aaron Schobel, 8/24/2007: Signed a seven-year, $50.5 million contract. The deal contains $21 million in guarantees, including Schobel's first four base salaries. 2008: $1.5 million, 2009: $3.5 million, 2010: $6.025 million, 2011-2012: $6.5 million, 2013: $8.5 million, 2014: Free Agent I'm leaning more toward Dockery because he really hadn't done much before getting his contract and he seems just ordinary. If he makes the Pro-Bowl this year then maybe he'll start earning it. Schobel had injuries this year but that has to factor in to it a bit. If he stays healthy this year then I think Dockery will win the award outright. Most underpaid: Marcus Stroud: 4/14/2005: Signed a five-year, $31.5 million contract. The deal included a $6.5 million signing bonus and contains $12.5 million in total guarantees. 2008: $3 million, 2009: $3.5 million, 2010: $4 million, 2011: Free Agent This is assuming Stroud doesn't get a contract extension and raise this offseason and I'm pretty sure he will be given one. Josh Reed, 3/17/2006: Signed a four-year, $10 million contract. The deal included a $2 million signing bonus. 2008: $1.825 million, 2009: $2.025 million, 2010: Free Agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moovemtooelay Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I think the most underpaid is Freddy Jax but that seems like its gonna change soon. The most overpaid by far is Chris Kelsay I don't even think there's anyone more useless on the team!!!!! Although I am completey tired of seeing Ellison in a Bills uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 I think the most underpaid is Freddy Jax but that seems like its gonna change soon. The most overpaid by far is Chris Kelsay I don't even think there's anyone more useless on the team!!!!! Although I am completey tired of seeing Ellison in a Bills uniform. Jackson doesn't count because he's not under contract with Buffalo right now. It has to be someone under contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I think the most underpaid is Freddy Jax but that seems like its gonna change soon. The most overpaid by far is Chris Kelsay I don't even think there's anyone more useless on the team!!!!! Although I am completey tired of seeing Ellison in a Bills uniform. You're right. He doesn't even make $1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 The most overpaid is Dockery. That contract is staggering, and it looks like we are stuck with it for at least a few years. And, let's face facts.......Peters sees this and it makes him seethe to see a guy who isn't in shape and barely appears to be trying earn twice what he does. A good second round Guard could do what Dockery does and more for a small fraction of the cost. The situation is asinine. . The most underpaid is clearly Trent Edwards. Look around at quarterback salaries. Here is one. Also, how much did Losman make last year? If any team will sign JP even to a backup role, even he will make more than Trent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 The most underpaid Bill is Chris Kelsay and this guy is clearly the most overpaid Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Schobel hasn't done anything since his contract extension (6.5 sacks in 16 games in 07', 1 sack in 5 games in 08'), highly overpaid!! Fred Jackson, Josh Reed, very underpaid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95altima12 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I think JP is the most underpaid! He can't even afford a haircut or a shave! Get this man a new contract with a coupon to great clips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 No pro athlete is underpaid. Kelsay is most overpaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 The most overpaid is Dockery. That contract is staggering, and it looks like we are stuck with it for at least a few years. And, let's face facts.......Peters sees this and it makes him seethe to see a guy who isn't in shape and barely appears to be trying earn twice what he does. A good second round Guard could do what Dockery does and more for a small fraction of the cost. The situation is asinine. . The most underpaid is clearly Trent Edwards. Look around at quarterback salaries. Here is one. Also, how much did Losman make last year? If any team will sign JP even to a backup role, even he will make more than Trent. If Trent proves he's the man this year, he will be rewarded with a new contract. If not he will have been paid as he should have been as the 3rd round pick he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grinder Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 The most overpaid by far is Chris Kelsay. Agreed. Why we decided to extend him is beyond me. Ant to think, the Giants took Osi Umenyiora 8 spots after we took Kelsay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Agreed. Why we decided to extend him is beyond me. Ant to think, the Giants took Osi Umenyiora 8 spots after we took Kelsay In fairness, Kelsay was slightly more productive than Osi this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan74 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Overpaid: Schobel Kelsay Dockery L. Walker I can't think of anybody on that team that is underpaid, except the fans that would like some return on investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Kelsay overpaid Edwards Underpaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Every player is overpaid.... Now that that's out of the way....Kelsay way overpaid, Lynch underpaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIE HARD 1967 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 The most overpaid is J.P. Losman, but not for long (lol) The most underpaid is Jason Peters. Too bad you don't have coaches salaries in there, what ever Dick Jauron makes, its too much. Excellent thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacoy38 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Obviously we can't tell anything about the EFA, RFA, and FA's now but of the guys under contract who do you think? This includes total contract at the time of signing and what they are worth now. My votes are: Most overpaid: Tie: Derrick Dockery, 3/2/2007: Signed a seven-year, $49 million contract. The deal contains $18.5 million guaranteed, including a $16 million signing bonus. $8.1 million of the signing bonus was paid immediately. 2009: $2.75 million, 2010: $4.5 million, 2011: $5.65 million, 2012: $6.575 million, 2013: $6.775 million, 2014: Free Agent Aaron Schobel, 8/24/2007: Signed a seven-year, $50.5 million contract. The deal contains $21 million in guarantees, including Schobel's first four base salaries. 2008: $1.5 million, 2009: $3.5 million, 2010: $6.025 million, 2011-2012: $6.5 million, 2013: $8.5 million, 2014: Free Agent I'm leaning more toward Dockery because he really hadn't done much before getting his contract and he seems just ordinary. If he makes the Pro-Bowl this year then maybe he'll start earning it. Schobel had injuries this year but that has to factor in to it a bit. If he stays healthy this year then I think Dockery will win the award outright. Most underpaid: Marcus Stroud: 4/14/2005: Signed a five-year, $31.5 million contract. The deal included a $6.5 million signing bonus and contains $12.5 million in total guarantees. 2008: $3 million, 2009: $3.5 million, 2010: $4 million, 2011: Free Agent This is assuming Stroud doesn't get a contract extension and raise this offseason and I'm pretty sure he will be given one. Josh Reed, 3/17/2006: Signed a four-year, $10 million contract. The deal included a $2 million signing bonus. 2008: $1.825 million, 2009: $2.025 million, 2010: Free Agent overpaid: Dockery, Kelsay underpaid: Kyle Williams, Reed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Overpaid: Kelsay Dishonorable Mention: Dockery McCargo Roscoe Royal Schoebel Walker Lil' Donte Underpaid: Peters Honorable Mention: Edwards Stroud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Overpaid:Kelsay Dishonorable Mention: Dockery McCargo Roscoe Royal Schoebel Walker Lil' Donte Underpaid: Peters Honorable Mention: Edwards Stroud Jauron tops the list of overpaid people. He should be writing a check to the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 You're right. He doesn't even make $1. The most overpaid is Dockery. That contract is staggering, and it looks like we are stuck with it for at least a few years. And, let's face facts.......Peters sees this and it makes him seethe to see a guy who isn't in shape and barely appears to be trying earn twice what he does. A good second round Guard could do what Dockery does and more for a small fraction of the cost. The situation is asinine. . The most underpaid is clearly Trent Edwards. Look around at quarterback salaries. Here is one. Also, how much did Losman make last year? If any team will sign JP even to a backup role, even he will make more than Trent. I disagree with the underpayment of TE. He hasn't proven yet he deserves more money IMO. If he has a good season this year and leads the offense then he deserves a raise but he's not one of the best QB's in the league right now. The most underpaid Bill is Chris Kelsay and this guy is clearly the most overpaid Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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