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I went to the game yesterday with my fiancee, and we saw two girls who were completely destroyed by a pack of guys on a beer run. The crowds were tight at the start of the 3rd and these guys apparently wanted to get their beer fast. They knocked one of them into a cement wall and then to the floor and the other flew into a corner. We stopped to pick these now beer soaked and hurt girls up and the idiots just kept on going.

 

Not a proudest moment to be a Bills Fan.

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Why? Does standing up make it harder for the other team to score? :angry::sick: I'll never forget a couple of years ago when during a similar thread, someone kept insisting that you can yell louder when standing up versus sitting down. <_<:lol:

 

As a singer I can tell you that yes you can project your voice louder and longer from a standing position. More capacity for the diaphram. It's not a tennis match either it's a football game. I don't want to get into any stupid pissing match about it though because it will go nowhere like most of these such discussions. I respect your opinion.

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If someone politely asked me to sit, especially so a kid or elderly person could see, I personally would do it. I don't stand the entire game. If someone flips you off if you ask them to sit or they're just too drunk to comprehend your request, you have these options, like I said above:

1. suck it up,

2. stand yourself,

3. stay home,

4. tell an usher - that's their job and that's why they are there. Utilize them.

Now, if I'm standing and some jobber comes up to me with some uppity sense of entitlement (I have a sneaking suspicion some of you may be guilty of this) just because he ALSO paid 70 bucks for a ticket, I may not be so quick to comply, especially if he/she seems to be of average age, have two perfectly good legs, and is above 5'5".

I am guessing you are 23-25....trust me..you realize how much of a tool you sound like in about 10 years

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I am guessing you are 23-25....trust me..you realize how much of a tool you sound like in about 10 years

 

Really, a tool huh? For explaining my position and giving my opinion of what you should do if the obnoxious drunks are bothering you at games? Well, my obviously wiser, older fellow poster, thank you giving me something to look forward to. Apparently, when I reach your ripe old age, I'll be so much more mature and careful with my words, but still be able to name-call and insult "tool"

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wow I was sitting in the 200 level where I quite frequently found my self standing/jumping on seats. On a few occasions I was 2 Rows back head butting people in my section. The guy behind medidnt seem to mind at all, even when I picked up his 3 year old boy during one of my moments of raging joy. The older gentleman who posted this topic has no idea, he is clueless, there are seats for people just like him they are more expensive but worth it if the things your dislikes are people standing and drunk hookers. I honestly didnt think anybody cared about this kind of stuff, mt girlfriend was so drunk I had to drag her by the hair into the stadium, she loved it so much we will be right back there in two weeks for the next one.

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Really, a tool huh? For explaining my position and giving my opinion of what you should do if the obnoxious drunks are bothering you at games? Well, my obviously wiser, older fellow poster, thank you giving me something to look forward to. Apparently, when I reach your ripe old age, I'll be so much more mature and careful with my words, but still be able to name-call and insult "tool"

FWIW I am 34 and had your same mentality when I was younger...

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FWIW I am 34 and had your same mentality when I was younger...

 

I'm not quite sure what mentality you speak of. I personally don't stand all game at the stadium or get blackout drunk anywhere, ever. I am though very enthusiastic at home games, my voice is always gone the next day, as it is today. I do get annoyed at all the hemming and hawwing about the bad conduct, I personally have witnessed very little of it over the years at RWS. I also don't think age is synonymous with wisdom, or maturity.

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Now, if I'm standing and some jobber comes up to me with some uppity sense of entitlement (I have a sneaking suspicion some of you may be guilty of this) just because he ALSO paid 70 bucks for a ticket, I may not be so quick to comply, especially if he/she seems to be of average age, have two perfectly good legs, and is above 5'5".

 

 

you do realize that you standing and blocking someones view of the game gives you that same uppity sense of entitlement since you paid money to get into the game

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So apparently the mentality of "I paid for my $70 ticket so that means I can act like a d!ck and the people around me can fugg off, CUZ I'M WATCHING THE BILLS! WOOOOO!" is alive and well.

Guess so....this is the winner, so far:

 

I honestly didnt think anybody cared about this kind of stuff, mt girlfriend was so drunk I had to drag her by the hair into the stadium, she loved it so much we will be right back there in two weeks for the next one.
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i'm not sure this should be discouraged ...

 

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:lol:<_<

 

I would like to make this my annual "Please don't be a douche when you go to the Ralph" post.

 

I am a season ticket holder. I go to all the home games. I go to the Ralph to watch football live. I do not go to get drunk. I do not go to start fights with other people. I GO TO WATCH FOOTBALL. I realize that there are times during the game when you have to stand up. I also would like those of you that only go to one or two games a year to realize that it is considered impolite to stand for the ENTIRE game. Especially when you are politely asked by the person behind you to sit down. Also, if no one is standing in front of you, you should be sitting.

 

Yesterday some skanky women in front of us wouldn't sit down. When we all politely asked them to sit, their response was, "Next time you should pay for better seats if you can't see the field."

Not everyone who goes to the game is capable of standing in order to see over the person ahead of them. There are many young kids and elderly people who are physically burdened by the constant sit-down/stand-up routine. Just remember, those people ALSO paid $70 for their ticket, so please don't ruin their fun by blocking their view.

 

Response: If your seats are so good why are you standing?

 

Oh man call the waaaah-bulance. Move to Atlanta or Carolina with the rest of the wine and cheese crowd if you want dead silence and a$$es glued to the seats the entire game so YOU can have the experience you expect. Barring that, either stay home and watch the game on TV or be big boys and girls and direct your complaints to the ushers.

 

1. Learn to think about others and not exclusively about yourself. You'll be less of an A-hole. Everybody who pays deserves to enjoy the game and should be able to enjoy the game. If everyone is thoughtful then they all can.

 

2. Where in his post did he say anything about silence and people glued to their seats all game. Perhaps you should work on reading comprehension and/or not exaggerating others words to make their points sound ludicrous. If you don't exaggerate their arguements then they have a reasonable points and you look like a fool railing against it. Guess what you look like now? "Think about it Brad, study it."

 

 

Ridiculous--- i pay the same as anyone else, if i choose to sit, i should not have to deal with a drunken idiot who is ruining my game. learn to control your drinking and stop being a selfish prick while at the game

 

Exactly.

 

 

I get the feeling that posters like this have never gone to a home playoff game.

 

And this is relevant, how?

 

 

If someone politely asked me to sit, especially so a kid or elderly person could see, I personally would do it. I don't stand the entire game. If someone flips you off if you ask them to sit or they're just too drunk to comprehend your request, you have these options, like I said above:

1. suck it up,

2. stand yourself,

3. stay home,

4. tell an usher - that's their job and that's why they are there. Utilize them.

Now, if I'm standing and some jobber comes up to me with some uppity sense of entitlement (I have a sneaking suspicion some of you may be guilty of this) just because he ALSO paid 70 bucks for a ticket, I may not be so quick to comply, especially if he/she seems to be of average age, have two perfectly good legs, and is above 5'5".

 

1. The point being driven home here is that it shouldn't have to be a problem.

 

2. Stand yourself? So the guys behind you have to stand and then the guys behind them and then the kids and the old people. Just because the kids or old people aren't directly behind you it does have a ripple effect. Once again learn to think about others?

 

3. What a really stupid comment. What you're saying is that if people don't like the A-holes they should stay home?! How about people behaving thoughtfully! Doya think that should be more important? Doya think that the drunken A-holes should be the people staying home?

 

4. It shouldn't have to get to that point.

 

You SHOULD be standing when the defense is on the field, especially on 3rd down. Just sayin' , not discouraging your other points though. In the run during the nineties , most people stood for a large portion of the game and not too many seemed to have an issue with it. It's weird to me how that has changed.

 

BTW I don't drink at Bills games and never have.

 

People don't have to stand when the D is on the field. You can still yell while sitting in the seat. :angry:

 

People were sitting according to size back then?

 

 

Really, a tool huh? For explaining my position and giving my opinion of what you should do if the obnoxious drunks are bothering you at games? Well, my obviously wiser, older fellow poster, thank you giving me something to look forward to. Apparently, when I reach your ripe old age, I'll be so much more mature and careful with my words, but still be able to name-call and insult "tool"

 

Get a grip. You will mature if you're a normal human being and at that point you'll realize what dicks people like you are. Once again think of others rather than yourself.

 

 

wow I was sitting in the 200 level where I quite frequently found my self standing/jumping on seats. On a few occasions I was 2 Rows back head butting people in my section. The guy behind medidnt seem to mind at all, even when I picked up his 3 year old boy during one of my moments of raging joy. The older gentleman who posted this topic has no idea, he is clueless, there are seats for people just like him they are more expensive but worth it if the things your dislikes are people standing and drunk hookers. I honestly didnt think anybody cared about this kind of stuff, mt girlfriend was so drunk I had to drag her by the hair into the stadium, she loved it so much we will be right back there in two weeks for the next one.

 

I would have minded, and if you had touched my kid you would have woken up in the emergency room of the hospital.

 

Wow I'm glad you drank so much and your girlfriend was super intoxicated I guess you don't have much else to be proud of. Why should people have to spend more money to enjoy the game just because you want to get drunk and obnoxious? You were lucky to land in area where people were willing to tolerate you. Next time you may not be so lucky.

 

You honestly didn't think people cared about this stuff?! Well now you know and can adjust your behavior accordingly. :sick:

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You really should stand when the defense is on the field, especially on 3rd down, I wait til everyone ahead of me does so, though. Your voice projects more when you're up and if you're not yelling to help the defense, you should be sitting at home or something like a luxury box

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It shouldn't have to get to the to the point of involving the ushers? Isn't that why they are there in the first place? Why exactly shouldn't it? Because 70,000 other people should implicitly know that you are annoyed with their conduct, obnoxious though it may be? Well, what should be the standard mode of celebration and enthusiasm at a football game then? Could you publish here for me or send me a hard copy to pin to my forehead so others I encounter may read?

 

Really, so I am a "dick" and a "tool" for simply giving a set of options for you all who just can't stand the inconvenience? Well, let me suggest a label for you complaining, "mature" name-callers: Whiners

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You really should stand when the defense is on the field, especially on 3rd down, I wait til everyone ahead of me does so, though. Your voice projects more when you're up and if you're not yelling to help the defense, you should be sitting at home or something like a luxury box

It's possible to yell and be loud whisklt sitting. I certainly do not discourage standing when something happens which is exciting, but standing for the sake of standing is pretty irritating. It's one thing when you're in the student section of Beaver Stadium, it's another at an NFL game.

 

I have to give props to the guy in front of me yesterday. At the start of the game he was standing the whole time and I know that my mother and my wife (who is 5') couldn't see sh-- and honestly, it wouldn't have mattered if my wife stood up because the guy was big and she STILL couldn't see over him so her option would have been to stand on top of her seat which just makes it even worse for the people behind her and so on. Anyway, my Mom said something to him and he did a really good job and yelling and having fun and standing when appropriate (ie others are standing, an exciting play is ocurring or has just occurred, you are going to get beer, etc.) Everyone in my immediate vicintiy was very loud, had a great time and everyone could see and I appreciated that he made an effort to let the people behind him to see and ALSO participate in the fun, not just look at the back of his blue painted head.

 

There are considerations to consider. If you stand and your attitude is well the person behind me can just stand, that's fine. What you do when you stand and force me to stand to see over you is pass the douchebag label off of yourself an put it on me because now the people behind me can't see and it's pretty likely that I'm a bigger barrier than even you are. I honestly don't car ebecause I will see either way but I feel bad when I have to block a lady or a kid's view because of you. I jump up when fun stuff happens, as should everyone, but to stand the whole time is just very inconsiderate of everyone around you. There is nothing, absouletly nothing to prevent you from yelling while sitting. Your mouth is not (in most cases) connected to your ass and all of the people who are trying to make the arguement that your diapragm works better and you project your voice better when you stand are FOS and trying to justify their own douchebaggery. "as a singer...." BS.

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It shouldn't have to get to the to the point of involving the ushers? Isn't that why they are there in the first place? Why exactly shouldn't it? Because 70,000 other people should implicitly know that you are annoyed with their conduct, obnoxious though it may be? Well, what should be the standard mode of celebration and enthusiasm at a football game then? Could you publish here for me or send me a hard copy to pin to my forehead so others I encounter may read?

Really, so I am a "dick" and a "tool" for simply giving a set of options for you all who just can't stand the inconvenience? Well, let me suggest a label for you complaining, "mature" name-callers: Whiners

 

How about this one that was linked in the post that started this whole thread. <_<

 

Fan Code of Conduct

 

The Buffalo Bills and Ralph Wilson Stadium have established a Code of Conduct for all guests that will allow everyone in attendance to enjoy all aspects of events at the stadium. Any violation of these rules could result in immediate ejection from the stadium premises. Our staff will proactively enforce this Code of Conduct that includes the following behaviors deemed inappropriate by Stadium Management:

 

-Interfering with the progress of the game by entering the field area or by throwing objects onto the field.

-Attempting to bring alcoholic beverages into the stadium.

-Intoxication related to excessive consumption of alcoholic beverages.

-Smoking, except in designated areas.

-Use of foul, disruptive, obscene, offensive, or abusive language or actions.

-Fighting, taunting, threatening remarks or offensive gestures toward other Bills fans and visiting team fans.

-Sitting in a seat location other than the guest's ticket location.

-Refusing to show your ticket and/or identification when asked by a stadium representative.

-Scalping or other improper resale of tickets.

-Excessive standing.

-Indecent exposure or undressing.

-Displays of affection not appropriate in a public setting.

-Wearing obscene, offensive, or indecent clothing.

-Conduct that endangers spectators, employees or participants.

 

We value your enthusiasm, but ask that all fans exercise good judgment and observe the Code of Conduct. Please observe the rights of others by displaying proper decorum. Season Ticket Account Holders are responsible for their conduct as well as persons occupying their seats. Violations by either the Season Ticket Holder or anyone occupying the seats will result in having season ticket privileges revoked without reimbursement to the Season Ticket Account Holder and/or the holder of the ticket license, at the discretion of the Buffalo Bills. Should you observe any of the above violations, please contact a stadium staff member to report the problem or call the Game Day Fan Hotline at (716) 312-8933.

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You have to have the ability to be tolerant. And always keep in mind that in the end, they are big fans of the team and just wanna have fun. Certain people go too far, and the Sheriff boots em. But to be upset because someone wants to stand and cheer all game long is shameful. Some people are just too excited about football and their team to sit down. Sitting down is for relaxing. <_<

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The game day experience is for everyone to enjoy. But we all enjoy things differently. We're all different. While you may think it's annoying for me to stand a lot, I think it's annoying that you DON'T stand. You have to go to the game keeping in mind that different types of people will be there. If you can't tolerate people's differences, you shouldn't go.

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You have to have the ability to be tolerant. And always keep in mind that in the end, they are big fans of the team and just wanna have fun. Certain people go too far, and the Sheriff boots em. But to be upset because someone wants to stand and cheer all game long is shameful. Some people are just too excited about football and their team to sit down. Sitting down is for relaxing. :thumbdown:

 

So, the people sitting behind the standers aren't big fans of the team and didn't come because they just wanna have fun? If they can't see because the big fans are standing up that makes them lesser fans? If they weren't big fans then they wouldn't have shelled out the bucks and taken the time to go to the stadium. So try to be thoughtful of others while at the game. <_<

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And all of you complainers, even the wise, old ones, believe that every fan that attends any given Bills game reads/cares about the conduct policy? Not even close; and that's exactly the reason why we have the guys and gals in the bright ugly windbreakers stationed all throughout RWS. You can spit in any direction from your seat and hit two or three of them.

 

Unless you are absolutely completely sheltered and naive, you know that football games, and the world in general, are filled with alcoholics and just plain mean and inconsiderate folk. I am not and have never defended their behaviour. I'm just of the opinion that those of you complaining the loudest are just as bad, maybe worse. I suppose you don't even know it. Their are tools available to you at the stadium - ushers, law enforcement - if you witness someone breaking the conduct policy. On the other hand, if you are just so appalled at some of the behaviour you witness at a Bills game that you get pissing mad and your pretty little eyes start to burn, get over yourself. Remember that people from all walks of life come and support this team, and they all have different ideas of what "fun" is.

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"This big drunk guy accidentally knocked me into a bench, and when my husband came to my aid, he flipped us off with both fingers," Joanna Cone said. Dr. Jesse Cone, who had traveled here from Syracuse with his wife and other relatives, said the rowdy behavior fueled by alcohol consumption was downright frightening. "I was thinking of buying season tickets and bringing my sons, but I can't expose them to this", the physician, who grew up in Pavilion, said.

 

Lisa McCall, a Rochester resident, said she and her husband, Joe, were also leaving early because one of the people they had traveled with was in no shape to sit through the final quarter. "It's unfortunate, but we're forced to leave. Our friend, well, she's had too much," McCall said.

 

By day's end, police said 25 individuals had been arrested in and around the Orchard Park stadium on charges ranging from disorderly conduct to DWI.

 

http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/433759.html

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So, the people sitting behind the standers aren't big fans of the team and didn't come because they just wanna have fun? If they can't see because the big fans are standing up that makes them lesser fans? If they weren't big fans then they wouldn't have shelled out the bucks and taken the time to go to the stadium. So try to be thoughtful of others while at the game. <_<

 

Notice my post above yours. I say the game day experience is for everyone to enjoy. But we all do it differently. I'm not so ignorant to say what you're implying. Again, read my post, the one before the one of yours I'm quoting. Thanks. I await your apology. Though I doubt it'll come...

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What's your guess? I'll be honest if you get it correct.

 

Well, I'd say BC because it seems like more people from this area end up there, but the "I have to stand up no matter what" line of thought has BU written all over it.

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The game day experience is for everyone to enjoy. But we all enjoy things differently. We're all different. While you may think it's annoying for me to stand a lot, I think it's annoying that you DON'T stand. You have to go to the game keeping in mind that different types of people will be there. If you can't tolerate people's differences, you shouldn't go.

 

Those are two entirely different situations. You're impeding some else's enjoyment (and *view*) by electing to be on your feet the whole time. The folks with the seat directly behind you have no choice in the matter. They're directly affected because of your actions.

 

The dude sitting the whole time? He's not hurting anyone. It may *annoy* you, but that's your own problem. He's not doing anything irresponsible or inconsiderate. Quite the opposite, actually. You can simply choose to ignore the guy sitting down, the people behind you can't simply choose to ignore your ass in their faces.

 

I think it just comes down to consideration. Again, if you jump up after a big play or you're on your feet screaming on a big 3rd down? Good! Just please remember that by not sitting your ass down after the fact, you're going to cause the people behind you to stand up, and the people behind them, and so on and so forth. At the same time, everyone should be tolerant of a normal level of excitement at an NFL game.

 

Man... it's not the fact that some are inconsiderate that I find annoying, it's that people are actually defending it.

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"This big drunk guy accidentally knocked me into a bench, and when my husband came to my aid, he flipped us off with both fingers," Joanna Cone said. Dr. Jesse Cone, who had traveled here from Syracuse with his wife and other relatives, said the rowdy behavior fueled by alcohol consumption was downright frightening. "I was thinking of buying season tickets and bringing my sons, but I can't expose them to this", the physician, who grew up in Pavilion, said.

 

Lisa McCall, a Rochester resident, said she and her husband, Joe, were also leaving early because one of the people they had traveled with was in no shape to sit through the final quarter. "It's unfortunate, but we're forced to leave. Our friend, well, she's had too much," McCall said.

 

By day's end, police said 25 individuals had been arrested in and around the Orchard Park stadium on charges ranging from disorderly conduct to DWI.

 

http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/433759.html

 

25. 25 out of 70,000 were cited for various offenses. That'll be 0.035% Three hundredths of one percent. Noted at the end of an article by a Buffalo News hack because his editor told him he had to mention it. I am appalled you're right this has gotten out of control.

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Well, I'd say BC because it seems like more people from this area end up there, but the "I have to stand up no matter what" line of thought has BU written all over it.

 

No BC is correct, not BU. I never advocated that line either, read carefully. Actually I specifically stated that I do not stand the entire time at the game, and I never have.

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Those are two entirely different situations. You're impeding some else's enjoyment (and *view*) by electing to be on your feet the whole time. The folks with the seat directly behind you have no choice in the matter. They're directly affected because of your actions.

 

The dude sitting the whole time? He's not hurting anyone. It may *annoy* you, but that's your own problem. He's not doing anything irresponsible or inconsiderate. Quite the opposite, actually. You can simply choose to ignore the guy sitting down, the people behind you can't simply choose to ignore your ass in their faces.

 

I think it just comes down to consideration. Again, if you jump up after a big play or you're on your feet screaming on a big 3rd down? Good! Just please remember that by not sitting your ass down after the fact, you're going to cause the people behind you to stand up, and the people behind them, and so on and so forth. At the same time, everyone should be tolerant of a normal level of excitement at an NFL game.

 

Man... it's not the fact that some are inconsiderate that I find annoying, it's that people are actually defending it.

 

Again, not defending that kind of behaviour. In fact, you are right. Standing all game does impede my enjoyment. You know what else "impedes my enjoyment" at the games? Fat people. Way too may overweight and obese people at Bills games. That is impeding my enjoyment. When one is sitting next to me, their wide ass doesn't give me enough room to be comfortable in my paid-for $70 seat, dammit. When a group of them is walking shoulder to shoulder down the concourse, like a fleet of ocean liners, I have to dart to the side and hug the wall just to avoid getting trampled by them. That impedes my enjoyment. When one is sitting a few rows down from me and bends over whilst also wearing tight shorts and a smaller shirt, I throw up a little in my mouth. That impedes my enjoyment as well. So I guess the solution is to ban fatties. I'm all for it.

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Again, not defending that kind of behaviour. In fact, you are right. Standing all game does impede my enjoyment. You know what else "impedes my enjoyment" at the games? Fat people. Way too may overweight and obese people at Bills games. That is impeding my enjoyment. When one is sitting next to me, their wide ass doesn't give me enough room to be comfortable in my paid-for $70 seat, dammit. When a group of them is walking shoulder to shoulder down the concourse, like a fleet of ocean liners, I have to dart to the side and hug the wall just to avoid getting trampled by them. That impedes my enjoyment. When one is sitting a few rows down from me and bends over whilst also wearing tight shorts and a smaller shirt, I throw up a little in my mouth. That impedes my enjoyment as well. So I guess the solution is to ban fatties. I'm all for it.

 

Oh, I know what you're thinking: "But Mr. U, fat people can't help that they're fat, its glandular. Stander-uppers can help it, all they have to do is park their butts in their seats for most of the game."

 

Ah, but I disagree. I don't think that fat is gland-fat. I think its infrequently-mentioned cousin: lazy-fat. I think those obese folk, who impede my enjoyment ever so, can also help it. Don't eat red meat or donuts. Get in the pool or on a treadmill. When you reach my pre-decided target weight, the gates of RWS will swing open for you. Until then, stay away! You're impeding my enjoyment!

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And all of you complainers, even the wise, old ones, believe that every fan that attends any given Bills game reads/cares about the conduct policy? Not even close; and that's exactly the reason why we have the guys and gals in the bright ugly windbreakers stationed all throughout RWS. You can spit in any direction from your seat and hit two or three of them.

 

Unfortunatly, that's 100% correct. If everyone cared about the rules of conduct and whatnot, we wouldn't have threads like this every few months.

 

Unless you are absolutely completely sheltered and naive, you know that football games, and the world in general, are filled with alcoholics and just plain mean and inconsiderate folk. I am not and have never defended their behaviour. I'm just of the opinion that those of you complaining the loudest are just as bad, maybe worse. I suppose you don't even know it. Their are tools available to you at the stadium - ushers, law enforcement - if you witness someone breaking the conduct policy. On the other hand, if you are just so appalled at some of the behaviour you witness at a Bills game that you get pissing mad and your pretty little eyes start to burn, get over yourself. Remember that people from all walks of life come and support this team, and they all have different ideas of what "fun" is.

 

It's not about being sheltered or naive at all. Quite the opposite. I know exactly what games are like and I know what to expect going in. There's a 50/50 chance that I'll have to deal with some jerk-off spilling beer and standing on his seat. There's a 50/50 chance that I'll step in puke or stojan-water while trying to hit the bathroom during the 4th quarter. I'll probably also be bumped into by someone having trouble walking as well.

 

I go into games knowing that's probably what is going to happen. I try not to let it get to me and usually chalk it up as someone else just having too much of a good time. I then simply try to enjoy the game, put down a few beers, and enjoy the company of friends. I don't get to go very often as I live down South so I try to make the best of it when I do get to go.

 

To date, I've honestly never felt threatened. If it got to that point, I'd have no problem calling an usher or law enforcement over and having someone booted out. I'm not about to end someone's afternoon because they broke rule 3©, but I'll certainly do so if some d-bag were to try and pick a drunken fight.

 

Now, at the end of the day, it does bother me that I'm the one having to "deal with" the points above due to someone else's behavior. I do as much as I can to not hinder anyone else's enjoyment, it would be nice to expect the same from fellow football fans... thus the irritation.

 

All of that said? I'm usually the overly nice dude helping the drunk stranger back to his seat.

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Again, not defending that kind of behaviour. In fact, you are right. Standing all game does impede my enjoyment. You know what else "impedes my enjoyment" at the games? Fat people. Way too may overweight and obese people at Bills games. That is impeding my enjoyment. When one is sitting next to me, their wide ass doesn't give me enough room to be comfortable in my paid-for $70 seat, dammit. When a group of them is walking shoulder to shoulder down the concourse, like a fleet of ocean liners, I have to dart to the side and hug the wall just to avoid getting trampled by them. That impedes my enjoyment. When one is sitting a few rows down from me and bends over whilst also wearing tight shorts and a smaller shirt, I throw up a little in my mouth. That impedes my enjoyment as well. So I guess the solution is to ban fatties. I'm all for it.

 

:thumbdown:<_<

 

I believe we've just found a common ground. That's a cause I can get behind. Edit.. you seem to make more sense in that you take more of an "it is what it is" approach. That message you quoted wasn't in reply to you.

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I saw a group of guys(4 in one row and 3 in the row directly in front of them) in the upper deck around the 30 yard line stand for the entire first half and a lot of the 2nd half.

 

Also, more so than guys, I saw numerous "20 something girls" absolutely bombed, both outside the stadium before the game and inside the stadium during the game.

 

I enjoy standing. And the drinking age is 21 so who cares if there are numerous "20 somethings" drinking?

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Sorry but if you looked around the whole stadium, most everyone was standing for the entire first half and then some. Our section was standing and cheering loudly until the middle-end of the 3rd quarter.

Sorry, but I did look around the entire upper deck(Bills side) as these folks stood and except on 3rd downs when on defense or when the Bills had a big play, they were sitting down.

 

There is more to the stadium than the lower level endzone sections. <_<

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