John from Riverside Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 I am actually expecting it.....regardless of what has been said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Surprised, no. Pleased, YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 I wouldn't be surprised at all. They simply say "Travis isn't 100% yet, so Willis is a go." But if that's the case, they probably shouldn't say anything until gametime. Keep the Ravens guessing given that they both have different styles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 A friend of mine strained his arch once. Said it wasn't right for over 6 months. It's a painful, slow-healing thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Word yesterday is that Travis was limping. If that's still the case today, and I doubt it would go away this fast, Willis should start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 As someone who has suffered that injury in both feet, I can tell you it isn't something to take lightly. There is no way to play through it, as it feels like someone is driving a railroad spike into your arch everytime you put weight on it. The chance for reinjury is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 If I heard right I think Travis had Plantar Faciitis. Which is a very painful injury I know from experience. With proper stretching techniques it could go away in a few weeks or if it's bad anywhere from 6 months or longer. If you develop bone spurs surgery could be an option. Although they say the best method for treatment is to let it heal on it's own. Playing rb when I was younger I know the pain travis is probably in right now. So unless travis and this coaching staff are really stupid I fully expect willis to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Does this whole situation remind anyone of the RJ/Flutie thing a few years back, when RJ injured his rib cartilage? Flutie kept getting the start because RJ "wasn't 100% healed." Meanwhile, Flutie just kept winning, and I think most of us secretly hoped RJ would stay 99.5% healthy for a few more weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 21, 2004 Author Share Posted October 21, 2004 If I heard right I think Travis had Plantar Faciitis. Which is a very painful injury I know from experience. With proper stretching techniques it could go away in a few weeks or if it's bad anywhere from 6 months or longer. If you develop bone spurs surgery could be an option. Although they say the best method for treatment is to let it heal on it's own. Playing rb when I was younger I know the pain travis is probably in right now. So unless travis and this coaching staff are really stupid I fully expect willis to start. 79633[/snapback] The thing is Travis is probably begging to get back onto the field.... Lets hope that smarter heads prevail...and that Willis keeps up his "stop asking the question....Travis Henry is the starter for this team and I am just filling in when I go for over 100 yards" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack D. Ripper Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 I'd like to see Willis get the start. I know that Miami is a bad team but I have to say I was VERY impressed with the kid last week. I loved that stiff arm he gave Edwards (BTW Edwards is a big Safety) he just tossed him like a rag doll. I know he is not 100% but he I love what he showed us. Do it a few weeks in a row and I might even admit TD was right to have drafted him. He doesn't look like a step down from an injured Travis Henry. This will be a good test for our O-line this week. This is a winnable game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 I am actually expecting it.....regardless of what has been said 79568[/snapback] I think I read an article somewhere stating that WM will start again cuz TH isn't ready yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Who knows? Perhaps they will surprise the Ravens and the viewing audience by handing the ball to a fullback... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I won't be surprised if Travis not ready to go because of injury, but given that MM and Willis himself have said Travis is the #1 RB, if will be surprised if Willis starts as an optional decision. If Travis is healthy, the Bills strike me as having so much more to gain from starting him and playing him and also a lot to lose by starting Willis over Travis if the choice is optional, I see them starting Travis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fla Bills Fan Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I'd like to see Willis get the start. I know that Miami is a bad team but I have to say I was VERY impressed with the kid last week. I loved that stiff arm he gave Edwards (BTW Edwards is a big Safety) he just tossed him like a rag doll. I know he is not 100% but he I love what he showed us. Do it a few weeks in a row and I might even admit TD was right to have drafted him. He doesn't look like a step down from an injured Travis Henry. This will be a good test for our O-line this week. This is a winnable game. 79707[/snapback] Miami has a good D. I would like to see Willis up against a great D like the Ravens have. If he plays as well as he did last week, does Henry ever start again for Buffalo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I know that Miami is a bad team 79707[/snapback] Why does everyone keep saying this? WM wasn't playing their offense! Miami still has a decent offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 On ESPN around midnight, quoted Henry will be starting sunday vs the ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 If TH doesn't have 50 yards by halftime, he needs to be pulled. He's worried about his job now and not winning any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 50 yards by halftime on the ravens? that is high expectations against a VERY STRONG defense that plays run first agressively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 This will be the perfect game to use both running backs often. Start Travis and spell him with Willis frequently, constantly trying to keep the Ravens off balance. This is the second great defense we play in a row, we need to do something to keep the Ravens off Bledsoe and open some holes for the RB's. The best way to do that is not let them get used to going after the same guy over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garranimal Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 If TH doesn't have 50 yards by halftime, he needs to be pulled. He's worried about his job now and not winning any more. 80187[/snapback] Uh, according to the play-by-play on NFL.com, Willis had 32 yards rushing by half time......should he have been pulled? Also, interestingly, the average per running play for both teams was 4.4 ypc. I guess we should have kept sammy morris because he must also be a potential best RB in the NFL. See how stats don't tell much of a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Uh, according to the play-by-play on NFL.com, Willis had 32 yards rushing by half time......should he have been pulled? Also, interestingly, the average per running play for both teams was 4.4 ypc. I guess we should have kept sammy morris because he must also be a potential best RB in the NFL. See how stats don't tell much of a story. 80288[/snapback] Here's something interesting...Travis Henry had four games to prove he could break tackles, block blitzing linebackers, catch passes and get rushing first downs. He didn't. It took Willis one game to prove he is the he could do all those things very well. I know it sounds crazy but I want the best players on the field and that's WM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garranimal Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Here's something interesting...Travis Henry had four games to prove he could break tackles, block blitzing linebackers, catch passes and get rushing first downs. He didn't. It took Willis one game to prove he is the he could do all those things very well. I know it sounds crazy but I want the best players on the field and that's WM. 80332[/snapback] yes, that has appeared to be your opinion since before Willis played, so there is no surprise that it is now as well. Apparently the coaching staff does not agree. And as is all too often pointed out on this board, we aren't coaches, we aren't assistant coaches....we are just opinions and if our opinions were always right, i suppose we would be coaches. You can spew venom towards TH all you want, but he has been the bright spot for this bills offense for the last two years and has earned the right lose his job by evaluation of the coaches. The two backs should be used together IMO, but travis remains the starter for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 It took Willis one game to prove he is the he could do all those things very well. 'Ceptin' I subscribe to the theory "Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, and three times is a trend." On the other hand, he needs to be in there three times to see if it's a trend. I'd be curious to see how TH responds to sitting by himself last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Travis will start. The plan is to run Travis against the vaunted Ravens' D, and when he has trouble running up the middle on Ray Lewis, we bring in WM, whose outside speed and strength would be an advantage against the... Wait a minute! Willis will start, and when he has pulled 9 into the box, we throw over the LB's to Evans and Moulds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 yes, that has appeared to be your opinion since before Willis played, so there is no surprise that it is now as well. Apparently the coaching staff does not agree. And as is all too often pointed out on this board, we aren't coaches, we aren't assistant coaches....we are just opinions and if our opinions were always right, i suppose we would be coaches. You can spew venom towards TH all you want, but he has been the bright spot for this bills offense for the last two years and has earned the right lose his job by evaluation of the coaches. The two backs should be used together IMO, but travis remains the starter for now. 80349[/snapback] Spewing venum? Travis has hurt us more than help us, I'm sorry if the truth hurts. TH has been a very good player for the Bills in the past. But his performances have been nowhere near what WM did against the Dolphins. I just hope TH doesn't make a game costing mistake before WM gets put in the game for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowdog69 Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Uh, according to the play-by-play on NFL.com, Willis had 32 yards rushing by half time......should he have been pulled? Also, interestingly, the average per running play for both teams was 4.4 ypc. I guess we should have kept sammy morris because he must also be a potential best RB in the NFL. See how stats don't tell much of a story. 80288[/snapback] That is a good point....but remember that our defence and the miami dolphins defence is a little different. Ours is over rated, and they have the worst offence in the NFL, but still manage to be in almost every game cuz their D is so strong. On a side note....good job by the O line last week, i don't even think Jason Taylor had a sack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garranimal Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 That is a good point....but remember that our defence and the miami dolphins defence is a little different. Ours is over rated, and they have the worst offence in the NFL, but still manage to be in almost every game cuz their D is so strong. On a side note....good job by the O line last week, i don't even think Jason Taylor had a sack 80437[/snapback] Yes, but again. Take away the defensive score and the bills are playing from behind. 32 yards on 9 carries for the first half is 3.55 ypc. Now, if the bills are behind in the second half, the RB sees the ball half as much and never gets a rythm. That has been bills football to this point. Additionally, in that case (no D score) the innability to score from inside the 5 would have been monumental. The fact that WM did not find the endzone from inside the 5 is overlooked because of the ultimate outcome. Had the bills lost, it would have stuck out the same way Travis' no touchdown (touchdown) did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bufpow Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Hey shadow do you think it is just a coincidence that only 1 sack was given up when Henry was on the bench? It sure helps when your RB besides running can # 1 BLOCK and #2 knows which play the rest of the team is running. Henry has been a major part of the sack total since he has been starting. Our Offense has been offensive every since Thurman left. Bills fans should take the 1billsfan lead and get a clue!! Henry should stay on the bench! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Uh, according to the play-by-play on NFL.com, Willis had 32 yards rushing by half time......should he have been pulled? Also, interestingly, the average per running play for both teams was 4.4 ypc. I guess we should have kept sammy morris because he must also be a potential best RB in the NFL. See how stats don't tell much of a story. 80288[/snapback] I think it depends on where the yards are gotten...... If it is not much yardage but for first downs or scores...then Travis Henry is being effective.....and should remain in the game...... But if he isn't getting the tough yards (like he hasn't been doing) slipping on his way to the hole (like he has been doing) running the wrong way (which he has been doing) and getting allowing Bledsoe to get creamed over and over again in pass protection then they have to make the switch..... I heard he wasn't moving very well in practice when it came to lateral movement and pass protection....if that is true then he needs to get the hook....EARLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I thought Willis was named the starter for this Sunday? Travis is still not 100% ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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