BuffaloBilliever Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I'm going with the 52 man roster, but feel free for a starting group only. Coach - Marv Levy QB - Jim Kelly, Frank Reich, AVP HB - Thurman Thomas, OJ Simpson, Cookie Gilchrist FB - Sam Gash WR - Andre Reed, Eric Moulds, Lee Evans, Elbert Dubenion, Glen Bass (loved the guy) TE - Jay Reimersma, Pete Metzlaars. O-Line - The Electric Company (who wouldn't?) and Ruben Brown. DE - Bruce Smith, Phil Hansen, White Sherman, and Ben Williams NT/DT - Tom Sestak, Freddy Smerlas LB - Shane Conlan, the Biscuit, Daryl Talley, Bryce Paup, Lucious Sanford. CB - Nate Odomes, Steve Freeman, Mario Clark, Butch Byrd S - Tony Greene, Mark Kelso, Kurt Schulz, George Saimes. P - Brian Moorman K - Steve Christie I'm bored, any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abbott Rd Joe Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I'm going with the 52 man roster, but feel free for a starting group only. Coach - Marv Levy QB - Jim Kelly, Frank Reich, AVP HB - Thurman Thomas, OJ Simpson, Cookie Gilchrist FB - Sam Gash WR - Andre Reed, Eric Moulds, Lee Evans, Elbert Dubenion, Glen Bass (loved the guy) TE - Jay Reimersma, Pete Metzlaars. O-Line - The Electric Company (who wouldn't?) and Ruben Brown. DE - Bruce Smith, Phil Hansen, White Sherman, and Ben Williams NT/DT - Tom Sestak, Freddy Smerlas LB - Shane Conlan, the Biscuit, Daryl Talley, Bryce Paup, Lucious Sanford. CB - Nate Odomes, Steve Freeman, Mario Clark, Butch Byrd S - Tony Greene, Mark Kelso, Kurt Schulz, George Saimes. P - Brian Moorman K - Steve Christie I'm bored, any thoughts? 866269[/snapback] No Jerry Butler, Hull & Wolford, Mike Stratton, Henry Jones, Billy Shaw, Haslett, Tasker?? I'd question - Kelso (Henry Jones) & Schulz (SS - Maybe Leonard Smith) Current Bills...I might take Clements over Odomes who had a pretty short career here. Especially if Nate stays. Schobel is #2 career sacks. I believe Steve Freeman was a Safety, not a Corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 QB- Jim Kelly, Joe Ferguson, Jack Kemp. HB- O.J. Simpson, Thurman Thomas, Joe Cribbs. FB- Jim Braxton WR- Andre Reed, Jerry Butler, Ahmad Rashad, J.D. Hill, Eric Moulds OL- Kent Hull, Howard Ballard, Joe Delameilure (sp), Wil Wolford, Reggie McKenzie TE- Pete Metzelaars, DE- Bruce Smith, Phil Hansen, Aaron Schobel, Leon Seals DT- Fred Smerlas, Jeff Wright, Tom Sestak (know he was great but was too small to remember him) LB- Jim Haslett, Cornelius Bennett, Daryl Talley, CB- Nate Odomes, Burch Byrd, Derrick Burroughs, Robert James S- Tony Greene, Jeff Nixon, Leonard Smith, Bill Simpson. P-Brian Moorman PK- Pete Gogalak, Steve Christie, John Leypoldt. HC- Lou Saban, Chuck Knox, Marv Levy. Forgot many that are probably better but this is my fav's off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 DE - Bruce Smith, Phil Hansen, White Sherman, and Ben Williams 866269[/snapback] White Sherman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I'd question - Kelso (Henry Jones) & Schulz (SS - Maybe Leonard Smith) I believe Steve Freeman was a Safety, not a Corner. 866288[/snapback] Never liked ole Schulzy. The way this board can rip on Coy, they should see footage of Kurt playing. Always seemed to make a big hit when someone already had the ball carrier wrapped up, but could never make a solo tackle. Just last night watched the comeback game (tivo) and man that dude was whiffing all over the place!! Someone else mentioned, but I would also replace Gash with Braxton. And while if I was building a team I would have Reich as the backup, I think Fergy was the better QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 White Sherman 866393[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 For each position, I ordered them based on who I thought was the best player I saw at that position. That said, I don't remember seeing anyone before the early 80s teams of Ferguson, Butler, etc. So, any player with an asterisk is one that I know is worth putting on this list, though I never saw them play. Coach - Marv Levy QB - Jim Kelly, Jack Kemp*, Joe Ferguson, Frank Reich HB - Thurman Thomas, OJ Simpson*, Cookie Gilchrist*, Joe Cribbs FB - Sam Gash, Jamie Mueller WR - Andre Reed, Jerry Butler, Frank Lewis, James Lofton, Eric Moulds, Don Beebe TE - Jay Riemersma, Pete Metzelaars OL - Kent Hull, Jim Ritcher, Will Wolford, Reggie McKenzie DE - Bruce Smith, Phil Hansen NT/DT - Fred Smerlas, Jeff Wright LB - Shane Conlan, Cornelius Bennett, Daryl Talley, Jim Haslett, Bryce Paup CB - Nate Odomes, Steve Freeman, Antoine Winfield S - Mark Kelso, Henry Jones P - Chris Mohr, Brian Moorman K - Steve Christie, Scott Norwood ST - Steve Tasker, Steve Tasker, Steve Tasker Items worth mentioning in no particular order: Sam Cowart was going to be a stud until he hurt his achilles I don't know why Riemersma didn't last longer - GREAT receiving TE, in my opinion Kent Hull had to be the best C of the early 90s Guys like Lofton, Paup, & Gash should be on this list, even though they made a name for themselves elsewhere Is Tasker on the Wall of Fame? He should be by now....maybe the NFL HoF?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 QB: Jim Kelly - Joe Ferguson RB: Thurman Thomas - Cookie Cilchirst FB: Jim Braxton - Sam Gash WR: Andre Reed - Elbert Dubenion - Bob Chandler - Jerry Butler TE: Pete Metzelaars - Paul Seymour C: Kent Hull - Will Grant G: Billy Shaw - Joe D. - Jim Ritcher T: Will Wolford - Joe Devlin - Howard Ballard DE: Bruce Smith - Ron McDole - Aaron Schobel DT: Tom Sestak - Pat Williams - Ted Washington LB: There are too many to pick from: Sam Cowart, Shane Nelson, Eugene Marve, Mike Stratton, Shane Conlan, Darryl Talley, Cornelius Bennett, London Fletcher, Jim Hasslett, Isiah Robertson, my all time favorite: Lucious Sandford edit to add Bryce Paup, Chris Spielman....to be continued CB: Nate Odoms - Robert James - Butch Byrd S - Henry Jones - Tony Greene K: Scott Norwood - Steve Christie P: Brian Moorman - Marv Bateman R: Steve Tasker - Mario Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Just thought of Mark Brammer at TE, liked him better than Jay. And as noted above, Lucious could lay out some licks in da day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 You guys are forgetting the 60's, we have Billy Shaw in the HoF and several on the all-time AFL team!! My picks in order, by positon: QB- Jim Kelly, Joe Ferguson, Jack Kemp. HB- Thurman Thomas, O.J. Simpson, Cookie Gilchrist FB- Jim Braxton WR- Andre Reed, Jerry Butler, Elbert Dubenion, Eric Moulds C- Kent Hull G- Joe Delameillure, Billy Shaw, Jim Richter T - Will Wolford, Stu Barber, Howard Ballard TE- Pete Metzelaars, Ernie Warlick DE- Bruce Smith, Phil Hansen, Ron McDole, Aaron Schobel DT- Tom Sestak, Fred Smerlas, Ted Washington OLB- Cornelius Bennett, Daryl Talley, Mike Stratton ILB - Chris Spielman, Jim Haslett, Shane Conlon, Harry Jacobs CB- Butch Byrd, Robert James, Nate Odomes S- George Saimes, Tony Greene, Henry Jones P-Brian Moorman, Paul McGuire PK- Steve Christie, Pete Gogalak HC- Marv Levy, Lou Saban Many on the honorable mention list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 TE - Jay Reimersma, Pete Metzlaars. 866269[/snapback] Jay Riemersma was a poor blocker, and a "possession" TE with bad hands. Pete Metz was better than him on the worst day of his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I'm going with the 52 man roster, but feel free for a starting group only. Coach - Marv Levy QB - Jim Kelly, Frank Reich, AVP HB - Thurman Thomas, OJ Simpson, Cookie Gilchrist FB - Sam Gash WR - Andre Reed, Eric Moulds, Lee Evans, Elbert Dubenion, Glen Bass (loved the guy) TE - Jay Reimersma, Pete Metzlaars. O-Line - The Electric Company (who wouldn't?) and Ruben Brown. DE - Bruce Smith, Phil Hansen, White Sherman, and Ben Williams NT/DT - Tom Sestak, Freddy Smerlas LB - Shane Conlan, the Biscuit, Daryl Talley, Bryce Paup, Lucious Sanford. CB - Nate Odomes, Steve Freeman, Mario Clark, Butch Byrd S - Tony Greene, Mark Kelso, Kurt Schulz, George Saimes. P - Brian Moorman K - Steve Christie I'm bored, any thoughts? 866269[/snapback] Frank Reich out...I'd go Kemp, Ferguson, LaMonica as backups to Kelly the starter Halfback, OJ first, Thurman second, Wray Carlton third Fullback Cookie Gilchrist, Jim Braxton, Sam Gash TE...Pete Metzlaars, Ernie Warlick DE...Bruce Smith, Tom Day, Phil Hansen DT, Ted Washington, Fred Smerlas, Pat Williams O-Line..Billy Shaw (hall of famer!) De Lamellieure, McKenzie, Ballard, Peters (I know..too early to tell) Reuben Brown LB Shane Conlan, Darryl Talley, Mike Stratton, London Fletcher, Bryce Paup, Jim Haslett CB. Robert James, Butch Byrd, Nate Odoms, Nate Clements, Booker Edgerson S. George Sames, Tony Greene, Jeff Nixon, Kurt Schultz and the much maligned Mark Kelso P. Brian Moorman K. Steve Christy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeseburger in Paradise Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 For each position, I ordered them based on who I thought was the best player I saw at that position. That said, I don't remember seeing anyone before the early 80s teams of Ferguson, Butler, etc. So, any player with an asterisk is one that I know is worth putting on this list, though I never saw them play. Coach - Marv Levy QB - Jim Kelly, Jack Kemp*, Joe Ferguson, Frank Reich HB - Thurman Thomas, OJ Simpson*, Cookie Gilchrist*, Joe Cribbs FB - Sam Gash, Jamie Mueller WR - Andre Reed, Jerry Butler, Frank Lewis, James Lofton, Eric Moulds, Don Beebe TE - Jay Riemersma, Pete Metzelaars OL - Kent Hull, Jim Ritcher, Will Wolford, Reggie McKenzie DE - Bruce Smith, Phil Hansen NT/DT - Fred Smerlas, Jeff Wright LB - Shane Conlan, Cornelius Bennett, Daryl Talley, Jim Haslett, Bryce Paup CB - Nate Odomes, Steve Freeman, Antoine Winfield S - Mark Kelso, Henry Jones P - Chris Mohr, Brian Moorman K - Steve Christie, Scott Norwood ST - Steve Tasker, Steve Tasker, Steve Tasker Items worth mentioning in no particular order: Sam Cowart was going to be a stud until he hurt his achilles I don't know why Riemersma didn't last longer - GREAT receiving TE, in my opinion Kent Hull had to be the best C of the early 90s Guys like Lofton, Paup, & Gash should be on this list, even though they made a name for themselves elsewhere Is Tasker on the Wall of Fame? He should be by now....maybe the NFL HoF?? 866464[/snapback] I think Paup was a member of the Bills when he won the NFL Defensive Player of the Year award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Antoine Winfield deserves some consideration. He was a solid CB both in terms of playing the run and the pass and started for 5 years beginning as a rookie. PS I still would have kept Winfield over Clements! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 AAAAARGH....how could I forget Tom Sestak and Kent Hull....mea culpa mea culpa, mea maxima culpa...Jerry Butler, Andre Reed, JD Hill, Elbert Dubenion, Bobby Chandler, and a host of other wide receivers come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I think Paup was a member of the Bills when he won the NFL Defensive Player of the Year award. 866627[/snapback] affirmative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBilliever Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 I agree that Metz-man was better than Riemersma, but growing up in the Riemersma era made me put him first. Kept off of the O-line, and I was going to put Tasker under ST but I spaced out when I finished the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 WR is very tough. It's too bad Rashad was only here for one season. He went on to have a great career. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/RashAh00.htm WR(career as Bills only) - Reed, Moulds, Chandler, Butler & Dubenion(I've only seen highlights of him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I think Paup was a member of the Bills when he won the NFL Defensive Player of the Year award. 866627[/snapback] Yes, he was....but he started his career in Green Bay and really played well for them for a few years before coming to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Based on how many defensive players that people list from the so called "glory years" one would think that D would have been dominant. If that D was dominant the Bills would have a few SB titles under their belts. I think that a few people have romanticized that team a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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