crazyDingo Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 no. not for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risin Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Who cares where he is at? I'd take him over ANY young QB in the game right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Bill Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 When he takes us down the field on a game winning drive, I think his confidence and the teams confidence in him will soar. I think his performance will take-off from there. Top 15, I don't know... but I think he's progressing nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 I say no. But he's better than most people give him credit for. 792043[/snapback] I would argue that right now he is in the top half of QBs this season because of the low turnovers and decent % completion. Whether he is solid or not should be clear by midseason. Personally, I am enjoying his play. Everytime he is going to pass, I expect him to complete the pass compared to last season when I used to cringe. Anyway, FWIW here are two stats and where he stands: #12 in passer rating: http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/PRAT/2006/regular # 22 in passing yards: http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/PYDS/2006/regular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Solid big league Not even solid average, after only four games. Reason to be excited and optimistic? Yes. But the dust-bin of the league is full of qb's who played well the first four games of a season, only to melt down later. And we are only 2-2 after all. 792063[/snapback] Whee. Rah Rah sis-boom-bah. I love how the lot of you are waiting for the shoe to drop. The kid's looked good. What else do you want? Joe Montana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 The QB situation in the league as a whole is just awful right now. top 15 means nothing. There are about 2 great QBs,6 good ones...and the rest are average(JP) to mediocre to horrible. 792321[/snapback] There was an interesting article on ESPN last week....The majority of the coaches want their QB to be game managers rather than exceptional players...Hence the watered down QB situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 I like JP and I think he is going to be a solid QB for the Bills for many seasons. But I think we need to give him a season to really get comfortable and prove to the league that he is an upper echelon NFL QB. Right now, the Bills are still game planning with the idea that he's a young QB that needs to be protected, much like the Steelers did with Rothlisberger his rookie year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted October 2, 2006 Author Share Posted October 2, 2006 I like JP and I think he is going to be a solid QB for the Bills for many seasons. But I think we need to give him a season to really get comfortable and prove to the league that he is an upper echelon NFL QB. Right now, the Bills are still game planning with the idea that he's a young QB that needs to be protected, much like the Steelers did with Rothlisberger his rookie year. 792701[/snapback] Just give Willis the ball and give Jp opportunities when he's ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndZoneCrew Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Who's JP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bflojohn Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Just for sheer stats, he just passed Carson Palmer for #6 in the AFC with a 90.6 rating. By the way, Tom Brady is 8th right now. JPL has thrown 1 INT in a 4 game streach, and his decision making is lightyears better than last year at this same juncture. Relax boys and girls, he is coming along QUITE NICELY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 I have to admit Losman looked good today. 792337[/snapback] How much did it hurt to say this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 How much did it hurt to say this? 793114[/snapback] It never hurts to say the truth.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 How much did it hurt to say this? 793114[/snapback] Gosh Ramius, it almost sounds like you think I might have something against Losman. I'm absolutely astounded that you, or anyone else, could possibly form that impression. Have I ever written anything against him? Okay, maybe just once. Or twice. Or maybe it was a hundred times. After a while I kind of lost track. But don't be fooled by the fact that I've probably written more against Losman than any two posters combined. Deep down, it, um, (clears throat and tries to keep a straight face) never really mattered to me who the Bills' starting quarterback was, just so long as he was good. What? You don't believe me? Is there anything I could say which would persuade you otherwise? Didn't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDRupp Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 I don't know if Losman is the 5th best QB, or the 15th best, or the 25th best. Of the four games they've played this year, I'd take Brady over Losman, and that's it. I'd MUCH rather have JP than Culpepper, Pennington, or Johnson. With CP and BJ in particular, I don't know how you can get excited about that b.s. offense they run. I tried supporting the 4-yard dumpoff last year with Holcomb and it was atrocious to watch. It's smart when it's the QB's release option, but it sucks when it's the entire offense. For the most part this year, Losman has been on. And when he's on, with his cannon, it is great to watch. 792062[/snapback] If I had to win a game today with this Bills team now, these are the guys I'd pick before Losman. Don't forget to win a game today with this team, in no certain order: McNabb Pennington Manning Manning Bulger Brunell Brees Palmer Brady Farve Leftwhich Delhomme Toss ups versus JP: Vick -I hate him as a passing QB but with his running and this Oline in 1 game? Carr -Good player on a bad team (good WR's though) Rivers -Not great but solid and playing is about what JP is getting though he does have LT That puts him around 13 to 15 so in my book on 10/2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Whee. Rah Rah sis-boom-bah. I love how the lot of you are waiting for the shoe to drop. The kid's looked good. What else do you want? Joe Montana? 792649[/snapback] Nah, Joe was overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Nah, Joe was overrated. 793482[/snapback] And he was a bust at the end of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Nah, Joe was overrated. 793482[/snapback] More than 100% of his passing yards came after the catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 The class of 2004 looks like it might be something special (too soon to tell). But looking at those ratings (and watching games), you see Rivers, Manning, and JP in the top half of the league or so and with a bullet in their third year in the league. And Big Ben, of course, has stunk, but he's been sick, and he did win the SB last year. (I know some of you don't think much of Roethlisberger, but I think he's a real gamer. The QB of these 4 whom I feel the least confident about in terms of future stardom is Eli. But I think they'll all be pretty good, at least, for quite a while.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 More than 100% of his passing yards came after the catch. 793484[/snapback] I'm afraid CTM made a YAC joke back on page 1, so you're a little late to the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockpile Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 I have to admit Losman looked good today. 792337[/snapback] Wait until he has a bad game. The tide will turn against him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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