The Jokeman Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 i'll ask again... Is grady Jackson still available, and if so, has he got anything left in the tank? 630902[/snapback] He's available but still rank a guy like Russell Davis ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 And people thought I was nuts when I was begging them to lose that game. Now look. Three spots = No Brick, No Hawk, No Davis and No Mario. Might as well drop into the 20s. 630913[/snapback] I'd say one of those has to fall to us. If not, somebody that another team is going to really want will. Sure, I'd be happier if we were holding a 5 or even a 7 card, but we're not in a bad position draft-wise. And I'd probably take Ngata if he's there. I'm betting Kollar could make something of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Could not agree more...but remember guys like you and me who were begging to see the Bills lose out to help themselves in the future are not REAL fans remember? 630916[/snapback] Plus we had a chicken sh-- head coach that was hoping to save his job by starting a journeyman QB, rather than seeing what we had in Losman. That was the same coach who quit on us... once his job was secure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Plus we had a chicken sh-- head coach that was hoping to save his job by starting a journeyman QB, rather than seeing what we had in Losman. That was the same coach who quit on us... once his job was secure. 630922[/snapback] Wait, don't you know JP is DONE after a 8 game career already?? WE NEED Cutler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailog80 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Wait, don't you know JP is DONE after a 8 game career already?? WE NEED Cutler! 630925[/snapback] No we need to exploit Minnesota's need for Cutler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 And people thought I was nuts when I was begging them to lose that game. Now look. Three spots = No Brick, No Hawk, No Davis and No Mario. Might as well drop into the 20s. 630913[/snapback] Me too. I think someone called me a loser for hoping that the Bills lost that game to improve their draft stock and not save Mularkeys job. For whoever called me a loser. F**K YOU!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 No we need to exploit Minnesota's need for Cutler. 630927[/snapback] I like the way you think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 If we trade, I think it's a draft day deal, where we wait to see if by some miracle Ferguson or Mario fall to us. If they are not there, then we move down. And if they ARE there, then some team drafting after us may be more willing to really sell the farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 If we trade, I think it's a draft day deal, where we wait to see if by some miracle Ferguson or Mario fall to us. If they are not there, then we move down. And if they ARE there, then some team drafting after us may be more willing to really sell the farm. 630930[/snapback] I hear ya, but honestly...i see ABSOLUTELY NO way any of these guys fall to us...I hope I am dead wrong though Here is my Draft Day outlook already: 4 beers, Bills draft Ngata, I sigh, I take a nap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Leaving good old marv in a bind, don'tcha think? He's got exactly ONE servicable OT on the roster. And now he's only got ONE DT worth a damn. Excellent foresight there. 630886[/snapback] I hear ya man. But hey, be patient. Free Agency just started! Yeah ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED !!!! 630935[/snapback] We have been doomed for the last 5 f**kin years. Why stop now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makbeer Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Ngata will make some people eat their words, imho. The guy is dominating, an incredible athlete for his size - anyone that says otherwise hasn't seen any Oregon games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Ngata will make some people eat their words, imho. The guy is dominating, an incredible athlete for his size - anyone that says otherwise hasn't seen any Oregon games. 630961[/snapback] I saw the Oregon bowl game against Oklahoma and didn't see Ngata do much of anything but get pushed around and taken out of the play quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Ngata will make some people eat their words, imho. The guy is dominating, an incredible athlete for his size - anyone that says otherwise hasn't seen any Oregon games. 630961[/snapback] Honestly, I don't know how good he is. He may be a stud. I do know one thing though.....there wasn't one team (and I know that doesn't mean individuals) in whole Pac-10 that could play a lick of defense. I sure hope he is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 There are still some decent DTs available in FA... Grady Jackson is still out there, as is Brenston Buckner, Russell Davis, Lional Dalton (my personal favorite), Brandon Noble and Travis Hall, all capable starters. Also, this draft is overflowing with DTs. I have very little doubt in my mind the Bills will snag a good one, I'd be more worried about our complete lack of effort towards the O-Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 There are still some decent DTs available in FA... Grady Jackson is still out there, as is Brenston Buckner, Russell Davis, Lional Dalton (my personal favorite), Brandon Noble and Travis Hall, all capable starters. Also, this draft is overflowing with DTs. I have very little doubt in my mind the Bills will snag a good one, I'd be more worried about our complete lack of effort towards the O-Line. 630973[/snapback] Buckner is back with Carolina and still might retire. The Packers dumped Jackson in favor of Pickett. None of the others are an upgrade over what we had in Sam Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Buckner is back with Carolina and still might retire. The Packers dumped Jackson in favor of Pickett. None of the others are an upgrade over what we had in Sam Adams. 630977[/snapback] I think Triplett is our improvement over Adams, what we need is an improvement over Tim Anderson (so...a cardboard cut-out perhaps?). And I'd take Grady Jackson ANY day of the week...at this point, beggers cant be choosers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 There are still some decent DTs available in FA... Grady Jackson is still out there, as is Brenston Buckner, Russell Davis, Lional Dalton (my personal favorite), Brandon Noble and Travis Hall, all capable starters. Also, this draft is overflowing with DTs. I have very little doubt in my mind the Bills will snag a good one, I'd be more worried about our complete lack of effort towards the O-Line. 630973[/snapback] The O-Line neglect is disgusting. But I digress. I'm guessing, but aren't Jackson, Buckner and Davis getting old? The thing that sucks about guys like Pickett is that they could have been signed, and they could have been here for at least 5 years. Most of the guys out there now are only stop-gap players. We have cap room. And yet, we are letting young, proven, players slide away from us. It's sickening, IMO. And this is on both sides of the lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fla Bills Fan Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I hear ya, but honestly...i see ABSOLUTELY NO way any of these guys fall to us...I hope I am dead wrong though Here is my Draft Day outlook already: 4 beers, Bills draft Ngata, I sigh, I take a nap. 630932[/snapback] C'mon you should be able to get down at least 6 beers before the Bills select. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Ray Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Buckner is back with Carolina and still might retire. The Packers dumped Jackson in favor of Pickett. None of the others are an upgrade over what we had in Sam Adams. 630977[/snapback] Marv Levy on the phone: "Hello Sam, we were only kidding." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I think Triplett is our improvement over Adams, what we need is an improvement over Tim Anderson (so...a cardboard cut-out perhaps?). And I'd take Grady Jackson ANY day of the week...at this point, beggers cant be choosers. 630980[/snapback] IMO, Triplett will be eaten alive unless he has a stay-at-home DT partner to clog the middle. I'm pissed that we could lose to the Pack, unless they really panicked and overpaid. Jackson isn't as good, so it'd be a net loss if we ended up with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 The O-Line neglect is disgusting. But I digress. I'm guessing, but aren't Jackson, Buckner and Davis getting old? The thing that sucks about guys like Pickett is that they could have been signed, and they could have been here for at least 5 years. Most of the guys out there now are only stop-gap players. We have cap room. And yet, we are letting young, proven, players slide away from us. It's sickening, IMO. And this is on both sides of the ball. 630981[/snapback] They are old, but what would you rather have...old players who can still contribute? Or young players who get run over every play? This board got pissed when Ted Washington signed elsewhere, so why not more love for a guy like Grady Jackson who is about 4 years younger and basically the same player? In fact, Jackson had more sacks, more tackles and more playing time than Washington had last year. The Bills need a wide body to play next to Trips...well, he's the widest body we can possibly find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I think Triplett is our improvement over Adams, what we need is an improvement over Tim Anderson (so...a cardboard cut-out perhaps?). And I'd take Grady Jackson ANY day of the week...at this point, beggers cant be choosers. 630980[/snapback] Triplett would have been a compliment to Adams, as they are two different types of tackles. I expected more out of Anderson since he was a 3rd round pick. I share your sentiment about Beggars can't be choosers, but that is the problem. Beggars don't win football games. I don't want someone elses table scraps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Why not trade for Denver's first two picks? It's not like we're going to get anything we need at 8. But at least we beat the Bengals in a meaningless game. 630900[/snapback] Ah, the old Bills draft rule of thumb... There are (buffalo's pick # - 1) number of cant miss draft studs, and we will always miss out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makbeer Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I know DT isn't a "sexy" draft position, but imho adding that sort of talent at a young age to our trenches is the way to go. So much better than finding old rental players like some of you are suggesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I can just see Ralph sitting next to Marv with the "Wizard" tip calculator that he borrowed from Mortie Sienfeld when trying to make offers to FAs out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 They are old, but what would you rather have...old players who can still contribute? Or young players who get run over every play? This board got pissed when Ted Washington signed elsewhere, so why not more love for a guy like Grady Jackson who is about 4 years younger and basically the same player? In fact, Jackson had more sacks, more tackles and more playing time than Washington had last year. The Bills need a wide body to play next to Trips...well, he's the widest body we can possibly find. 630991[/snapback] Honestly, with the path we've taken so far......we are a 5-11 team that has taken another step backwards so far. So, I'd rather have a youth movement at this point and not take any more Sam Adam's types. But seriously, even in that type of mold, we really can't even do that now. There are really no reall solid, younger guys left. It's all scrap heap stuff, that even if they all had career years, AND JP blossomed, we end up 8-8 at best. What a waste we've been so far in Free Agency. Seriously, it's just about undefendable at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 The one thing we can't do is hold a gun to somebody's head and make them sign here. I'd like to think Marv and co. are going to do everything within reason to sign good players for this team. But if GB turns out to have offered Pickett a desperation contract (like the one the Vikes plopped down for Hutch) there's not a whole lot you can do. When you throw down that kind of cash you inevitably hurt yourself somewhere else. I'd rather see justifiable bargain moves, getting a lot of guys who will fit what they're trying to do here. I really wouldn't mind, given the way things look right now, trading down, taking Bunckley and netting another 1st day pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Funny how Romeo has brought them instant respect. 630910[/snapback] Yep. Browns | McGinest agrees to three-year deal Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:20:41 -0800 Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Cleveland Browns have agreed to terms with free agent LB Willie McGinest (Patriots) on a three-year, $12 million deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Yep.Browns | McGinest agrees to three-year deal Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:20:41 -0800 Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Cleveland Browns have agreed to terms with free agent LB Willie McGinest (Patriots) on a three-year, $12 million deal. 631012[/snapback] Having Romeo there helps...but so does being 30 million dollars under the salary cap. Pretty easy to look smart when you can throw 4 million dollar a year contracts at players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Never fear! I heard Robert Royal is bulking up and is going to start at DT for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I don't think that Pickett is that good a player. The Rams defense was horrible, and their castoffs are getting silly money out there....Archuleta 30 million? The Bills still have Tim Anderson and Ron Edwards, correct? And Triplett? Maybe they'll get AJ Hawk to plug the middle anyway. Marv ain't stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Forgot My Last Username Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 GUYS I don't think I believe this report. The reporter breaking this story is none other than the pencil necked geek, John Clayton. He was wrong about MOULDS. Maybe he has it in for the Bills or something. YOU GOTTA BILLEVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I don't think that Pickett is that good a player. The Rams defense was horrible, and their castoffs are getting silly money out there....Archuleta 30 million? The Bills still have Tim Anderson and Ron Edwards, correct? And Triplett? Maybe they'll get AJ Hawk to plug the middle anyway. Marv ain't stupid. 631022[/snapback] Ron Edwards is a UFA and Tim Anderson would get run over by an old lady walking across the street. The Bills other starting DT will come through FA or the Draft, its not someone we already have on roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmanbfan Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I can just see Ralph sitting next to Marv with the "Wizard" tip calculator that he borrowed from Mortie Sienfeld when trying to make offers to FAs out there. 630999[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 The one thing we can't do is hold a gun to somebody's head and make them sign I really wouldn't mind, given the way things look right now, trading down, taking Bunckley and netting another 1st day pick. 631004[/snapback] I was thinking the same thing. Bunkley could be a good fit. One problem with trading down. We better not go to far. St. Louis has lost Pickett and Lewis and may also have their eye on Bunkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Having Romeo there helps...but so does being 30 million dollars under the salary cap. Pretty easy to look smart when you can throw 4 million dollar a year contracts at players. 631015[/snapback] $30 million's a lot, but so is $14-$15 million (or $20 million if EM is cut). I don't think Marv should throw $$$ at every "name" FA, but Pickett seemed like a perfect fit for what the Bills are about now. Gotta say I'm disappointed for the first time this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Oh no, we didn't sign Ryan Pickett!!! What are we gonna do??? Fold the team now!!! We didn't sign a guy who is former 1st round underachiever and played on one of the worst defenses in the league. I think it is a blessing in disguise. We need offensive lineman in FA. That's where our money would be better spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 $30 million's a lot, but so is $14-$15 million (or $20 million if EM is cut). I don't think Marv should throw $$$ at every "name" FA, but Pickett seemed like a perfect fit for what the Bills are about now. Gotta say I'm disappointed for the first time this week. 631028[/snapback] Eh, I know that the Packers were gunning after him hard...methinks he used the Bills visit to force them to up their offer. Hell, it seemed like he was more interested in going back to St. Louis or going to the Packers than he ever was coming to Buffalo. And the Packers have almost as much cash to spend in FA than the Brownies do...so I'm not surprised at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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