Cripes Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I don't really care about the teams finances or Mr. Wilson's. My point is that Willis won't be in training camp. He will feel he is underpaid because he is the best back in the NFL. How are you going to feel with Shaud Williams as our RB at the begining of next season? 521066[/snapback] Well, the reality is that McGahee is very underpaid for his value to this team, now that the risk of his knee injury has been put to rest. Just under one-third of his $3 million a year contract in 2003 was broken out into incentives (five-year, $15.5 million deal included about $7 million in total base salary and $4.5 million bonus). I'm sure Donohoe and Wilson expected they'd be faced with a renegotiation at this point anyway. First-round premier backs (and don't try to argue he isn't - the Bills certainly won't debate that point with Rosenhaus) are regularly getting $10 million bonuses and $8-10 million a year deals. It doesn't seem difficult to see the Bills and McGahee agreeing to those kind of terms next year, even if McGahee does at first demand a Portis-like deal. The Bills are going to have to pay, and there's no reason we should be upset with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 [!@#$. 520571[/snapback] Thanks for joing my ignore list...it's getting pretty crouded, but I think there's still some room toward the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Yes, and watch the USC game for an illustration of how to hit a hole,... 520910[/snapback] There has to be holes to hit! His 3 yards/carry are because he has to drag several opposition playerswith him for 5 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alg Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 The histrionics on this board are reaching epic proportions. We are now finding reasons to hate/rant/rage in the most innocuous of places... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doza Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Self proclaimed best back in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfife22 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 any guy who has come back from his knee injury cares about football....he will be a bill and a bill for a long time so i guess u are just gonna have to get use to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Yawn. Someone wake me when Stinkman finds his point. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Did any of you people criticizing Willis watch the game? There was a shot of him sitting on the bench, extremely pissed off and stunned. Would it be better if Willis just went around the locker room screaming at people? What good would that dude? It's funny because I heard people criticizing Willis for getting fired up after a run against San Diego when they were getting killed. I just don't understand why people are constantly knocking the best players on the team. Yes, we as fans are so frustrated with this team. But imagine working 9 months a year (money aside) for 16 games when you feel that you are a playoff team and it just blowing up like this. It's probably a little frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 "That's my highlight of the day,'' said McGahee, referring to his season total for rushing. ``It's out of my hands. If I called the plays, I'd have 60 carries" I guess he would make a better OC than Tom Clements... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbills17 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Well, the reality is that McGahee is very underpaid for his value to this team, now that the risk of his knee injury has been put to rest. Just under one-third of his $3 million a year contract in 2003 was broken out into incentives (five-year, $15.5 million deal included about $7 million in total base salary and $4.5 million bonus). I'm sure Donohoe and Wilson expected they'd be faced with a renegotiation at this point anyway. First-round premier backs (and don't try to argue he isn't - the Bills certainly won't debate that point with Rosenhaus) are regularly getting $10 million bonuses and $8-10 million a year deals. It doesn't seem difficult to see the Bills and McGahee agreeing to those kind of terms next year, even if McGahee does at first demand a Portis-like deal. The Bills are going to have to pay, and there's no reason we should be upset with that. 521156[/snapback] WRONG. We got a discount because we took the risk, and gave him the money up front, and paid him to rehabilitate for a year. Now that he's healthy we have to pay him top dollar? No we don't, he's obligated to play out his term. FYI, two things. 1. He's hugely overrated by people here. He's great at tough yards, but that's 3rd down back material. He does not have the speed or evasiveness to be 'permier'. He also does not have the cutback needed to be in that calibre either. 2. He will say goodbye to Buffalo the instant he can, and sign in a big market. We'll see what happens and what everyone's opinions are of him then. He has no loyalty at all, and all year it's been about his agenda. Willis cares about Willis and that's it. I'm shocked with the praise he gets here. Come on people, we just finished watching an all-pro in Thurman Thomas for how long? The guy had skills, class, loyalty that Willis will never have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Self proclaimed best back in the league. 521416[/snapback] Duly noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 He has the ninth most rushing yards in the NFL. He is the fastest Bills RB to get to 2,000 in his career. He is playing behind a piss poor o-line. Gee, it is no wonder some of you guys have a crusade against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripes Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 1. He's hugely overrated by people here. He's great at tough yards, but that's 3rd down back material. He does not have the speed or evasiveness to be 'permier'. He also does not have the cutback needed to be in that calibre either. 2. He will say goodbye to Buffalo the instant he can, and sign in a big market. We'll see what happens and what everyone's opinions are of him then. He has no loyalty at all, and all year it's been about his agenda. Willis cares about Willis and that's it. I'm shocked with the praise he gets here. Come on people, we just finished watching an all-pro in Thurman Thomas for how long? The guy had skills, class, loyalty that Willis will never have. 521528[/snapback] Whether or not you think McGahee is a selfish, worthless chump who doesn't deserve the money, ithat's obviously an opinion not shared by the Bills. I would think a vast majority of player personnel directors would side with that, as well, so he is premier, in the opinion of people who count. Will he leave at his first chance? Not as our franchise player he won't. And I've heard no hint that he's unhappy here at all. You want loyalty -- he's given it to you for the last 44 games. He didn't gripe about sitting out 2003 when he thought he was ready. He credits Gregg Williams for not putting him out there. The only time he spoke out was his expectation to be the starter in 2004 (that cad!) and was a good soldier during our delusionary 0-4 romp in Travis Henry's buttery fingers. And while I've got no desire to knock Thurman, other threads have pointed out what a crass, selfish guy he could be at times. Who can forget the mother-copulating insult he threw at a 10-year-old once. But I don't really CARE if a guy's a craphead if he can help my team. And that's what Thurman and Willis both have in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I still don't see where there was any reference to willis smiling am i missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 All Willis has done is get over 1000 yards behind the worst OL in the NFL. Ya, lets get rid of him. God forbid if he had a good line, he might rush for over 2000 yards and 30 TD's. We wouldn't want that now would we ! Dont sweat the small stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 i thought he said something to the effect i got my 1,000 but i wish we woulda won.dosnt sound bad to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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