Mark Vader Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Thanks Thailog80 for the inspiration. Oakland 0-2, and a road trip to Philly next week Do the Raiders scare anyone on this board. We will beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Thanks Thailog80 for the inspiration. Oakland 0-2, and a road trip to Philly next week Do the Raiders scare anyone on this board. We will beat them. 445783[/snapback] As Sterling Sharpe would say Randy Moss made this thread possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Kerry Collins is a Drew Bledsoe clone. The Raiders will never go anywhere as long as Collins is the QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 19, 2005 Author Share Posted September 19, 2005 GuessWhozBack21 Posted Today, 10:46 PM As Sterling Sharpe would say Randy Moss made this thread possible OMG What a blowhard Sterling Sharpe was tonight for Moss. I sorely missed Mike Patrick, Joe Theismann, & Paul Maguire tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I actually thought Sharpe was way better than Theisman. He was fairly insightful, gave good technical descriptions of what was going on and didn't annoy the hell out me. He tried to be funny and wasn't but Theisman has been doing that forever. Every announcer or media member gets down on their knees for superstars like Moss. Part of the job description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYGPopgun10 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Theisman sucks. But Sharpe sounded like an idiot at times. Oakland just always seems to fall short. Moss could be awesome and it wouldn't even matter. I also think Jordan could do well there. But they took some more dumb penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazykat Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Somebody lock up the drugs and alcohol after the Raider game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 OMG What a blowhard Sterling Sharpe was tonight for Moss. I sorely missed Mike Patrick, Joe Theismann, & Paul Maguire tonight. 445790[/snapback] Except for Joe Theisman, I usually don't get worked up about any announcers, BUT.....what the HELL was ESPN thinking. Sharpe sounded like he was given about 10 seconds notice, that he was going to be the analyst on the game. Did they consider giving him a tryout using a previously played game. This guy added nothing to the game. HOLY FRIGGIN' LACK OF INSIGHT BATMAN!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB2004 Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Thanks Thailog80 for the inspiration. Oakland 0-2, and a road trip to Philly next week Do the Raiders scare anyone on this board. We will beat them. 445783[/snapback] Randy Moss is the best wide reciever in the NFL, so no matter what team he plays for he's going to make them a better offensive club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Thanks Thailog80 for the inspiration. Oakland 0-2, and a road trip to Philly next week Do the Raiders scare anyone on this board. We will beat them. 445783[/snapback] Not only do they scare me, I think we won't win unless things really turn around. They open the season with the Patriots, Chiefs, and Eagles. So what that their 0-2, or about to be 0-3. We would be too if we played that schedule. They stop the run, and can score points. We can't stop the run, and can't score points. The icing of it all being that it’s at a place we hardly ever play well at. I'm not saying we can't get it done, but we need to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I actually thought Sharpe was way better than Theisman. He was fairly insightful, gave good technical descriptions of what was going on and didn't annoy the hell out me. He tried to be funny and wasn't but Theisman has been doing that forever. Every announcer or media member gets down on their knees for superstars like Moss. Part of the job description. 445809[/snapback] One thing I think you'll notice about analysts is that they will suck up in a huge way to players that played their particular position, and rightfully so I suppose because they will see things in their game that others may not see. So not surprising that a guy like Sharpe goes apeshit for a guy like Moss. You see it all the time with Theisman and Simms and Aikman over quarterbacks, you see it with Dierdorf and Randy Cross over linemen, etc. Frankly, I like Sharpe. I think he's pretty insightful and sometimes is funny and is not afraid to voice his opinion. Sure he goes overboard but they all do, and he hasn't done a ton of games. It's a very hard job to be a good football analyst. As evidenced by the fact that for the most part, hardly anyone here really likes hardly any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Randy Moss is the best wide reciever in the NFL, so no matter what team he plays for he's going to make them a better offensive club. 448801[/snapback] I wonder if there has ever been a time when the two best players at a position were the two biggest idiots, too. They may be the two very best players and very biggest idiots at any position in the entire league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 21, 2005 Author Share Posted September 21, 2005 KzooMike Posted Today, 10:54 PM Not only do they scare me, I think we won't win unless things really turn around. They open the season with the Patriots, Chiefs, and Eagles. So what that their 0-2, or about to be 0-3. We would be too if we played that schedule. They stop the run, and can score points. We can't stop the run, and can't score points. The icing of it all being that it’s at a place we hardly ever play well at. I'm not saying we can't get it done, but we need to improve. Yes the Bills need to improve, but I feel that the Bills have that capability too improve, whereas I don't think the Raiders can. As far as the Raiders schedule being a very tough start, thats just too bad. If the Raiders want to be one of the elite teams, then they will have to beat the teams like they have already faced. They brought Randy Moss in, thinking it would help solve their problems, and so far it has'nt. Then again had they addressed the defense during the offseason, they might be doing better. Look at Kansas City. They had needs on defense, and during the offseason they addressed those problems. They started their season against the Jets & Raiders, 2 games that they knew would not be easy, and lo and behold they are 2-0. Right now the Chiefs concern me a lot more than the Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I wonder if there has ever been a time when the two best players at a position were the two biggest idiots, too. Deion Sanders and Sam Madison? Nahhhh, Darrel Green was better than Madison and Ray Buchanan was a bigger idiot. j/k Ray, I loved watching you play ball. Frankly, I like Sharpe. I think he's pretty insightful and sometimes is funny and is not afraid to voice his opinion. Sure he goes overboard but they all do, and he hasn't done a ton of games. I didn't turn it on 'til the midle of the game and it took me a few minutes to realize MPatrick wasn't trying to work around the Stan and Ollie show. When I did realize it and listened to Sharpe for a few minutes I decided I really liked him and hope they decide to keep him on. His honesty, lack of polish and insistence on actually watching the game were a fresh change of pace from the poorly conceived extemperaneous horseshlt we've become all-too accustomed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Yes the Bills need to improve, but I feel that the Bills have that capability too improve, whereas I don't think the Raiders can. As far as the Raiders schedule being a very tough start, thats just too bad. If the Raiders want to be one of the elite teams, then they will have to beat the teams like they have already faced. They brought Randy Moss in, thinking it would help solve their problems, and so far it has'nt. Then again had they addressed the defense during the offseason, they might be doing better. Look at Kansas City. They had needs on defense, and during the offseason they addressed those problems. They started their season against the Jets & Raiders, 2 games that they knew would not be easy, and lo and behold they are 2-0. Right now the Chiefs concern me a lot more than the Raiders. 448859[/snapback] I'm not giving a Oakland pity party over scheduling. I'm happy they start off with such a difficult slate of games. My point is they have looked better then Buffalo in the first two games when you factor in strength of schedule. I agree that we can improve, and we should improve. But until then the Raiders game will be very difficult, and yes the Chiefs should be even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Except for Joe Theisman, I usually don't get worked up about any announcers, BUT.....what the HELL was ESPN thinking. 448719[/snapback] I just want to know when Tivo/DTV is going to give us the feature that only allows ambient stadium noise with no announcers. Some sort of filtering tool. That would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I wonder if there has ever been a time when the two best players at a position were the two biggest idiots, too. They may be the two very best players and very biggest idiots at any position in the entire league. 448847[/snapback] I think the shame of it all is that if they'd just STFU, they'd be just the kind of player the NFL wants to promote. They stay out of trouble, and give their best on the field. They're just jerks on top of that. What a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I think the shame of it all is that if they'd just STFU, they'd be just the kind of player the NFL wants to promote. They stay out of trouble, and give their best on the field. They're just jerks on top of that. What a shame. 449051[/snapback] I know I am in the minority here, but I think the major blame goes to the media and the fans for giving a crap what they say off the field, especially TO. If the cameras weren't always all over TO when he is spewing this garbage, which is always, and the fans eating it all up, we could just watch him play and not be bombarded with the idiocy. Look at all the airtime he got from the end of the season until the beginning of this season. And what was the upshot? He played in the first game and he's playing great. He didn't hold out and McNabb throws him the ball all the time and virtually nothing has changed. All it did was get virtually everyone to hate TO even more than they did before and waste everyone's time. To me, it's the "ignore the bully" syndrome. Just don't pay attention to him because you know it's going to be stupid and worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Frankly, I like Sharpe. I think he's pretty insightful and sometimes is funny and is not afraid to voice his opinion. Sure he goes overboard but they all do, and he hasn't done a ton of games. It's a very hard job to be a good football analyst. As evidenced by the fact that for the most part, hardly anyone here really likes hardly any of them. 448845[/snapback] I agree, and I was surprised how good he was, as I hated him in the studio. He had more insightful stuff to say in one quarter than most color men have to say all game long. He wasn’t as polished as most, but that comes with experience. I’ll take content over form any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I know I am in the minority here, but I think the major blame goes to the media and the fans for giving a crap what they say off the field, especially TO. If the cameras weren't always all over TO when he is spewing this garbage, which is always, and the fans eating it all up, we could just watch him play and not be bombarded with the idiocy. Look at all the airtime he got from the end of the season until the beginning of this season. And what was the upshot? He played in the first game and he's playing great. He didn't hold out and McNabb throws him the ball all the time and virtually nothing has changed. All it did was get virtually everyone to hate TO even more than they did before and waste everyone's time. To me, it's the "ignore the bully" syndrome. Just don't pay attention to him because you know it's going to be stupid and worthless. 449133[/snapback] 'Zactly...and perfectly said. As long as people eat it, the media will cook it. Plain and simple. And disappointingly true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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