Who do we want, who do we need as our next HC and, or GM?

[jaybeezee]

8 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Either/or for me

 

No need to ditch QB and staff, just one or the other

Id prefer to trade him out of our division.  But Jets do have a stockpile of draft picks.

 

Id rather just get rid of both. Maybe promote Beane to VP, hire a GM (Not his pick) and let the new guy hire a HC, or whip McD into submission and make him quit.

[H2o]

On 11/14/2025 at 6:55 AM, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

You know what makes me nervous?

 

A WR room that's so bad you're counting on Gabe Davis to be its savior 

Yeah, me too. But if the Steelers trade you before your rookie deal is up, when they could have paired you with Metcalf for old man Rodgers, then you know something ain't quite right. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

15 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

Either/or for me

 

No need to ditch QB and staff, just one or the other

Enh, I wouldn't trust Beane and McDermott with that bounty of firsts. They absolutely suck in early rounds 

[BillsShredder83]

On 11/13/2025 at 4:36 PM, Gregg said:

 

What if the new GM wants to bring in his own HC and tells Terry he won't take the job unless he has the option to fire McDermott. 

I wouldn't want a GM that would accept a job without picking his guys 🤷‍♂️

[BillsShredder83]

On 11/13/2025 at 5:13 PM, jaybeezee said:

Gruden is from the same tree as Reid! Not saying he is on Reids level, but old school guy with knowledge about the new school offenses. I do watch his breakdowns on YOUTUBE and find it very insightful 

No disrespect to anyone personally, but am a bit shocked to see such a well informed fanbase/message board, clamoring for Gruden.

 

He hasn't won s*** in 24 years, and has been outta the league like what, 18-20 of those?

 

A guy is good at doing YouTube breakdowns so hed be a good head coach?

 

I can read a John Grisham book, should I go write a #1 NYT best seller? Lol

[Billsfanatic8989]

13 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

I wouldn't want a GM that would accept a job without picking his guys 🤷‍♂️

This. 

 

If you hire a new GM, it should be his decision 100% on which coaches (HC, coordinators etc) stay. A new GM would not have a close relationship with McDermott and likely more willing to make a change. 

 

I don't think Beane should get to fire McDermott and hire another HC. They are both equally responsible. 

[BillsShredder83]

On 11/13/2025 at 8:07 PM, stuvian said:

Kiffin was the Raiders coach in the glorious JaMarcus Russell era

That was a historically dysfunctional ownership/FO at the time (Al had to be the worst owner in NFL at the time). Kiffin was like 34? 

 

Hes brushed shoulders with nothing but the best mentors since then. He bounced around between jobs at his choice since then, but has been successful at every stop and majorly over achieved with Ole Miss. 

 

Hes quit drinking, grown up a bunch and its shown. He'd be offensive minded HC, which is a requirement for me, and is a trend setter among modern offenses. Brings attitude and swag to a team severely lacking.

 

He'd love to coach Josh. And would help draw major interest from top coordinators. Im confident hed bust his ass to bring in a serious DC to compliment his offensive skill set.

 

Adding a legendary recruiter could only help in free agency. If I was a young FA that's a cool young HC id want to play for too. 

 

There are probably equally qualified candidates but hed be at the top of my list. You think Josh wouldn't be licking his chops to play under a guy like that?! 

Edited 14 hours ago by BillsShredder83

[BillsShredder83]

On 11/13/2025 at 8:46 PM, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

As I've said elsewhere there's no delusion like bills fan delusion. This team will NEVER pursue a guy like this. Instead it'll be a Palmer type guy. Bargain bin. Undersized. Cheap. #1 reason we need a change.

 

 

There is a hugeeeeee area between lunatic, sh** teammate Pickens, and the BS half measure WRs weve brought in.

 

I am NOT against bringing in a semi problematic/highly talented dude, IF the problems are off the field.

 

I cant get on board bringing in a awful teammate and awful locker room guy. Hes post CTE Antonio Brown, without having the brain damage yet lol 

[BillsShredder83]

On 11/14/2025 at 11:21 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't think that is a guarantee. It is possible, certainly. I'm not ruling it out at all. But you can't guarantee that.

I can:

A. Just human nature in 99% of cases. 

B. If they weren't tuning the staff out, and the team still respected and believed in them. Then they wouldn't have played as spineless and disinterested as they have in more than half their games this year.... even in wins.

 

Even if they think they respect and believe in McD, and this is how they respond, then I have no interest in this staff.

[BillsShredder83]

On 11/14/2025 at 11:21 AM, Nihilarian said:

What don't you get that it wasn't just one player! Look at the injury list and all those injuries and they matter. Seven or eight starters our or injured and think I missed Michael Hoechet that had a huge impact in the game he played. It all adds up to a devastating causation. A big reason as to why a 2-7 team beat Buffalo 30-13. 

Bro I hope McD lobbies for his job, like you are for his. 

 

If you require a perfect atmosphere to get your job done, youre not good at your job. 

 

Were not going to get a season with:

-no injuries

-the nfl rolls out a 31 team season, a Chief-less season

-a draft class with no busts

-a weaker division than weve had for 9 years

-a #1 WR looking for league minimum 

 

Every team thats ever won it has overcome adversity in critical moments. 

 

What youre looking for is some kind of wild windstorm of good luck to get over the hump. Josh's clock is ticking, im not willing to wait on that. 

 

Im feeling greedy and its not just 'one before I die anymore'. It is 'one before Josh retires'. I didnt account for this effect on my psychology when we landed Josh, but winning one without/after Josh would not be nearly as fulfilling for me. 

[Nihilarian]

I get it that some Bills fans are frustrated that this regime has not gotten to a Super Bowl yet.

 

Currently the 2025 Buffalo Bills are 6-3 and sitting in a very precarious position and facing some tough games. Some of the teams they face have a winning record. Right now the Buffalo offense is stumbling and the defense 

 

Bucs 6-3 leading their division

Houston 4-5 with the #1 defense in the league

Steelers 5-4 leading their division

Bengals 3-6 QB Joe Burrow should be back starting

Patriots 9-3 leading the division

Cleveland 2-7

Eagles 7-2 leading their division

NY Jets 2-8 

 

Buffalo will be lucky to make the playoffs this year. SO

[GoBills808]

20 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

I get it that some Bills fans are frustrated that this regime has not gotten to a Super Bowl yet.

 

Currently the 2025 Buffalo Bills are 6-3 and sitting in a very precarious position and facing some tough games. Some of the teams they face have a winning record. Right now the Buffalo offense is stumbling and the defense 

 

Bucs 6-3 leading their division

Houston 4-5 with the #1 defense in the league

Steelers 5-4 leading their division

Bengals 3-6 QB Joe Burrow should be back starting

Patriots 9-3 leading the division

Cleveland 2-7

Eagles 7-2 leading their division

NY Jets 2-8 

 

Buffalo will be lucky to make the playoffs this year. SO

Missing the playoffs is 100% legitimate cause to fire everyone

[jcamm1966]

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, BillsShredder83 said:

I can:

A. Just human nature in 99% of cases. 

B. If they weren't tuning the staff out, and the team still respected and believed in them. Then they wouldn't have played as spineless and disinterested as they have in more than half their games this year.... even in wins.

 

Even if they think they respect and believe in McD, and this is how they respond, then I have no interest in this staff.

 

You can't. You can think it. And you might be right. I am not even saying I disagree with you. But you can't guarantee it.

[major]

If we aren’t in the afc championship game or the Super Bowl this year, I think Pegula has to go with someone new. Financially speaking, we are going into a new stadium. You need a spark to get people excited. Running back something that clearly isn’t working wouldn’t be good for business. McD reminds me of Tony Dungy at Tampa bay. Great guys, but…

[notpolian]

2 minutes ago, major said:

If we aren’t in the afc championship game or the Super Bowl this year, I think Pegula has to go with someone new. Financially speaking, we are going into a new stadium. You need a spark to get people excited. Running back something that clearly isn’t working wouldn’t be good for business. McD reminds me of Tony Dungy at Tampa bay. Great guys, but…

I wish I agreed with you but I think the new stadium is one of multiple reasons Pegula won't change from McBeane.

 

I see the Dungy comparison but he won a SB at Indy.  To me this is Marty Schottenheimer all over again.

[major]

9 minutes ago, notpolian said:

I wish I agreed with you but I think the new stadium is one of multiple reasons Pegula won't change from McBeane.

 

I see the Dungy comparison but he won a SB at Indy.  To me this is Marty Schottenheimer all over again.

I can see your viewpoint as well

[Shortchaz]

11 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

I wouldn't want a GM that would accept a job without picking his guys 🤷‍♂️

I’m the other way, give me a HC that chooses his GM 

[Dr.Sack]

The Bills have a ton of bad contracts and a mountain of debt carried into 2026. Come 2027 they can get crazy. Better to take some draft picks and find a WR 1 then overpay for someone on a 2nd contract.