re-sign McGovern and edwards

[nuklz2594]

the title says it all. any idea if they stay? what are we looking at for contract?

[Buffalo716]

We're probably only going to be able to keep at Max 2 of McGovern Edwards and Torrance 

 

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

Depends on how much the Bills like their depth. If they feel SVPG is ready to take over at center or someone else can take over LG, then probably not. I'm sure the Bills will extend an offer to both, not sure if they want to hit FA or stay 

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Depends on how much the Bills like their depth. If they feel SVPG is ready to take over at center or someone else can take over LG, then probably not. I'm sure the Bills will extend an offer to both, not sure if they want to hit FA or stay 

I don't even think svgp is back up right now

 

I think he's number three behind Alec Anderson

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

We're probably only going to be able to keep at Max 2 of McGovern Edwards and Torrance 

 

 

I’ve said it a few times but I think Torrence is an excellent trade candidate this offseason. He’s a young, high end OG, that someone will have cheap for a year (and obviously have to extend). The Bills can plug any of a number of guys into that spot. I think Edwards & McGovern will be roughly the cost of Torrence.

[Einstein]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

I’ve said it a few times but I think Torrence is an excellent trade candidate this offseason. He’s a young, overrated high end OG, that someone will have cheap for a year (and obviously have to extend). 

 

Agreed, but added one word.

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’ve said it a few times but I think Torrence is an excellent trade candidate this offseason. He’s a young, high end OG, that someone will have cheap for a year (and obviously have to extend). The Bills can plug any of a number of guys into that spot. I think Edwards & McGovern will be roughly the cost of Torrence.

Torrance hasn't missed a snap in 2 years 

 

I don't think they're running to the podium to trade him

[billsfan28277]

Edwards and McGovern are both gone after this year.  Too costly and starting to get up in age.  They will pay Cybo who is eligible for an extension after this season.  Anderson and SGVP will be next year's interior linemen.

[Pete]

I thought they’d re-sign McGovern and restructure this past offseason, and free up some cap space.  The fact that they did not, and our 2026 cap situation, there is a good chance he gets PAID as FA.  They must really like SVPG.  Edward’s, Torrence- we won’t keep them all, and all be paid big time.  
 

Thsys why I doubly upset that we didn’t get Josh a great WR this year, returning the whole entire OL, and backup OL, RB stacked, TE stacked, we couldn’t 29 YO Josh 1 more great WR.  Next year Bills will need LB, S, OL, CB- and WR will be the last priority once again I’m guessing

[Kirby Jackson]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Torrance hasn't missed a snap in 2 years 

 

I don't think they're running to the podium to trade him

Of course they don’t WANT to trade him. They can’t have that much tied up in the OL. Brown and Dawkins are signed and at least one of the other 2 will be. Torrence is looking at a deal north of the 5 year $100M ($63M guaranteed) that Robert Hunt signed. That cap space needs to be allocated elsewhere. The Bills have done well finding OL. Maybe they plug Anderson into that spot?

 

The hypothetical I threw out was Torrence and a 2 or 3 for Higgins? I don’t know the contract specifics but it makes sense for both sides from a football standpoint. The Bills get more balanced and the Bengals get their best OL.

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, Pete said:

I thought they’d re-sign McGovern and restructure this past offseason, and free up some cap space.  The fact that they did not, and our 2026 cap situation, there is a good chance he gets PAID as FA.  They must really like SVPG.  Edward’s, Torrence- we won’t keep them all, and all be paid big time.  
 

Thsys why I doubly upset that we didn’t get Josh a great WR this year, returning the whole entire OL, and backup OL, RB stacked, TE stacked, we couldn’t 29 YO Josh 1 more great WR.  Next year Bills will need LB, S, OL, CB- and WR will be the last priority once again I’m guessing

Considering Alec Anderson is ahead of svgp I'm pretty sure if McGovern walks Alec Anderson will get a modest deal to take over the starting job

2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Of course they don’t WANT to trade him. They can’t have that much tied up in the OL. Brown and Dawkins are signed and at least one of the other 2 will be. Torrence is looking at a deal north of the 5 year $100M ($63M guaranteed) that Robert Hunt signed. That cap space needs to be allocated elsewhere. The Bills have done well finding OL. Maybe they plug Anderson into that spot?

 

The hypothetical I threw out was Torrence and a 2 or 3 for Higgins? I don’t know the contract specifics but it makes sense for both sides from a football standpoint. The Bills get more balanced and the Bengals get their best OL.

 

I hear you tho I absolutely would not give up a second round pick with Torrance for t Higgins though 

 

I would give up Torrence and maybe a sixth

 

Considering bills would have to take on $115 million dollar deal also

 

Torrance also does not have any pro bowls or all pros so he's going to get a big contract but it should be under what the all pros are getting 

 

That hunt deal was ludicrous and stupid

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Buffalo716

[paulmm3]

16 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

We're probably only going to be able to keep at Max 2 of McGovern Edwards and Torrance 

 

 

 

McGovern and Edwards are clearly and consistently better players than O'Cyrus

[Kirby Jackson]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Considering Alec Anderson is ahead of svgp I'm pretty sure if McGovern walks Alec Anderson will get a modest deal to take over the starting job

 

I hear you tho I absolutely would not give up a second round pick with Torrance for t Higgins though 

 

I would give up Torrence and maybe a sixth

 

Considering bills would have to take on $115 million dollar deal also

 

Whatever the comp would be. It’s just an example. That’s one way for the Bills to get their number 1 WR without sacrificing their 1st. A team that starts Anderson/Higgins is better than one that starts Torrence/Coleman.
 

There are other guys that fit the mold too. That’s why I said he’s an excellent trade chip. You can’t give him $65M guaranteed while paying those others too. That cap space needs to be reallocated.

[GroteStreet]

13 minutes ago, billsfan28277 said:

Edwards and McGovern are both gone after this year.  Too costly and starting to get up in age.  They will pay Cybo who is eligible for an extension after this season.  Anderson and SGVP will be next year's interior linemen.

I agree they are both gone.  But I think the interior lineman will be Grable, SVPG, and Torrence.

[billsfan28277]

14 minutes ago, GroteStreet said:

I agree they are both gone.  But I think the interior lineman will be Grable, SVPG, and Torrence.

Maybe.  I think the team really likes Grable but isn't he still in concussion protocol and on the IR?  They also have this year's draft Lundt who they also like.  He's not on the practice squad because some would gobble him up.

[EssexBill]

52 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Of course they don’t WANT to trade him. They can’t have that much tied up in the OL. Brown and Dawkins are signed and at least one of the other 2 will be. Torrence is looking at a deal north of the 5 year $100M ($63M guaranteed) that Robert Hunt signed. That cap space needs to be allocated elsewhere. The Bills have done well finding OL. Maybe they plug Anderson into that spot?

 

The hypothetical I threw out was Torrence and a 2 or 3 for Higgins? I don’t know the contract specifics but it makes sense for both sides from a football standpoint. The Bills get more balanced and the Bengals get their best OL.

 

Agree 100%, can't pay everyone and those funds could be better spent elsewhere

[strive_for_five_guy]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

Torrance hasn't missed a snap in 2 years 

 

I don't think they're running to the podium to trade him

We need more guys that pull their groins getting out of bed.  I don’t think Torrence fits that bill.

[BigdaddyinOrlando]

Sign Torrance and McGovern and either Anderson or day two pick to replace Edward’s. 

[chris heff]

Torrance should be a Bill for his entire career for one play, the “tush push” TD last Sunday when he pulled and then carried Josh into the end zone. In fact just put him on the Wall of Fame right now.

[MiltonWaddams]

43 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

We need more guys that pull their groins getting out of bed.  I don’t think Torrence fits that bill.

Many men do that. It’s natural.