Plausible X/#1 receiver trade candidates — are there any?

[starrymessenger]

1 minute ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

I don't know? He'll be 28 next year. Any expanded role for him is purely projection. I know WR's are getting bank now, and anything is possible, but a deal that would get the Saints a 3rd Rd Comp back would be almost shocking to me based on all factors. But I guess it could happen. In 2025 the average AAV was $18.375 million for a 3rd Rd Comp pick not counting QB's in the equation. That number figures to go up next year. I just don't see Shaheed that way yet because he has not shown it yet. But maybe some team does. I do think for what the Bills need though, as an everybody eats guy, he's a perfect fit. 

The number I have seen for average annual in his next contract is 20+ if memory serves so at least this is consistent with what you say might be next years AAV for a 3rd.

[Ayjent]

On 10/14/2025 at 9:53 AM, Pete said:

I give Cook and Kromer much more credit than Brady.  And if running game is so good, why does Brady in back to back weeks get cute?  Good running games should smash 3rd and short 

Those handoffs to the motion guy are the dumbest plays they have in the playbook for short yardage or any down and distance.  You are expecting your entire side of your line to get a push, hope that the end bites inside and that all LBs and Secondary are all confused or blocked because you've got to turn that lateral momentum upfield. Any contact from the opposing team or own team is going to move the lateral movement backwards or trip up the ball carrier with no chance of getting positive yardage - it should never be called again and thrown out of the playbook.  Its the type of play that makes you want your OC fired bc IT IS THAT STUPID.

[KOKBILLS]

1 minute ago, starrymessenger said:

The number I have seen for average annual in his next contract is 20+ if memory serves so at least this is consistent with what you say might be next years AAV for a 3rd.

 

I mean... I guess it all depends on the team and the need... But just going on my gut that seems steep... For what it's worth, and just for fun, I asked Grok and Chatgpt... I got a total range of $7.5 - 14M AAV...

[Pete]

3 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

I mean... I guess it all depends on the team and the need... But just going on my gut that seems steep... For what it's worth, and just for fun, I asked Grok and Chatgpt... I got a total range of $7.5 - 14M AAV...

Shaheed has better numbers than Jameson Williams FYI.  He is an electric returner.  He only cost $1.23 million this year.  He is exactly what the Bills need.  He stresses opposing defenses when he’s lined up.  He will back up defenses, and open up the middle of the field, for Dalton and Cook to thrive.  Bills offense would have more big plays, and put up more points.  Priceless.  $20 million is what #2 WRs get these days. Shaheed might be worth it.  Even if just a one year Bill, he will help make the Bills offense great again, bringing back from funk, and helping us win a Super Bowl.  And we would get a comp draft pick.  Shaheed is win-win-win

[ChevyVanMiller]

This may already be posted somewhere in this voluminous thread, but Ryan Talbot has tossed out Calvin Ridley's name as a trade target.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/sports/nfl/bills-insider-links-buffalo-to-all-pro-wr-to-give-josh-allen-another-weapon-10910843

[Pete]

1 minute ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

This may already be posted somewhere in this voluminous thread, but Ryan Talbot has tossed out Calvin Ridley's name as a trade target.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/sports/nfl/bills-insider-links-buffalo-to-all-pro-wr-to-give-josh-allen-another-weapon-10910843

There's a long list of what Buffalo could look to improve on, but none are more important than getting another wide receiver. Over the past few years, if there's been one thing holding this team back, it's the incompetence around Josh Allen in the wide receiver room. 

Newsweek preaching to the choir

AMEN

[starrymessenger]

10 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

I mean... I guess it all depends on the team and the need... But just going on my gut that seems steep... For what it's worth, and just for fun, I asked Grok and Chatgpt... I got a total range of $7.5 - 14M AAV...

This also makes more sense to me, especially because his season ending surgery last year was for an injury considered possibly career ending. I don't know if he's the 2023 version of himself again. If he is though he does have lots to offer. 

[Pete]

3 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

This may already be posted somewhere in this voluminous thread, but Ryan Talbot has tossed out Calvin Ridley's name as a trade target.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/sports/nfl/bills-insider-links-buffalo-to-all-pro-wr-to-give-josh-allen-another-weapon-10910843

That article started like a 🦁 lion and went out like a 🐑 lamb

 

While perhaps not the perfect option, it's also fair to note that Ridley is dealing with a lot of controversy with the Titans, given where the organization stands.

 

what the heck does this mean?  lol where does the organization stand?  What’s the controversy?

[KOKBILLS]

10 minutes ago, Pete said:

Shaheed has better numbers than Jameson Williams FYI.  He is an electric returner.  He only cost $1.23 million this year.  He is exactly what the Bills need.  He stresses opposing defenses when he’s lined up.  He will back up defenses, and open up the middle of the field, for Dalton and Cook to thrive.  Bills offense would have more big plays, and put up more points.  Priceless.  $20 million is what #2 WRs get these days. Shaheed might be worth it.  Even if just a one year Bill, he will help make the Bills offense great again, bringing back from funk, and helping us win a Super Bowl.  And we would get a comp draft pick.  Shaheed is win-win-win

 

Agreed... He's been my #1 guy all along... I just think it fits like a glove...

[Pete]

1 minute ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

Agreed... He's been my #1 guy all along... I just think it fits like a glove...

Imagine Josh with Shaheed?  Wow.  He’d be a shiftier, faster John Brown. Punters will not want to kick to Shaheed

[Andrew Son]

1 minute ago, Pete said:

Imagine Josh with Shaheed?  Wow.  He’d be a shiftier, faster John Brown. Punters will not want to kick to Shaheed

I can see the off target deep balls now!

[Pete]

Just now, Andrew Son said:

I can see the off target deep balls now!

Do the names John Brown, Robert Foster mean nothing to you?  Does 98 yards ring a bell?   I’ve watched Josh’s movie- he made some incredible deep throws.
 

 Josh has the best arm in the NFL.  Take off the training wheels Brady, get us Shaheed, Beane. Chop-chop

 

once all the above is completed, Bills will have top offense again

[34-78-83]

40 minutes ago, Ayjent said:

Those handoffs to the motion guy are the dumbest plays they have in the playbook for short yardage or any down and distance.  You are expecting your entire side of your line to get a push, hope that the end bites inside and that all LBs and Secondary are all confused or blocked because you've got to turn that lateral momentum upfield. Any contact from the opposing team or own team is going to move the lateral movement backwards or trip up the ball carrier with no chance of getting positive yardage - it should never be called again and thrown out of the playbook.  Its the type of play that makes you want your OC fired bc IT IS THAT STUPID.

Jet motion running plays have been an effective part of offensive football at all levels for many, many years. That's not disputable.

 

I was upset with the attempt to give it to a tight end, who is not a typical ball handler, so I am with you there. 

 

I was also upset with not going with our QB or star RB to get 2 yards in 2 plays on a more simple run play, so I am with you there.

 

Beyond that, you are reacting to results in a tiny sample size. We've seen the Chiefs win games with the same play.

[Dillenger4]

19 minutes ago, Pete said:

Do the names John Brown, Robert Foster mean nothing to you?  Does 98 yards ring a bell?   I’ve watched Josh’s movie- he made some incredible deep throws.
 

 Josh has the best arm in the NFL.  Take off the training wheels Brady, get us Shaheed, Beane. Chop-chop

 

once all the above is completed, Bills will have top offense again

But why do you think we are getting Shaheed? Are the Saints trading him for sure? I mean, I haven't heard a peep about him being moved other than on this chat group.

I highly doubt this will happen.

 

[The Jokeman]

47 minutes ago, Pete said:

Shaheed has better numbers than Jameson Williams FYI.  He is an electric returner.  He only cost $1.23 million this year.  He is exactly what the Bills need.  He stresses opposing defenses when he’s lined up.  He will back up defenses, and open up the middle of the field, for Dalton and Cook to thrive.  Bills offense would have more big plays, and put up more points.  Priceless.  $20 million is what #2 WRs get these days. Shaheed might be worth it.  Even if just a one year Bill, he will help make the Bills offense great again, bringing back from funk, and helping us win a Super Bowl.  And we would get a comp draft pick.  Shaheed is win-win-win

Gimme Tre Tucker as he similar to Shaheed but younger and under contract for next season for less than $2 million. 

[Ayjent]

8 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said:

Jet motion running plays have been an effective part of offensive football at all levels for many, many years. That's not disputable.

 

I was upset with the attempt to give it to a tight end, who is not a typical ball handler, so I am with you there. 

 

I was also upset with not going with our QB or star RB to get 2 yards in 2 plays on a more simple run play, so I am with you there.

 

Beyond that, you are reacting to results in a tiny sample size. We've seen the Chiefs win games with the same play.

No those plays are run a little more behind the line, these Bills plays are right on the line with no margin for error on down and distance where teams are absolutely looking to get push to prevent the short yardage conversion.   A jet sweep or even the short pass from the jet motion is not what I'm taking issue with.  I'm taking issue with the particular design of the play the Bills are using that is extremely tight to the LOS where there are too many things to go wrong - they ran it with Shakir on the Left side and against the Falcons on the right - both had the same issue - the blocking had to be superb and it wasn't and there was a lot to navigate that stymied the whole benefit of a guy moving faster than everyone else near the LOS  Maybe the play would have some success if it were in a scenario where there may be more read and react calls from the D, but I just think there are too many feet and bodies to get in the way in any scenario.

[BuffaloBillyG]

36 minutes ago, Pete said:

Imagine Josh with Shaheed?  Wow.  He’d be a shiftier, faster John Brown. Punters will not want to kick to Shaheed

I mean, last year we had MVS. Same type deep ball guy. In fact, when Shaheed went down to injury last year, the Saints brought MVS in to replace him. And he made some huge plays. The reason he was a FA at the time? He was cut from the Bills to make room for Cooper and he was expendable because Josh could never hit him on any of the big plays. 

 

Shaheed is a really good player. But he's not what this offense, this QB or this OC know how to take advantage of. 

[Warriorspikes51]

Sign Lockett

Waive Moore

 

Trade for Olave

Waive Shavers (PS sign)

Promote Davis to 53

 

Olave

Shakir

Lockett

Samuel

Coleman

Davis

 

realistic? NO Beane will do nothing

 

Jerry Jeudy could be an interesting target that hasn’t been mentioned much lately

guessing he can generate a good amount of separation. Browns can give us their Safety too

Edited 9 hours ago by Warriorspikes51

[BillsFanForever19]

4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Sign Lockett

Waive Moore

 

Trade for Olave

Waive Shavers (PS sign)

Promote Davis to 53

 

Olave

Shakir

Lockett

Samuel

Coleman

Davis

 

realistic? NO Beane will do nothing

 

Jerry Jeudy could be an interesting target that hasn’t been mentioned much lately

guessing he can generate a good amount of separation. Browns can give us their Safety too

 

It's actually, in part, more realistic than what I'm used to seeing from you throughout the years. Though 3 moves aren't happening. Palmer will be down for a number of weeks, but he hasn't been placed on IR. He'll be back at some point and we aren't going to carry 7 WR's.

 

Olave is the only big fish with any sort of possibility. And our best bet if we can't get him is Shaheed. Basically, I'd be all in on making a deal with the Saints. Outside of that, you're looking at maybe a Jeudy or Meyers. Maybe.

 

Lockett... idk. He'll be turning 33, works mainly out of the Slot these days, the Seahawks cut him, and then the Titans felt he not only wasn't a starter, but barely used him. He's not Tyler Lockett anymore. If they thought he still has something and could help, I wouldn't be opposed. But I don't think he's any different than a number of guys we have now at this stage in his career and don't think he'd help much.

 

But I'm with you on trying hard to get Olave. If we can't pry him away from them, then pivot to Shaheed. And then hopefully Davis is ready soon. Have them replace Moore and Shavers on the 53 and hope that opens things up for us.

Edited 5 hours ago by BillsFanForever19

[Nihilarian]

35 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I mean, last year we had MVS. Same type deep ball guy. In fact, when Shaheed went down to injury last year, the Saints brought MVS in to replace him. And he made some huge plays. The reason he was a FA at the time? He was cut from the Bills to make room for Cooper and he was expendable because Josh could never hit him on any of the big plays. 

 

Shaheed is a really good player. But he's not what this offense, this QB or this OC know how to take advantage of. 

This exactly!

 

Some Bills fans just don't comprehend that no matter what receiver is traded for, drafted, or brought in...that this OC is not Brian Daboll (which is a good thing for the run game). However, until he shows that he can get more out of receivers on the roster that bringing in anyone else is a waste of time. 

 

Granted, Brady must be doing something right, as last year being the #2 scoring offense, and to have games like Josh Allen had against the Lions and Rams. In that game against the Lions, Ty Johnson was the leading receiver with 114 yards. In that Rams game, Shakir was the leading receiver with 106 yards, and Cooper was second with 92 yards. 

 

In my view, the current receivers on this team are good enough to beat any other team if schemed properly. Simply use Ty and Cook much more often and open up the entire passing game.